Interesting .429 bullets.

[mickbr]

Something a local fella makes, swaging/forming 40 S&W cases into .429 bullets. I believe its a soldered lead core. 240 grains weight and apparently do well on hogs. Ive heard of pistol cases being used as bullets before but have not encountered them before this.

[Shasta]

Swaging fired .22LR cases into bullets was how Fred Huntington got his start as the founder of RCBS. It appears this fellow is doing it on a bit larger scale.

Shasta

[GunnyMack]

I did that years ago, I didn't form to hollow points though.
The few I did make shot fairly well.

[High Desert Hunter]

I believe Jim T made 475 Linebaugh bullets from 45 ACP cases.

[JimT]

Yessir. I have done that. Also shot .40 S&W cases as bullets in my .44 Special.

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[JimT]

I bet those bullets do work well on hogs. That's a nice tough jacket for penetration.

[piller]

Depending on the solder or whatever the filler is, those might not open much. Probably is good for killing those swine pests.

[mickbr]

yes they are meant for carbines he said. I'll see if he has some expansion photos.

[44shooter]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

[JimT]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

You have to load them with the base being the rear of it when using the empties as a bullet. If you load an empty cartridge base forward, the primer blows out of the primer pocket and leaves the cartridge-bullet stuck part way down the bore. Yes. I have done it.

[GunnyMack]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

That's why you solder a 9mm into the 40, then you have a solid.

[44shooter]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

You have to load them with the base being the rear of it when using the empties as a bullet. If you load an empty cartridge base forward, the primer blows out of the primer pocket and leaves the cartridge-bullet stuck part way down the bore. Yes. I have done it.

I would want some lead behind the case head for weight anyway

[44shooter]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

That's why you solder a 9mm into the 40, then you have a solid.

Hmm, maybe a 9mm case full of lead inside an inverted 40 case in front of a 44 case of powder

[AJMD429]

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Those look pretty awesome. Although when I pull up that link there's an ad stream on the right hand side of the page that has some other good looking things that are what I would call " Not safe for the workplace..."

I would be interested to see if cartridge case metal wears out rifling though...

[mickbr]

From my link doc? Im just using postimage.org. My user inteface doesnt show any ads. I'll stop using the service if this is the case

[GunnyMack]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

That's why you solder a 9mm into the 40, then you have a solid.

Hmm, maybe a 9mm case full of lead inside an inverted 40 case in front of a 44 case of powder

That's what I meant

[AJMD429]

From my link doc? Im just using postimage.org. My user inteface doesnt show any ads. I'll stop using the service if this is the case

My computer is acting weird lately - maybe that's it. I had to disable the 'pop-up blocker' due to the way our Electronic Medical Records software works, which is kind of creepy. I'm working with the IT people to see if that can't be worked around better. I'm pretty hard to shock or offend (my job involves more 'nudity' than any website's going to show), but dislike the potential viruses and stuff that could be invited in (the parallels of computers and biology are interesting - the 'promiscuous' world in computer-land get you 'infected' just like it does in biology-land...

[AJMD429]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

That's why you solder a 9mm into the 40, then you have a solid.

Hmm, maybe a 9mm case full of lead inside an inverted 40 case in front of a 44 case of powder

That's what I meant

This reminds me of THIS channel - 'Taofledermaus' - https://www.youtube.com/@taofledermaus - he experiments with all sorts of projectiles...

This one makes me wish I had a lathe... - https://youtu.be/qa8zIjimYKI

If I had more time to spare I'd mess with some similar stuff - used to when I as a kid.

[JimT]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

You have to load them with the base being the rear of it when using the empties as a bullet. If you load an empty cartridge base forward, the primer blows out of the primer pocket and leaves the cartridge-bullet stuck part way down the bore. Yes. I have done it.

I would want some lead behind the case head for weight anyway

Ah ... understood. I never messed with trying to make jacketed solids out of them. I just shot them empty as an extremely lightweight short range high velocity loading.

[samsi]

I’m thinking loading head forward would make a heck of a solid wadcutter

That's why you solder a 9mm into the 40, then you have a solid.

Hmm, maybe a 9mm case full of lead inside an inverted 40 case in front of a 44 case of powder

That's what I meant

Sounds like some kinda ballistic Turducken!

[tray]

I make bullets with them and they can be very accurate when the same care is used when making any other accurate bullet. For most bullet weights I want, I have to trim them to length, then anneal them. I could use a bullet mold for casting cores but I prefer core molds. With a little experience one can learn what weight core matches what length case to make the desired bullet. Then it is a matter of casting and swaging cores, cutting and annealing cases, seating cores into cases, then forming the desired nose. The process can be as crude or refined as one wants to use and still be surprisingly successful at making a shootable projectile.
I figure if I am going to go to the trouble to make a bullet, I want it to be something I can benefit from the effort. I like accuracy from my reloading components. The only one hole groups I have ever shot came from a Freedom Arms 83 in 44 magnum shooting bullets I swaged myself. I came close to that with cast bullets from a factory five inch 1950 target model 44 special at 25 yards. I can't see well enough today to repeat it but the guns are still capable.

[Keith D]

I loaded some over 10 years ago and still have 2 left. 40 S&W brass as bullets in 44 Special cases with 10 grains of Bullseye. I put some JB Weld over the primers to keep them from blowing out. They worked well from what I remember. Did good work to a gallon milk jug full of water.

[LeverGunner]

Okay, I'm learning something new. 40 S&W cases for 44 projectiles, that's pretty wild.