Chairmen of the Politically Incorrect

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:18 pm

I put andy@skinnersights.com into my contacts list and I fully intend to email him about any forum failures when, not if, they happen.

Man, it's been beautiful here. It has been up around 70° for the past few days. Blue skies, mild evenings, no wind....what's not to like?

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Fri Nov 07, 2025 6:06 am

Congratulations Walt for winning post 296..

The admin do not check in very often so the forum can go t*ts up and they don't know

The weather here as been unusually mild for November and although not as beautiful as Fall in the USA I am seeing a bit of color here and there.

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Post by **Old Savage** » Fri Nov 07, 2025 8:19 am

Recently visited NJ

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:45 pm

Man, it seems like I haven't been here forever. Thing never works and I get fed up. I texted Gunny to see if it was just me. I got an email from Walt and GK too. Thanks guys.

Anyway....hunting season is in full swing here. I'm at camp as I type this. Just had some lunch and planning an afternoon strategy. Great to be here. We are heading across the ridge to my dad's friend's camp for supper. We'll drink some of his beer and swap lies for a while. His place is a palace compared to ours. His front porch is probably 24 feet long and lined with the old coca cola chest coolers. He FILLS them all with beer of every type for the season. We helped he and his boy get out a big doe the other evening. He got it on their lot that abutts ours.
We are staying over at our camp tonight to get out early tomorrow morning. Then we will come back for a good breakfast after sitting through the early morning.
No deer yet, but I managed to pop this coyote yesterday morning. When the old 94 says "STAY!"......they stay.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Fri Nov 07, 2025 5:16 pm

Well done on the Coyote

good practice for when that big ol' buck appears.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Nov 08, 2025 6:44 am

Good old all-purpose model 94! Do you sell coyote hides?

That's a slick rifle rack on your TW; does that work to your satisfaction?

Thanks for the pictures, OW. Glad to be on the forum again.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:01 am

Thanks guys!

Walt,
Those racks are my all time favorite. It's called a Pack Rack. We've had them on all our 4 wheelers. The sockets clamp to the handle bars and are very unobtrusive. Then the actual rack threads into the sockets. Position and height can be adjusted by screwing or unscrewing them, then it locks with a wing nut. After the season, you can just unscrew the rack and it only leaves the socket behind. The one on my TW I wanted a little taller, so I put in a short piece of threaded rod and a barrel nut to extend it. The Pack Rack only costs 26 bucks on Amazon.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:00 pm

Coming down my driveway last Tuesday night.....big kitty

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:23 pm

Wow! There are those that say they are here. I've never seen one or sign of one, but a good friend saw one up north. There is another guy that got a good picture of one not too far from my camp while rabbit hunting one winter.
They are a nasty piece of business for sure.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Mon Nov 10, 2025 3:37 am

Cool we only have the Scottish wild cat that is rapidly becoming extinct and there is a move to reintroduce the Lynx. I once knew a guy who had a pet Cougar but it was shot dead by a sheep farmer.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:40 pm

GK, this is a bit blurry but it's a bobcat, one of our mid-size kitties about the same size as a lynx taken last week just off my driveway.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:20 pm

That's great Walt, I love watching wildlife but you certainly have more interesting critters over there

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:12 pm

We have a lot of bobcats here too.
No critters today. Haven't seen any deer either. But how bad can it be? We are staying over tonight. Having steak, baked potatoes, and fiddleheads for supper.
And of course, a little nip first.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Tue Nov 18, 2025 8:58 pm

Good to see you on the forum again, Jay.

Looks like you got a touch of early season snow.

What do you tow with your TW? Is it handier to haul a light utility trailer than doing it with an ATV?

Is that Old Forester whisky one of your favorites? I love the taste of whiskys but they screw up my stomach. I don't drink much but tequila is my favorite distilled drink when I do. Good stuff!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Wed Nov 19, 2025 2:33 am

Hey guys we're back

had about 2" of snow last night probably be gone by lunch .
Old Forester is one I haven't tried or even seen over here, still got a drop of Makers Mark in the bottle but hardly drink much liquor these days.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:23 am

Hey guys! Yeah, it's working way better now.

