Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
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- Streetstar
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Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
https://miamishooterssupply.com/product ... 10mm_auto/
No = not some stupid semi-auto PCC -- because do all you want -- with the LC carbines and such --- they are still lightyears behind the MP5 which is a 60 year old platform \\
-- the Ruger PC carbines OTOH -- not tactiool , kinda' homestead defense or plinking rigs with a takedown option -- pretty cool --- and i had one of the original PC-9's when they were new in 1997ish -- great guns - much like the under appreciated Mini 14 ------ but i was a poor college kid at the time and sometimes tuition and rent took the place of fun time carbines so i had to send my PC-9 down the road -- they were not takedowns then vut still pretty compact
but a levergun in 10mm?
How did they pull it off and i just posted a rant about "Nut N Fancy's" experience with a 38/357 Ruger/Marlin about a week or 2 ago
I love the idea because my favorite semi auto handgun caliber is 10mm --- but how is it going to chamber without a rim --- and not counting a custom rig with heavy massaging like one of the old guns chambered for .50 AE
Also --- isnt the 357 magnum significantly hotter than the 10? -- what is it doing? and if we cant get the 357 to cycle properly with all available loads from 38 SPL up to hot 180 grain Buffalo Boe 357's --- how is a semi-auto cartridge going to do
Love the concept but not sure if chocolate meeting peanut butter is going to hit right with this
I dig the S&W 610 but that needs moon clips to work ---- and --- the real problem with the .41 Magnum is the lack of internet and marketing presence because -- it trounces the 10 on every front --- and the 357 is there too in all -- ALL metrics except sectional density on the pill--
not discounting that importance
I have a questioning mind but will probably be pretty early on getting one of these anyway
No = not some stupid semi-auto PCC -- because do all you want -- with the LC carbines and such --- they are still lightyears behind the MP5 which is a 60 year old platform \\
-- the Ruger PC carbines OTOH -- not tactiool , kinda' homestead defense or plinking rigs with a takedown option -- pretty cool --- and i had one of the original PC-9's when they were new in 1997ish -- great guns - much like the under appreciated Mini 14 ------ but i was a poor college kid at the time and sometimes tuition and rent took the place of fun time carbines so i had to send my PC-9 down the road -- they were not takedowns then vut still pretty compact
but a levergun in 10mm?
How did they pull it off and i just posted a rant about "Nut N Fancy's" experience with a 38/357 Ruger/Marlin about a week or 2 ago
I love the idea because my favorite semi auto handgun caliber is 10mm --- but how is it going to chamber without a rim --- and not counting a custom rig with heavy massaging like one of the old guns chambered for .50 AE
Also --- isnt the 357 magnum significantly hotter than the 10? -- what is it doing? and if we cant get the 357 to cycle properly with all available loads from 38 SPL up to hot 180 grain Buffalo Boe 357's --- how is a semi-auto cartridge going to do
Love the concept but not sure if chocolate meeting peanut butter is going to hit right with this
I dig the S&W 610 but that needs moon clips to work ---- and --- the real problem with the .41 Magnum is the lack of internet and marketing presence because -- it trounces the 10 on every front --- and the 357 is there too in all -- ALL metrics except sectional density on the pill--
not discounting that importance
I have a questioning mind but will probably be pretty early on getting one of these anyway
----- Doug
- Streetstar
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Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
You know
screw it -- the market will decide on this one
You guys remember about 15-20 years ago when it was all about "Short Magnums"
----- the industry sold a whol;e bunch of short magnums that were the ballistic equivalent of Jack 'O Connors 270 -- honestly didnt make any sense while cartridges like the 7mm STW -- which actually had some advantages -- failed outside of handloaders
Im not in marketing --- i still get excited about new cool stuff but also have a dubious eye on some things ------ i hope the Ruger / Marlin collab has figured out the riddle on making a semi-auto pistol cartridge work in a levergun -- but shouldnt they perfect the rimmed cartridges first and leave the fancy stuff to Doug Turnbull , Hamilton Bowen and Gary Reeder ? (i think Bowen just retired but 000 )
screw it -- the market will decide on this one
You guys remember about 15-20 years ago when it was all about "Short Magnums"
----- the industry sold a whol;e bunch of short magnums that were the ballistic equivalent of Jack 'O Connors 270 -- honestly didnt make any sense while cartridges like the 7mm STW -- which actually had some advantages -- failed outside of handloaders
Im not in marketing --- i still get excited about new cool stuff but also have a dubious eye on some things ------ i hope the Ruger / Marlin collab has figured out the riddle on making a semi-auto pistol cartridge work in a levergun -- but shouldnt they perfect the rimmed cartridges first and leave the fancy stuff to Doug Turnbull , Hamilton Bowen and Gary Reeder ? (i think Bowen just retired but 000 )
----- Doug
Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
They must be serious as hornady has already designed a levergun specific load albeit short enough o.a.l. to work in others.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKz2Nhg20 ... p=2AFFkAIB
supposedly the 9mm works correctly.....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SmDMW9-cU ... E4NzMgOW1t
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKz2Nhg20 ... p=2AFFkAIB
supposedly the 9mm works correctly.....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SmDMW9-cU ... E4NzMgOW1t
Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
No blue no walnut non traditional length hard pass for me. If they want to do a ten why not do the best one and an important part of Marlin and Americas heritage the 38-40? I believe marlin named it
Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
The 1894 Trapper looks best with a straight stock. I don't get the manufacturers fascination with short, handy carbines sporting pistol grip stocks. If they made both styles, everyone would be happy. The 10MM chambering in the 1894 will hopefully pan out well. Awesome cartridge.
Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
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The market for leverguns is expanding. That's not 'exciting' to some of us older 'traditionalists', but it is a GOOD thing, in that the younger generation doesn't have the same reverence for walnut and blued steel that we do. They want easy/no maintenance, and are more interested in function and practicality even when it 'looks funny'.
My prettiest levergun is my 375 Winchester Big Bore, my most expensive one is my Big Horn Armory 89, but it is still 'traditional looking', but my most-often USED leverguns are my Marlin 1894SS in 44 Mag (for whitetail hunting in good weather), and my Marlin 1894 CST in 357 Mag with Ranger Precision aluminum stock and forend, shake-awake red-dot optic, and pistol-laser/light. It is even 'funnier looking' than the 10mm Ruger/Marlin referenced above.
I like having a levergun I don't have to pamper if I take it out in the rain or drop it in a snowbank if I slip and fall. My pretty walnut-and-steel ones need the darned forend taken off after such 'adventures', or else later on the magazine tube or front of the receiver rusts. Then it isn't so pretty anymore...
I notice in the advertisement that they reference Marlin's "buckhorn rear sight" but it sure looks like the photo shows a receiver-mounted sight of some sort...

"...Versatile Sights: Equipped with adjustable Marble’s semi-buckhorn rear and brass bead front sight for precise aiming in various conditions..."
The market for leverguns is expanding. That's not 'exciting' to some of us older 'traditionalists', but it is a GOOD thing, in that the younger generation doesn't have the same reverence for walnut and blued steel that we do. They want easy/no maintenance, and are more interested in function and practicality even when it 'looks funny'.
My prettiest levergun is my 375 Winchester Big Bore, my most expensive one is my Big Horn Armory 89, but it is still 'traditional looking', but my most-often USED leverguns are my Marlin 1894SS in 44 Mag (for whitetail hunting in good weather), and my Marlin 1894 CST in 357 Mag with Ranger Precision aluminum stock and forend, shake-awake red-dot optic, and pistol-laser/light. It is even 'funnier looking' than the 10mm Ruger/Marlin referenced above.
I like having a levergun I don't have to pamper if I take it out in the rain or drop it in a snowbank if I slip and fall. My pretty walnut-and-steel ones need the darned forend taken off after such 'adventures', or else later on the magazine tube or front of the receiver rusts. Then it isn't so pretty anymore...
I notice in the advertisement that they reference Marlin's "buckhorn rear sight" but it sure looks like the photo shows a receiver-mounted sight of some sort...

"...Versatile Sights: Equipped with adjustable Marble’s semi-buckhorn rear and brass bead front sight for precise aiming in various conditions..."
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Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
A lot of Ruger/Marlin lever actions come with Skinner sights now. That rear sight looks like a Skinner.
- Streetstar
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Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
There are almost as many opinions on proper stock style and finishes as there are levergunners As for me I actually like the looks of the Trapper length with a pistol grip stock --- and regarding the finish --- i almost think the grey/green laminate with stainless combo is classic in its own right -- kind of thought that ever since they introduced the XLR series 20ish years ago.
If the thing will run, it kind of fits the bill as a truck gun anyway - And with the tax on silencers reverting to zero in a couple of months (in the US ) , most of these are going to be wearing silencers , so with a non traditional cartridge the stainless and laminate makes sense rather than marketing a pretty one
If the thing will run, it kind of fits the bill as a truck gun anyway - And with the tax on silencers reverting to zero in a couple of months (in the US ) , most of these are going to be wearing silencers , so with a non traditional cartridge the stainless and laminate makes sense rather than marketing a pretty one
----- Doug
Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
Now that's tempting. It will easily match the 38-40 but have a slightly lower muzzle report.
It will headspace on the mouth, and I've never loaded for a semi-auto, so I don't know how finicky crimping would be.
It will headspace on the mouth, and I've never loaded for a semi-auto, so I don't know how finicky crimping would be.
Re: Ruger/Marlin 10mm ?
One plus I see is that this trapper will hold ten vs about eight for revolver cartridges, not a factor for hunting but a consideration for defense or plinking