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I don't have anything between a 223/5.56 and a 30-30 or 308, other than my wonderful 6mm Remington in a 1975 Ruger M77V, so "of course" I need something in the 223-243 range in a levergun, right...???
AR-15's are really hard to beat in terms of practical functionality (like Glocks), but are just not as FUN as leverguns, and for varmints or home protection (unless there really is an apocalyptic zombie-swarm) a levergun is really just as practical, or perhaps even moreso.
It's 2025 - "Cutesy Time is OVER....!" [Dan Bongino]
AR pattern or any battle rifle is just a soulless tool. Yes I have them, hardly ever take one out, they just don't 'do it ' for me.
I like and enjoy any and all firearms but I'd walk past an AR with a table full of loaded mags at the range to go watch a guy teach his kids with a Chipmunk. 22 .
I shot one of these recently in 223. It had iron sights though, no scope. There was only one thing I didn't like, the magazine not being a little more flush, but I can live with that and there may be shorter profile mags available.
What I did like.
Very smooth action.
Fed great.
Nice wood and checkering.
Points very well for me with irons.
Very accurate, even with irons.
Very good extraction and ejection.
Great trigger.
Nice weight to pack.
Balances nice.
Not to mention and although I don't know this for certain, but I think they take any AR magazine.
I also tore the rifle down. They have an AR style bolt and firing pin, very easy to service. Easy to clean from the breach.
I would like to get one and I might when I come into some more $.
I saw one at a gunshop over in PA. picked it up and worked the action .it was smooth as silk....if they come out with it in .360 Buckhammer i'll buy it today. I could Deer hunt with it in Ohio............. At least it would sound better when I tell Momma. .
My shooting partner had a Henry Long Ranger in .243. We tried all sorts of stuff to get it to shoot better, various loads and bullet weights, checking the barrel channel clearance but nothing really improved it so he sold it. He also didn't like the rack and pinion action, preferring Marlins or other Henrys with more conventional levers.
GunnyMack wrote: ↑Fri Jan 23, 2026 1:06 pm
AR pattern or any battle rifle is just a soulless tool. Yes I have them, hardly ever take one out, they just don't 'do it ' for me.
I like and enjoy any and all firearms but I'd walk past an AR with a table full of loaded mags at the range to go watch a guy teach his kids with a Chipmunk. 22 .
I agree 100% and would trade my AR15 in .223 or my AR12 12 gauge shotgun for anything I like. But not for the levergun above! It does nothing for me just as my two do nothing for me either.
I have an old AR SP-1 (triangular fore end) which shoots well but the truth is that when picking a long gun in my locker to shoot, it would probably be the last I'd choose.
By looks alone, I'm undecided. In either .223 or 300BO, I'm not sure I'd spend that much. I'd have to have my hands on one to decide. While I'm not a big fan of the AR platform, I do enjoy the ones I have.
Griff,
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There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
Walt wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 12:19 pm
I have an old AR SP-1 (triangular fore end) which shoots well but the truth is that when picking a long gun in my locker to shoot, it would probably be the last I'd choose.
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