We have gotten 3 or so inches more snow since. The old T-dub is still going strong. Glad I put those new tires on. Between the snow and the muddy quagmire in some of our trails, I need them.

Even though there is a trailer ball on the hitch, I don't pull a trailer with a regular coupler. I'd have to space the ball up a couple inches. I think the coupler would make contact with the hitch frame. My guess is they did it on purpose so people wouldn't pull trailers on the road without having to make a modification ( and thereby dodge liability).
I have it to drag deer with. I simply use a rope twisted over the ball and run to a Jet Sled that I will (hopefully) put the deer in. I haven't got one yet but have no doubt it will pull it.
I saw 2 yesterday. Finally! One was up by our northeast corner. I was slowly moving along and noticed a fresh track that all of a sudden looked hurried. After about 50 yards the ground fell away sharply about 25 feet down onto a flat by the stream with a big alder run along it. Not sure if it was a buck, but it was a good sized deer. When I peeked over the drop he was watching his back trail. He saw me and took off, jumping blowdowns and running for the alders through the trees. I'm not one to take a shot like that, so while my old 94 carbine was up with the hammer back like magic, I didn't fire.
The second one is funny.......and embarrassing.
We met back at camp to warm up and get a coffee and some soup. We had "boiled up" and I was sipping my coffee in my spot at the table (for a reference, see the above pic with the whisky. The picture is taken from that spot.). I looked out the kitchen window by the stove and there was a little doe standing in the road about 30 yards from camp. She was just as unconcerned, and rightfully so, because we leave our rifles outside so that they don't condensate when we come in from the cold.

Dad reached for the door knob and I said "I'll bet you a thousand dollars you don't even get the door open". I would have won if he took the bet.

That's part of the fun I guess. As you guys probably have noticed, we don't take it too serious anyway. That's why it's fun and I love to go. Don't get me wrong, a little deer meat would be nice too!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Wed Nov 19, 2025 11:19 am

Oh yeah, the Old Forrester! The bottle on the table is the first one I've bought, but I really like it. An interesting fact is that Old Forrester is the first whisky in the US to be put in bottles. It's a very old brand, and is one if only a couple distilleries to get a pass and be able to make whisky during prohibition.
I found it while looking for old brands that were around during the old west period. The one I'm really looking for but can't find it local is Old Overholt. I'm hoping I can find it down to Augusta, but hate to drive down there just for that.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Fri Nov 21, 2025 5:55 am

I'm going to look out for Old Forester, I only buy the occasional bottle of bourbon these days so a new to me brand is tempting

Still getting the odd overnight snow flurry and freezing temperatures, luckily my son has a never ending supply of firewood. At the moment I'm keeping my head down as his mother has driven up from Hampshire for a few days...

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri Nov 21, 2025 7:58 am

John, good luck avoiding your ex. Time just seems to crawl when you're waiting for someone to leave.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Fri Nov 21, 2025 10:38 am

Oh oh! Duck and cover buddy!

Sadly, I have one of those too. I haven't spoken to her since 2009 when my son needed her signature to go into the Coast Guard at 17.
However, about 2 or 3 years ago I was sitting up late one night watching a movie, when all of a sudden FB messenger started blowing up. I must of got 20 horrid and threatening messages in rapid succession. Now, we've been divorced since 1999, and she left me for another guy who she is still married to. Guess I'm living rent free in that empty head. She's obviously real happy. Now, I obviously didn't answer (but I saved the messages), but I do think she's gone around the bend. I really don't give it a thought, but my wife was mildly concerned she'd burn our house down, so we invested in some cameras.

Hopefully it will stay quiet. And for you too buddy!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Fri Nov 21, 2025 11:30 am

Thanks guys, at least my daughter in law realises I make a much better nextdoor neighbour...

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:22 am

No deer, and very little sign, but still good times! Just a few pics from this week.

Post by **Old Savage** » Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:30 pm

Thanksgiving coming up. Going to do a turkey in the rotisserie. No golf for more than a week with the rain here.

Went to see an Eagles cover group.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:36 pm

Great pictures, Jay! I especially like the first one.

Just being there is always the best part.

