What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
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What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
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Figured this one might stir a little bit of controversy. Still, it is a serious question. One hears ad nauseum about how accurate the bolt-action can be. Same for the single-shot. Even the semi-action, with the proper tuning and ammunition, is capable of incredible accuracy. But most people dis the good ol' leveraction - you know, the gun that has taken more deer on this continent than any other type of firearm. So, what specific make and model, with what ammunition, do you think is the all-time (to date) most accurate lever-action ever?
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Figured this one might stir a little bit of controversy. Still, it is a serious question. One hears ad nauseum about how accurate the bolt-action can be. Same for the single-shot. Even the semi-action, with the proper tuning and ammunition, is capable of incredible accuracy. But most people dis the good ol' leveraction - you know, the gun that has taken more deer on this continent than any other type of firearm. So, what specific make and model, with what ammunition, do you think is the all-time (to date) most accurate lever-action ever?
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Probably a Ruger #1 chambered in a .250 cal with a heavy barrel.
Or if you are refering to a more traditional levergun with a rear lock up bolt, I'd say them .25-35's were supposed to be pretty darn accurate.
Or if you are refering to a more traditional levergun with a rear lock up bolt, I'd say them .25-35's were supposed to be pretty darn accurate.
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A rifle variant marlin 1893 or winchester 1894 in 38-55 is a very accurate weapon, it would probly get my nod. As for the rifle with the most deer to its name it would be a winchester 94 30-30.
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The Winchester 88 or Savage 99. The box magazine makes a difference.
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I hear tell it's the BLR's in the bolt-gun cartridges. I don't know though. For me, all of them shoot better than I do.
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Re: What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
Ysabel, yeah, you like to stir the pot! Its going to depend on caliber as some are more accurate than others. I think any rifle in 308, including the Win 88's and Savage 99's, will probably qualify. However, I would have to add that the Browning BLR in 308, 358, and maybe even other calibers will have to qualify even more so! No, its not a traditional lever, but they are so well made, and shoot so well, that they cannot be ignored.
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Re: What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
All of the BLR's I've been around will run right with bolt guns accuracy wise,mostly due to the rotating bolt lock up just like a bolt gun.
That said a winchester 94 or one of the variations of Marlins 336 fitted with a scope will shoot very tight groups.
My 95 winchester in 405 is scary accurate when fed its favorite loads as well.
Savage 99's and winchester 88's are shonuff hunting accurate, but I've not been around one that'll shoot clover leafs at 100yds and beyond.
That said a winchester 94 or one of the variations of Marlins 336 fitted with a scope will shoot very tight groups.
My 95 winchester in 405 is scary accurate when fed its favorite loads as well.
Savage 99's and winchester 88's are shonuff hunting accurate, but I've not been around one that'll shoot clover leafs at 100yds and beyond.
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I shot a three point mulie through the lungs (one shot kill, DRT) offhand at 124 yards with my Browning Model 71 .348. See my avatar, that's him. That's all the accuracy I need.
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I have to vote for my 375win with my hand cast bullets.
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Yep, me too!Andrew wrote:I hear tell it's the BLR's in the bolt-gun cartridges. I don't know though. For me, all of them shoot better than I do.
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My vote would go to the Winchester 92 John Wayne used in Rio Bravo!!!
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My 100+yr. old Win. 94 in 25-35 is flat out
one of the most accurate guns I have ever shot.
one of the most accurate guns I have ever shot.
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My Savage 99G in 300sav with factory ammo.
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My Winchester 88 shoots better with fac. ammo and any of the bolts guns I have owned in the past. I've seen some BLR's shoot great also...
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Re: What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
Simple... The Sako FinnWolf
Sako is the only mass producer of rifles that guarantees 1 MOA when the rifle leaves the factory.
I've got two, both over 20 years old, and both will do 1 inch groups at 100 all day long, to the point that its almost boring.
Sako is the only mass producer of rifles that guarantees 1 MOA when the rifle leaves the factory.
I've got two, both over 20 years old, and both will do 1 inch groups at 100 all day long, to the point that its almost boring.
