Funny story

cutter · Post by **cutter** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:37 pm

After spending this morning reloading shotshells, among other chores, I was finally able to fire them.
I loaded ten shells with blackpowder, and just for the heck of it, one with smokeless.
The smokeless shell was loaded in a hurry , don't do that.

Well, to make a long story short, The smokless shell recieved very little of a crimp and almost no pack. These are brass shells by the way.

So, when I fired it there was a slight pop followed by the shot trickling out of the barrel into a neat pile on the ground.

Then everyone laughed at me.

I was reminded of the 'booger incedent' in high school...

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:12 pm

That would have been funny to see.

Where did you get the brass cases from and how do they work in your 97's

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:28 pm

Oops!

By the way, do you load a brass shell on the same equipment as a plastic or paper hull? I am not that familiar with shotgun shell reloading...

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:34 pm

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:37 pm

Now that is funny.

omgb · Post by **omgb** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:44 pm

One really can't reload brass hulls on the same machine one loads plastic. You can hit a few of the wtations, but not all.

Brass hulls take 11 GA wads. You need three of them with BP: an over powder wad, a cushion wad and a cap card or shot card. Pressure is unimportant so compression is not an issue. Most BP hulls use large pistol primers so that station will not work on a shotshell reloader. You can use the shot dispenser but usually not the powder hopper and you don't crimp so again, kinda usless to use the shotshell machine. Hand tools are all one needs.

cutter · Post by **cutter** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:13 pm

Midway for the hulls, Magtech I think. I had to make everything else from scratch. I have a die set, but no press as yet, they are larger in diameter than what I have now, doh.

Since I wasn't able to crimp them, they fed poorly through my '97. They would hang up chambering. This was with the 'Norchester', didn't want to blow up a Winny...

I used a H&R to test them with , because of the feeding problem.
They patterened rather well, considering no shot cup was used.

Now just to up the charge to something reasonable. Once I find a used press with the correct thread size, these will be just fine, and look cool too.

Ya gotta' love that black powder!

omgb · Post by **omgb** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:06 am

There's a company that makes a die to slightly crimp the mouth of the case to eliminate that, of course, I can't recall the CO.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:18 am

I got a box of Mag Tech brass 12 ga. shells from Cabelas. Haven't try loading them yet, but it's on the ta do list.

Rusty <><

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:56 am

The old style way of reloding brass shotshell cases was to load as normal, do NOT crimp, but insert the over shot card wad and hold it in place with a seal of waterglass. This was commonally used to seal cracked eggshells. The reason being no wear and tear on the brass case rim. I believe it is still being produced.

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:38 pm

Cool I will have to pick some up and play with them.

SR James · Post by **SR James** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:23 pm

I believe the website omgb is referring to is

http://www.hammerdouble.com/index.html

While its true brass shells don't need to be crimped for singleshots and doubles, most repeaters ('87s, '97s, etc.) often have trouble feeding them smoothly without a slight roll crimp.

omgb · Post by **omgb** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:35 pm

Yep, that's the company. FWIW, I never crimp, and i don't use water glass. I use a from of super glue called Satelite City or Hot Stuff. Iuse the medium grade or the thick it isn't important and I just put a dab on the over the shot wad. Works like a charm.

SR James · Post by **SR James** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:50 pm

I usually use a hot melt glue gun. Its worked well.

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:48 pm

I bet that was hilarious!

It would fit right in with my "Chevy Chase" world.

bogie