Thanks

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Nov 22, 2025 1:58 pm

Golf withdrawals OS? Always liked the eagles.

Thank Walt! Pictures never do justice. The best part of hunting is the country you do it in. Especially if you own it. Wish there were more deer, but that's ok.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:16 pm

About ten years ago our son, Victor and I did some long-range shooting. The picture below is of him shooting a Tika 6.5 Ceedmoor (I think) at a 15" plate at 1060 yards. Those experiences got him interested in Precision Rifle Shooting in which he's been competing for the past couple of years.

He used his skills to his advantage on an elk hunt in western Idaho last month. He doesn't hold over or practice "Kentucky Windage". Rather, he determines the distance to his target with a rangefinder, dials the bullet drop onto his scope and shoots.

In getting his elk in Idaho, his buddy ranged it at 707 yards, Victor did his adjustment and shot. The elk didn't take a step but piled up DRT. It was a great hunt for both Victor and his friend who had taken his elk on the first morning of the hunt at 140 yards.

BTW, they both used suppressors on their rifles. Victor was shooting a 300 Win mag with 215 gr bullets at just under 3000 fps and his buddy had some kind of 7mm SAUM wildcat, both of which are deafening without a suppressor.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:27 pm

Holy smokes! Like the old timers used to say around here........"He better be careful, or he'll strain that barrel!"

That's soooommmme shooting.

I almost got one today....
I was sitting in the stand the picture above was taken from. About 3:30 or so this afternoon it got quiet. It had been blowing and snow squalling pretty good earlier, but settled down nice. Out in front of me in the thick I heard one going by towards the east. He may have skirted my dad who was off to the north and west of me. Anyway, I heard him, but knew he was going to pass by and stay in that thick. I had nothing to lose, so I hitched myself around in the stand to get a better angle and blew my grunt call. I instantly heard him stop and turn around, but he stayed in that thick. I had the wind in my favor, but now the standoff started. I had the old 94 up and on my shoulder, studying holes in the trees, limbs, and brush I could shoot through. I knew it would be a brisket shot if he stuck his head out. It would be about 50 yards, but a tough shot. All of a sudden, the wind started swirling again and it started to squalling. Now I couldn't hear and time was marching on. I doubted he would try and circle me the way he was headed. It was toward the stream and there wasn't a good route around. If he backtracked and circled, however, it would be a different story. He would bust me for sure and I couldn't hear if he was moving. The wind finally dropped and I heard nothing. I chanced one more grunt, but still saw or heard nothing. I sat unmoving until I lost my shooting light. Man, I hated to get out of that stand. He probably stood there in that thicket and watched me get down.
Oh well. That's hunting the Maine woods.
Certainly no 1000 yard shots! Matter of fact, Ive never shot a deer a hundred yards away. I've also never had a clear broadside shot on a deer. It's always some messed up angle between a hole in the trees..... while I'm standing on my head.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Mon Nov 24, 2025 4:24 am

Cool long range shooting Walt I've never had anything that would chuck lead that far,

Jay, there are days when it seems all they do is tease but they always make a mistake in the end.
Different subject I watched a video yesterday about Moose in Maine and the Winter Tick I'd never heard of a Winter Tick so was wondering if you ever had a problem with them, apparently the cure was to shoot more Moose so that the tick had less chance to find a host and breed.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:16 am

Yeah, there were tons of moose here. Still are a lot, but I don't think numbers are what they were, and the range has moved farther north, to a larger degree. We still see them here in town once in a while though.
The ticks are what is different. They were never here at all till maybe 15 or 20 years ago, and have exploded in the last few years. I hate those friggen things. We don't seem to have many at camp. I haven't had one on me in a long time. Probably because we don't have a lot of deer. Further south in the state they are terrible, and there are no moose down there. Of course, this is predominantly deer ticks. I'm not sure if winter ticks are a different species, but I know they can kill a young moose or calf from loss of blood and diseases.
And as for "shooting more", that's just state propaganda. Remember, the moose hunt is a lottery system. The state sells those permits and makes a fortune. They have had the moose hunt since 1980, and have never once cut the number of permits. Just raised them.
They also "managed" the deer herd by going to bucks only with a doe permit system. This too was a drawing, and numbers varied across the 20 something districts across the state. These were no charge however. Some districts would have none issued if the herd was down in that area. Then, 2 years ago, they started charging for the doe permits. Guess what......? Why now you buy all the permits you want and shoot several deer a year. With the old system, if you had a doe permit and shot a buck, you were still done. Just one deer a year. Once they were selling them the herd seems to be miraculously over populated.
I so love government.