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my sharps is one of the most accurate I have ever shot- BLR's have shot very well for me in the past. I am very pleased with my modern marlin redo by WWG
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Re: What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
I have two amazingly accurate lever actions.
A BLR in .308 and A Marlin 1889 (manufactured in 1892) in 44-40.
A BLR in .308 and A Marlin 1889 (manufactured in 1892) in 44-40.
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My Winchester 307 & Marlin 1895G. The most accurate guns I own.
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Re: What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
Have to agree with Mike Hunter, Sako Finnwolf. I would put mine up against any lever in a shoot off.
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I'd say it's the shooter that determines how accurate the rifle is -- not the rifle standing alone.
Here's an idea of what one of my Winchester Model 94 .30-30 Carbines is capable of doing as long as I do my part.
Can I shoot that rifle like that everytime I go shooting? Hell no but I can come very close.
I have several bolt-action and pump action rifles that I've never shot a group with that is as small or smaller than the one shown shot with the Model 94.
There are lots of accurate rifles out there. They're just waiting for someone to come along who can shoot them.
If you've got a rifle that you can consitently hit a circle the size of an 8" pie plate at 100 yards or a 10" pie plate at 200 yards, you've got a rifle to hunt with.
Here's an idea of what one of my Winchester Model 94 .30-30 Carbines is capable of doing as long as I do my part.
Can I shoot that rifle like that everytime I go shooting? Hell no but I can come very close.
I have several bolt-action and pump action rifles that I've never shot a group with that is as small or smaller than the one shown shot with the Model 94.
There are lots of accurate rifles out there. They're just waiting for someone to come along who can shoot them.
If you've got a rifle that you can consitently hit a circle the size of an 8" pie plate at 100 yards or a 10" pie plate at 200 yards, you've got a rifle to hunt with.
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Re: What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?
Ihaven't read all the responses, so I might be repeating someone else. IMO the most accurate lever-gun is the Browning BLR, aka Model 81.
My .358 Win BLR is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned and one of the most accurate I've ever shot. When I holder it right, it will make one hole groups at 100 yards, and not a lot larger at 200 yards.
My .358 Win BLR is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned and one of the most accurate I've ever shot. When I holder it right, it will make one hole groups at 100 yards, and not a lot larger at 200 yards.
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Here we go, one more time up the flag pole. Will your FinnWolf beat this? 81 BLR - 100 yds.
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Most accurate levergun? Dont that deppend on the one pulling the trigger too?
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Nice shooting Old Savage!! Seems like us older guys can still shoot straight despite the ravages of old age.
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Beat it, dont know....
But again for consistant performance, I'd go with a Sako.
Every company that makes guns has a few great shooters, and a few dogs, most are somewhere in the middle. Sako is the only company that air guages each barrel and has a 1 MOA accuracy claim. So if you get a real dog Sako you're at least going to get 1 MOA, and one would guess that the average is sub MOA.
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Beat it, dont know....
But again for consistant performance, I'd go with a Sako.
Every company that makes guns has a few great shooters, and a few dogs, most are somewhere in the middle. Sako is the only company that air guages each barrel and has a 1 MOA accuracy claim. So if you get a real dog Sako you're at least going to get 1 MOA, and one would guess that the average is sub MOA.
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I have a Model 64 in 25-35 that is the most accurate rifle I've ever shot. Better than any bolt *I've* owned. 5 five shot groups one day, the largest being 3/4" and the smallest 2 were 1/2". That is with 1960's factory W-W 117gr ammuntion. I've not yet found any handloads that will break 1" in it though.....
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Well Modoc - you might note that was some time ago.
Haven't even ever seen a FinnWolf but you will see from what is said here these very accurate BLRs are the rule.
Haven't even ever seen a FinnWolf but you will see from what is said here these very accurate BLRs are the rule.
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I guess the "best" answer would have to be caveated by:
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Prolly a BLR variant or the Finnwolf.
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Old Savage wrote:Well Modoc - you might note that was some time ago.
Haven't even ever seen a FinnWolf but you will see from what is said here these very accurate BLRs are the rule.
Well Old Savge I did note the date but figured that even back in "92" there was probably some kid that thought you were an old fanny burp. Anyway, I'd bet you could shoot that again or come very close even today.
