Hornady 250gr XTP and 2400 for 45colt Win 94

meanc · Post by **meanc** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:48 pm

I just got in a new batch of 250gr XTP HPs and looking for some direction as to what loads you guys have used with Alliant 2400.

The hodgdon website lists some Ruger and Contender loads only for the 45colt but Alliant doesn't, only Colt SAA type loads.

These are going to be shot from my Win94 Legacy w/ 24" barrel

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:23 pm

In Paco's article, "The .45 Colt in Lever-Action Rifles", he says he likes the 260gr/Keith cast under 22grs 2400 for well over 32000 cup. giving over 1800fps in rifles, & him saying 35,000cup is max practicle in '94s, & the bhn of a 250XTP is near 100 as opposed to around 20 for a hardcast, My guess would be 19-20grs for a SAFE load in a '94. Just my 2 cents, jd45

gary rice · Post by **gary rice** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:26 pm

i just started using 2400 again recently after many years for the 45 colt. i restarted with 17.5 grains behind a 250 grain bullet which is mild. im certain you can start from there and doctor them up as the gun will handle it. with the old 2400 i loaded much heavier but i would think that 17.5 grains would be a good place to start.

meanc wrote:I just got in a new batch of 250gr XTP HPs and looking for some direction as to what loads you guys have used with Alliant 2400.

The hodgdon website lists some Ruger and Contender loads only for the 45colt but Alliant doesn't, only Colt SAA type loads.

These are going to be shot from my Win94 Legacy w/ 24" barrel

Post by **Old Savage** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:28 pm

I will be using one again that I had tears ago. I'll be interested in what you find.

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:31 pm

OS, I'd like you to, if you will, clarify your post saying, "I will be using one that I had tears ago. I will be interested in what you find" Thanx, jd45

adirondakjack · Post by **adirondakjack** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:32 pm

18.5 of 2400, OR, better yet, 21.5 of H110, or a near max load of 4227 (I forget the dosage)

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:17 pm

adirondak jack, If you're not certain of the charge, re...4227, it might not be good to post it, until you nail it down, which I'd be interested in, BTW, & thanx, jd45

bj94 · Post by **bj94** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:56 pm

92 and 94 Leverguns in .45Colt usually do well with Ruger-only loads. I always thought a Ruger-only load with WW296 and 250 XTP's would be a great load for deer.

BTW, DO NOT do this with 73 and earlier levergun designs.

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:40 am

O S, please disregard my asking for a clarification of your post.......I figured it out. My apologies, & Happy New Year to All! jd45

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:57 am

If you look @ Alliant's on-line daata for Silhouette loads, you'll find loads listed for 44Mag with a 250 grain Sierra JFP. I might drop a couple of grains and work up from there. In a '92 or '94 Winchester action I wouldn't fear experimenting some.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:20 am

meanc,

How about checking the Hornady manuals for data? After all, they made the bullets.

Hornady 5TH Edition: (The latest one I have)

45 Colt, Ruger and T/C Only;

250gr HP-XTP

2400; Starting load 19.7 @ 1150 / Max load 20.8 @ 1250
AA 5744; Starting load 20.7 @ 1150 / Max Load 22.4 @ 1250
H 4227; Starting load 20.5 @ 1150 / Max Load 25.7 @ 1400
IMR 4227; Starting Load 20.2 @ 1150 / Max Load 24.2 @ 1300

Test gun was a T/C Contender with a 10" barrel.

I've used the max IMR 4227 load and it's a thumper.

Personally I liked the IMR 4227 load although I don't have any problems with the 2400 loads. For the record, Hornady used ALLIANT 2400 in their tests, not Hercules.

Joe

meanc · Post by **meanc** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:59 pm

Thanks for the responses.

I loaded up 50 with 20gr of 2400 last night, I don't know what the velocity wil be as I didn't bring my chrony, but I'll let you know what the accuracy is like.

J Miller,

Don't have a Hornady manual, as I've just been using HardCast in the 45colt and using the load data given to me by Oregon Trail.

Thanks for the info though.

BTW, did it by any chance list the pressure levels associated with these loads? I'm pretty certain my Ruger Blackhawk and Win 94 won't have any problems, but would like to compare it to H110 loads.

Happy New Year Everyone, I'm going shooting

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:25 pm

MeanC,

There is no specific mention of pressure. Here is what it says in the text:

Page 751, Hornady 5TH Edition, Copyrite 2000;
The following data is to be used only in the T/C or the Ruger Blackhawk. While the pressures of the loading data in the previous section are safe and within limits appropriate to earlier 45 Colt revolvers or their replicas, the data below absolutely should not be used in these firearms. These loads were developed in and intended for Ruger And Thompson / Center handguns. It should prove safe when used in the Marlin 1894S or the Winchester Model 94 rifles produced in 45 Colt, but always start load development low and work up.

Joe

meanc · Post by **meanc** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:12 pm

Thanks J.

Hornady 250gr XTP and 2400 for 45colt Win 94

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