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what is
DTAP/TDAP/TD VACCINE
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is it the kind that RFK likes? maybe live virus? idk
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is it the kind that screws with the victim's DNA ?
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is it, or is they the kind of vaccine i got 75 years ago, with true testing and accountability?
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the local pill dispenser has a note on the chart about what i'm 'missing' . . .
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my default so-far is "No" .. . ,
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These are 'inactivated' vaccines, but do involve giving the antigen ('dead' virus), an adjuvant (the thing that really triggers the immune response) and the preservative/diluent (the stuff the vaccine is preserved and carried in).

One can get immunity a bunch of ways:

1. get the actual infection - usually the best immunity, as you are exposed to ALL the parts of the virus/bacteria/parasite, and thus your immune system may be able to recognize it even if a number of its features change over the years. The disadvantage is the real infection could be dangerous.

2. get a mild version of the infection - theoretically if the infectious agent is wimpy but otherwise intact, you can get the good above without as much risk of infection complications. The problem is that the infectious agent might not be reliably rendered 'wimpy', and could cause a full-fledged infection.

3. get just a part of the infectious agent administered - here we limit the potential immune response, plus really have to add an 'adjuvant' - a chemical that 'stimulates' the immune system. Often the adjuvant (things like squalene, for instance) is more dangerous than the antigen.

4. generate part of the infectious agent internally - by co-opting the recipient's cells to make part of the virus (or whatever you're trying to immunize against), you can get an unpredictable amount of whatever part you are trying to reproduce, in unpredictable parts of the body, with unpredictable timing. These are the mRNA vaccines, and yes, through reverse transcriptase, they can indeed modify the host's DNA (although many viruses themselves can do this, so therefore so could the vaccines involving an actual virus or attenuated/wimpy virus).

5. get antibodies delivered to you for temporary use - breastfed babies get this in colostrum, adults get it from gammaglobulin or specific antibodies that can be synthesized. Antibodies can be given to viruses, bacteria, or even toxins.

One problem with all vaccines is the tendency to stimulate the antibody-producing part of the immune system, versus the cellular part, at least with anything that isn't "live".

Another is that they often combine several vaccines in one injection - less painful scary shots for kids that way, but more complexity and chance for problems, and harder to see which one caused a problem if something goes wrong.

The vaccines also are treated completely differently from 'pills' from a marketing and regulatory standpoint. Physicians (especially Democrats) are often biased to think that 'pills' are pedaled by greedy drug companies, and so we are assumed to be rampantly prescribing whatever pills the large-breasted drug rep tells us to, as long as the pizza she brought for lunch was good. YET those same physicians who virtue-signal their 'skepticism' of new pills (but still stare at the drug-rep boobs) will eagerly prescribe every vaccine the day it comes on the market, to each and every possible candidate. Pretty odd, when the 'pills' generally are safe, are NOT designed to cause any permanent effects, and usually any side-effects vanish if you discontinue the pills - whereas the vaccines are by their very nature designed to cause PERMANENT effects, and thus side-effects may also be permanent.

The moment the government had to 'shield' vaccine makers from liability, it became clear that they probably had something to hide.

I recommend reading "Turtles all the way Down" and "The Moth in the Iron Lung" - both about vaccines and politics.

To be clear, I actually DO recommend some vaccines some times to some patients, but to blanket-recommend all of them to all patients, is ridiculous.

My gut feeling is that for most people, the dT makes sense (not that sure about the 'P' part in adults), the MMR makes sense, and if there is exposure to much blood likely , the HepB makes sense. For all of these giving them too early increases coverage a few months on the front end, but they seem to wear off many YEARS earlier in exchange, and the smaller the child the more the side effects seem to happen. For old people with bad lungs, the highest-valence Pneumococcal vaccine available seems reasonable. I think a few folks should get the zoster vaccine (but liked the older version better), although having a rapid-response with valacyclovir may be as good, if feasible. I prefer sambucol to the influenza vaccines.

ALL THIS CHANGES if the patient has a compromised immune system though - and there are no easy answers there.

It will also be interesting to see how the 'autism link' comes out now that it is actually permissable to discuss it.

My gut feeling there is that the link, if there is one, may be mostly for the 1/3 of the population with a single nucleotide polymorphism of the methyl-tetrahydrofolate reductase gene (MTHFR SNP). Those of who have that don't detoxify things as well and it tends to play out in the nervous system. See Benjamin Lynch's many books and YouTube things on that topic - Benjamin Lynch on Methylation

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AJMD429 wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:02 pm .
These are 'inactivated' vaccines, but do involve giving the antigen ('dead' virus), an adjuvant (the thing that really triggers the immune response) and the preservative/diluent (the stuff the vaccine is preserved and carried in).


AND OF COURSE - "This is generic and general medical OPINION - so none should be construed as individual doctor-patient medical advice, because without an established doctor-patient relationship involving a thorough history, physical examination, appropriate testing, and individualized evaluation and treatment plan formulation, it is impossible to provide high-quality care. Therefore read and consider the opinions, the sources provided, and then integrate that into consultation with your own personal healthcare provider(s)..."
of course. you lost me on line 2. let me try to rephrase, is that shot in quotes above akin to the covid dna re-programmer? or is it akin to the vaccines that i got as a child. "they" also want to shoot me with a flue-shot, which i already won't get. ever.

thanks for posting on this, we're all constantly get earsful of rabbit drops, and i have no incentive to ingest them.
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The various diptheria, tetanus, and pertussis variations are all 'inactivated' and would NOT mess with the DNA by any known mechanism.

They are indeed the 'vaccines of our childhood'.

