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Pardon my confusion, but I'm not clear on which is the object of your ire.Old Ironsights wrote:With "Libertarians" like these...![]()
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Is that as opposed to 'political effluent'?FWiedner wrote:In truth, this is one of those circumstances where the balance of right must be distilled to just such a fundamental level, but in reality, as in many cases, it is a question which will probably be decided based upon which party is able to muster the greater political infulent.
You are very lucky. You must not live in too anti-gun an urban area.KT-45 wrote:WOW. OK, maybe I'm missing the point. Let me recap:
1 - gun owners object to employers refusing to allow them to bring a gun to work...at least on the property owned and controlled by the employer.
2 - Business owners expect that they can control who brings what onto their property.
Oddly enough, I have discussed this with my employer. He has no problems with me carrying on the job...let alone leaving a firearm in my privately owned vehicle on his property while I'm working. In return I don't have a problem working for him.
Until you can't find employment because no employer is willing (or able for insurance reasons) to "allow" you to exercise your Right to (prepare for) Self Defense - thus making your life 'worth less" than the value of his insurance policy.THAT'S the bottom line! Employment is an agreement between employer and employee. If you don't like the agreement then find other employment!
KT-45 wrote:Is that as opposed to 'political effluent'?FWiedner wrote:In truth, this is one of those circumstances where the balance of right must be distilled to just such a fundamental level, but in reality, as in many cases, it is a question which will probably be decided based upon which party is able to muster the greater political infulent.
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Sorry, just had to nitpick.
But you gotta admit that there's too much 'political effluent' these days!
OI - Yes, I live in an urban area, albeit one that is right-leaning in the extreme...which, of course, is why I choose to live here.Old Ironsights wrote:You are very lucky. You must not live in too anti-gun an urban area.KT-45 wrote:WOW. OK, maybe I'm missing the point. Let me recap:
1 - gun owners object to employers refusing to allow them to bring a gun to work...at least on the property owned and controlled by the employer.
2 - Business owners expect that they can control who brings what onto their property.
Oddly enough, I have discussed this with my employer. He has no problems with me carrying on the job...let alone leaving a firearm in my privately owned vehicle on his property while I'm working. In return I don't have a problem working for him.
Until you can't find employment because no employer is willing (or able for insurance reasons) to "allow" you to exercise your Right to (prepare for) Self Defense - thus making your life 'worth less" than the value of his insurance policy.THAT'S the bottom line! Employment is an agreement between employer and employee. If you don't like the agreement then find other employment!
Ain't it great when an insurance company can declare your life worthless?
Never been a fan of mixing booze and guns myself.KT-45 wrote:He just gave me a huge gin...
My head is bloody but unbowed!FWiedner wrote:Never been a fan of mixing booze and guns myself.KT-45 wrote:He just gave me a huge gin...