Yep, a buddy of mine has a BLR and he shoots it pretty darn good. Don't have a clue about the FinnWolfs.
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In my experience the BLR is probably tops as far as accurate goes. I have owned 1 in .270 and now own one in .308. They are not quite the equivalent of the best bolts I have ever shot but they are real close! Nice shooting rifles, both capable of 1 MOA if you do your part!
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Sharps...(look at what Quigley did with his)
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I have owned most of the Winchester models, most of the Marlins, and a couple of Savage 99s, and I have owned 4 of the Browning 81 older steelframed BLR's.
I have found exceptionally accurate guns, and a few lemmons in all of them. But over all, my vote goes for the BLR's. If they have a drawback it's the trigger, but it can be made a lot better by a good gunsmith.
In .22 rimfire, my vote goes to the Marlin 39A, but I also have a Win 9422mag that is very accurate, and a darned good shooting Browning BL22. I like all three for different reasons.
I have found exceptionally accurate guns, and a few lemmons in all of them. But over all, my vote goes for the BLR's. If they have a drawback it's the trigger, but it can be made a lot better by a good gunsmith.
In .22 rimfire, my vote goes to the Marlin 39A, but I also have a Win 9422mag that is very accurate, and a darned good shooting Browning BL22. I like all three for different reasons.
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Ya'll are giving mighty short shrift to the Marlins. My new model 444 with less than a 100 rounds through it will shoot one hole 3 shot groups at a hundred yards with a hand load.
Seems like leverguns are a lot like fine cameras. The capabilities designed in far exceed the average users ability or persistance. lol
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Perhaps there was a reason that all of the target shooters of yesteryear, and even the Schutzen shooters of today still use the 1885 Winchester??
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Here is a sight in for a 99 Savage in 250 built in the year of KirkD's birth. First shot is under the 8 - sight change - next shot it under the 10 - sight change - then five I believe. The 300 99 of the same year is as accurate.
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Some good comments and answers here. I have two comments. The most accurate lever rifle I have seen is usually the one used by the guy who beat me out a match. Another side, but not straight stock was a Marlin reworked to test the then new Microgroove rifling. I cannot remember who did it, but a one and a quarter inch diameter barrel with the new Microgroove rifling and chambered in the 30-30 cartridge. Mounted into a 336 action, machine rested and could shoot ten shots into one hole at 100 yards. Of course it was a single shot and rifling only lasted a limited number of shots, one reason the bench rest people gave up on Microgroove. ATB
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OK, here is one of my M67s into the pile. I have read a lot of this is the most accurate. Show me photos of the groups from the most accurate lever and we can judge for ourselves.
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Gotta go with Mike. Sako Finnwolf, hands down!Mike Hunter wrote:Simple... The Sako FinnWolf
Sako is the only mass producer of rifles that guarantees 1 MOA when the rifle leaves the factory.
I've got two, both over 20 years old, and both will do 1 inch groups at 100 all day long, to the point that its almost boring.
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Let's see:Grizzly Adams wrote:Gotta go with Mike. Sako Finnwolf, hands down!Mike Hunter wrote:Simple... The Sako FinnWolf
Sako is the only mass producer of rifles that guarantees 1 MOA when the rifle leaves the factory.
I've got two, both over 20 years old, and both will do 1 inch groups at 100 all day long, to the point that its almost boring.
Topic of this thread: "What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?"
Sako Finnwolf: Is that a new lever action rifle on the market? Haven't seen one yet. How many rounds does the magazine tube hold?
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Box Magazine.Modoc ED wrote:Let's see:Grizzly Adams wrote:Gotta go with Mike. Sako Finnwolf, hands down!Mike Hunter wrote:Simple... The Sako FinnWolf
Sako is the only mass producer of rifles that guarantees 1 MOA when the rifle leaves the factory.
I've got two, both over 20 years old, and both will do 1 inch groups at 100 all day long, to the point that its almost boring.
Topic of this thread: "What is/was the most accurate leveraction ever made?"
Sako Finnwolf: Is that a new lever action rifle on the market? Haven't seen one yet. How many rounds does the magazine tube hold?
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