Post by **Old Savage** » Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:14 pm

Wow, good work on that shooting. A friend and I did something similar at about 400 yds on a deer. He called me in Cali from Colorado with the info which I put into the computer program set up for his 25-06. He called back with “bingo”.

Not in the class with that 1000 yd stuff though.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:00 am

Re that Precision Rifle Shooting (PRS) competition, it's timed fire at steel targets at from 350 to 1200 yards. Competitors shoot fast, flat shooting calibers like 6mm Dasher or 6mm GT so they can see their hits....low recoil... in rifles weighing 25 to 35 lbs. They use a heavy 8 - 10 lb bag at the front, shooting off of bars, pickup beds, school buses, helicopters but the rear is generally unsupported. The shots are usually at five gongs, some stages requiring a hit on the first gong before going on to the next one. One of the stages I watched consisted of 5 gongs at 500 yards going from 10" down to 5" with a time limit of 12 seconds. It's friendly competition with other shooters calling shots or giving windage suggestions. It requires rapid scope adjustment and an intimate knowledge of one's bullet drop and crosswind drift.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:26 am

I have watched the guys at Bisley shooting at long range, there seems to be a good turnout so it's popular still over here.
The last range I was a member of only had a 200 yard range for rifle shooting and 75 yard for handguns.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 6:56 am

That's impressive Walt! I can't get over the times to complete the string.
My range is only 200 yards too. And quite honestly, I don't shoot that very often. I used to shoot that a lot off hand with my M1A back in the day. I have longer stretches at camp in the road, but just don't shoot it. The most "long range" shooting I did was with my pellet rifle when I was a kid. I used to enjoy messing with that.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 10:40 am

My shooting buddy and I went out to a range yesterday rather than just to our usual BLM shooting spot. The longest distance there is just under 200 yards as well. It's a pretty nice place with covered benches and I set a 12" gong out at 100 yards and an 18" gong at 195.

Years ago I used to be able to shoot 4 or 5 out of a 5 shot string on a 12" gong at 100 yards with some regularity with full power loads in my SBH but nowadays I have the shakes and twitches so bad that I was only able to make one hit out of five yesterday. Oh well, I still enjoy getting out there.

"The older I get, the faster I was".....I have to laugh at myself sometimes.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 11:38 am

I went out and bought a standard m94 carbine in .30-30 yesterday. I've always wanted one, I have had a m94 Trapper for decades and a Buffalo Bill commemorative for a couple of years. This new one was made in 1971 but it looks practically unfired. The action is pretty darned stiff and will take a bit of exercise. It looks to me like the prices on leverguns have come down substantially; I searched gun shops and pawnshops a couple of years ago and their prices were about double what I paid for mine.

I have a bunch of cast bullet loads made up and I'm ready to get out and shoot it.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 2:23 pm

You ain't alone Walt! I can't shoot like I used to. Mostly due to older eyes. Like you, however, a day at the range is always great.
As you may know, I have Winchesters of all shapes and sizes. They all are great, and each have their niche, but a 20" 94 carbine in 30-30 is probably one of the most balanced firearms ever made.

Happy Thanksgiving to you guys!

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 6:34 pm

I don't have any collectibles but in Winchesters I do have those m94s mentioned and a m94 Big Bore in .375, a couple of 9422s, one in 22 lr and the other in .22 mag, m61 and m62A pumps and two m70s, one in .30-06 and the other in .375 H&H. They are all genuine Winchesters, no clones.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 7:16 pm

Well Walt, it's getting so almost any Winchester is a collectible now. Ive never had a Big Bore 94. I remember when they came out. I've never had a 9422 either. Wish I would have gotten one of those. I do have a model 61 and a model 62. I had one pre-64 model 70, but sold it. I still have 2 post-64 model 70 XTR Featherweights. I really like those.
I have 73s, one 86, an 87, 92s, 94s, a 71, 64s, a 12, and some old Marlins.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 8:04 pm

Very nice, Jay!! That's a Very nice collection of Winchesters. What's your next favorite levergun after the m94s? Of course it depends upon what you're doing with them. I know I sometimes have a sudden interest in one type of gun or another and I mess with those for a while before moving on to another type.

