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Thanks for posting links to cut-away pics of the 1894, I finally got the lever figured out. I made this today, and I want to know what your opinions are. I made this one out of Aluminum to get the kinks worked out before I make one from steel. How does it look? Personally, I think I might have made it a little too large, but I don't know. I don't think it's as big as the one on John Wayne's classic 92 rifle.
What do you think, what should I change. I'll tell you it took me quite a while to figure out the geometry of the lever. I have new respect for the first guys to put this thing together.
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Looks good...to get a better comparison, take a look at the large lever loop that Wild West Guns has on thier web site. Yours looks pretty close to what they have...I have one on my 1895GS from them. I like it when it's cold and I'm wearing gloves...
Looks good! As for size, I guess I'd want it just big enough to comfortably fit my hand with the biggest glove I'd be apt to wear and no bigger. You going into production with these?
Great work with a lot of engineering and thought put into it but it's too big for my taste. A little smaller and more rounded would make it look better.
The geometry of this one makes it easier to cycle the action. Proof is in the pudding. I like the one Rossi uses. Depends somewhat on your hand and if gloves will be involved. I think for my taste I would take a little off the lower back. Impressive that you could do that.
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"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men
shall possess the highest seats in Government,
our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots
to prevent its ruin." Samuel Adams
I'll add to the "wow nice work" comments. Though, I don't like the big loop look myself and find the issue levers just fine. The one that OS showed would be my pick should cold weater necessitate gloves.
Very nice work! If I were to buy one, I'd like the back end to not stick out so much and the "belly" to be less. I'd also round it off more, less square. Did you do the work yourself or was it done by CNC?
Opinion: I like my big loop levers more roundererererer than what you done got there. ...but, the factory big lever on my Henry is a little bigger than the one that Old Savage has, and it is the same shape, and I like it, too.
If your design functions for you, then leave that way.
Shawn
"That's right, Billy, I'm good with it. I hit what I shoot at, and I'm fast!"-Lucas McCain, c1882.
I shrunk the loop a little bit so it looks a little better. Also, just to be different, I added a couple of small finger notches to see how they feel. One thing that I thought I might like is the addition of a trigger stop, to get rid of the extra travel. Not sure quite how it will work, but I thought I'd give it a try and see. It will have to be filed to fit, so I should be able to get the trigger to stop right after it breaks.
Borregos Here's a link to one of the cutaways, this one has animation.
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men
shall possess the highest seats in Government,
our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots
to prevent its ruin." Samuel Adams
I like the new design. Just a thought, what if you extended the portion where the finger grooves are a half inch to allow for a positive lock up of the lever. It would act like the addition at the bottom of beaver tail grip on a 1911. The finger grooves still could be added on to the extended portion.
Too much for me, I prefer the stock lever. It has worked well for over 100 years I have no need to change it now. But good luck with it, to each his own.
Personally, one JUST large enough to hold a gloved hand is plenty big enough. Slop between the hand and lever is wasted energy. No, I'm not talking a race gun, but a hunting gun. I see no reason for the huge lever loops unless you habitually use the big sealskin mittens with a shooting finger...
Sincerely,
Hobie
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But,...But,....John Wayne had a gigantic loop........
Thanks for all the replies, I've got a design whittled out that I like. Now all I need is to order some steel. It's my understanding that steel with a higher carbon content provides a deeper blue. Is there any truth to this. I was thinking about some 4300 series Chrome Moly. I'd like to use a 12L14 or 12L40, but I can't find it in sheet form and I don't know if it would blue nicely.
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men
shall possess the highest seats in Government,
our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots
to prevent its ruin." Samuel Adams
Do any pivot or engagement points have to be hardened? It could be so for a commercial product where one doesn't know how much use a product will get. One might not need to on a personal loop.