Congratulations!

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu Nov 27, 2025 8:48 pm

I do that too! I kind if bounce around sometimes. I use the big guns the least. I like them, I just tend not to use them or hunt with them. The exception is that I did shoot my moose with my 71. It's a beautiful rifle, but just too much iron to lug around for deer.
For just shooting or woods loafing, I love the 92s. If I have to pick a chambering, it would be the 38-40. It seems to be way more consistent from gun to gun than 44 in my experience. Almost all the 92s and 73s you run into in Maine tend to be 38-40s. Unlike everywhere else, it was way more popular than 44 here. Just like the 38-55 was in the 94. While scarce in most places, it is common here. I currently own 5 38-55, but have had many more. Strangely enough, I've yet to shoot a deer with one. Same with 38-40 haha. I have shot deer with 44-40 though, but all in 92s. I had the chance to shoot a doe with a 73 in 44-40 a few years ago, but let her walk. I kind of wish I'd shot her now. I have a mix of rifles and carbines across most models, but just one early 86 rifle in 45-90.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri Nov 28, 2025 10:16 am

I had a Browning B92 in .357 years ago but one of my acquaintances, I can't remember who, relentlessly bugged me for it and unfortunately I eventually gave in and sold it. That's one I've always regretted selling. It was a smooth gun.

Several months ago I decided to finally buy a Rossi m92 in .45 Colt with 16" bbl, a gun that numerous people on this forum had been talking about. It's okay....I'm not really thrilled with it. Lots of sharp edges, unpolished parts that need attention. I did buy several parts from stevesgunz that improved sights and function a bit.

That's a funny thing about the .38-40 leverguns in your area. In my experience, I've seen them only rarely. That's probably due to the longer distances generally hunted here. We have more bolt actions, usually in 06. I think there are fewer lever actions but they are sometimes seen as truck guns....they're almost exclusively in .30-30. I've always had the feeling that everyone but old-timers consider them to be no more than toys.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Fri Nov 28, 2025 11:01 am

I have a Browning 92 in 44. I wish I had one in .357 too. They are quite scarce. My .357 is a Rossi, but an old Interarms marked one. It's a 20" and has a saddle ring. Mine isn't too bad, and looks pretty close to an original 92.
I think I have 7 38-40s. A 73 SRC, 3 92 SRC's, a 92 Eastern Carbine, a nice 1/2 magazine takedown 92 rifle (it also has a stock plaque), and an 1889 Marlin rifle with a 2/3 magazine.
I've posted a bunch of pictures over the years, but if there's something you want to see, let me know. I've had most of this stuff for years. I don't buy any old guns anymore. The internet killed it in places like here. There's no money so anything good leaves the state. Prices are crazy now too. Leverguns are still hunted with by many here. Back in the old days, however, it was universal.
Here is a picture of my my 38-40s, minus one SRC that is at my dad's. And another of my 38-55s minus one octagon rifle with a 4 digit number that's at my dad's. Notice that both of my Carbines are half mags. These are scarce as hens teeth, but short magazines were common here too. Old Sixgun used to flip over these 2 Carbines.
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Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Nov 29, 2025 7:13 am

Great pictures, Jay....thanks!

What is an Eastern carbine m92? Where in your pictures is it?

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat Nov 29, 2025 7:28 am

It's the 2nd from the right in the 92s.
Eastern Carbine refers to a particular configuration of 92 or 94 Carbine. They are a 20" barrel with a 2/3 magazine, no saddle ring, and a shotgun butt. The stock is the Townsend Whelen type with a fluted comb and either a steel or hard rubber buttplate. There is a 94 version on the wall behind my chair. It was made in 1920, and was my dad's first rifle.