I think they are clearly way safer than the covid vaccines, not only because they don't use mRNA to make your cells produce antigen, but also because the choice of 'spike' protein was just a bad mistake - it is way to inflammatory (perhaps due to intentional modification) to use safely.
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Im steering clear of anything new myself. Got a buddy, a real big strong guy or was, now almost crippled by the second covid jab. he had a multi-millionaire dollar building business. First jab made him sick, dizzy, fainting spells for a time. Second jab, same thing, but the symptoms never went away. 2 years now since and he is still living with his mother. Lost everything, cant trust himself on stairs, let alone a ladder. He is trying to sue someone but might as well try take the devil himself to court it seems.
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mickbr wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:31 am Im steering clear of anything new myself. Got a buddy, a real big strong guy or was, now almost crippled by the second covid jab. he had a multi-millionaire dollar building business. First jab made him sick, dizzy, fainting spells for a time. Second jab, same thing, but the symptoms never went away. 2 years now since and he is still living with his mother. Lost everything, cant trust himself on stairs, let alone a ladder. He is trying to sue someone but might as well try take the devil himself to court it seems.
SAD, maybe the current GOV will remove their immunity from Law Suits. I was lucky and retired by them and refused the shot until Canada wouldn't let me drive south to AZ without a shot but I didn't take the Pyzer
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Never. Again. Unless by physical force.
BTW tetanus is good for 60 years.
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It is interesting to see the medical literature finally quit making ‘assumptions’ that always validate whatever Big Pharma tells us. I think this more objective, if not outright skeptical, approach, is going to eventually restore the trust in the medical community.

There is a long way to go, however, and when an industry ‘markets’ by misusing the credibility of physicians and pharmacists and nurses, and using FEAR rather than facts, it will be hard for them to restore trust.

Even the good-old ‘flu vaccine’ may not be as good as we all thought it was (actually I’ve known many physicians who refuse the vaccine themselves, instead using sambucol elixir prophylactically as well as therapeutically). This was first pointed out in the ‘mainstream’ Cochrane Review 15 years ago:

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/do ... .pub4/full

…and concurring more recently, though still in preprint, this study…

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 421v3.full
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Looks like now there are yet more confirmations that the mRNA vaccines did indeed penetrate into and change the actual DNA of the patient.

https://rumble.com/v6z2nmo-nicolas-huls ... etic-.html

We were told back in my medical school days that such a thing would be impossible, but more is known today, and it appears that during development of the mRNA vaccines, there were indications of this possibility that were buried, so as not to delay distribution, interfere with sales, or cause lucrative government contracts to be withdrawn. As usual, follow the money. Capitalism is GREAT, but ONLY when the government refrains from 'tipping the scales', and instead fulfills its obligation to enforce tort law and contract law and truth-in-advertising, or at least truth-in-medical-'studies'.
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Doc, In 1969 at Fort Dix as a new recruits we were immunized for eleven different diseases (cholera, influenza, measles, meningitis, plague, polio, smallpox, tetanus, diptheria, typhus, yellow fever) all at the same time; lined up and 'shot' with an apparatus that apparently used compressed air to inject this concoction into our arm. I have wondered since then what the potential long-term after-effects might be? I'm now 76 and in good health, but still the doubts linger. Would you weigh in on this subject? I do remember some of the recruits refused the 'shot' and were drummed out. Were they the smart ones?
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Pretty much every recruit, regardless of branch, went through the "shot line" in that era. The depending on where you were sent or in my case could be sent, you received quite a few others. None really bothered me with regard to reaction except two. First was Plague, it felt like my arm and shoulder had been smacked with a two by four for days. The other was Gama Globulin, it raised a lump on you butt that ached for it seemed weeks. The Gama Globulin was given again to an entire fire department when one of the Spanish civilian came down with hepatitis. turned out he was taking care of his sick wife on his off days and living in the firehouse while working. Fortunately none of the Americans developed it, but a couple other Spanish did.
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Here's some info on various vaccines in terms of risk/benefit:

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/newl ... -just-how?
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Wow it is finally being 'let out' instead of censored - https://rumble.com/v70b4pa-a-must-see-a ... share.html

Nice (but depressing) to see that what so many of us physicians have seen happen after vaccines is finally being acknowledged.

These books helped open the doors a bit, but the 'movie' format reaches more people.

https://www.amazon.com/Turtles-All-Way- ... 655981045/

https://www.amazon.com/Moth-Iron-Lung-B ... 717583679/
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Doc,
That video is really interesting to me. My wife and I have six children who are now between the ages of 29 and 46.
My eldest child is autistic, non verbal and lives with me now as a 100% disabled person. He also has several food allergies, gluten, tomatoes, and cucumbers to name a few. We thought when he was a toddler that he was developmentally delayed because his speech wasn't developing, delayed potty training, etc. One day when he was about 3, our neighbor offered him a cookie, and he said "cookie". That was the only time he ever said a word clearly. He now makes sounds that mean certain things, but there is no real language.
One daughter had rheumatoid arthritis as a child which has been in remission after years of treatment. She now has fibromyalgia.
Two of my daughters are lactose intolerant. That's odd because there was no history of this in either of our families.

I feel heartsick to think that these long term afflictions may have been caused by the childhood vaccinations that we dutifully administered to our children.
I certainly hope that the medical establishment takes the bull by the horns and conducts more retrospective studies like the Ford Foundation study comparing long term health of vaccinated and unvaccinated groups. I also hope that they would conduct complete scientific studies that include a placebo or control group to remove the cover they now have to keep from conclusively saying whether the science indicates vaccinations are good or bad for the long term health of the children.
This is certainly some heavy food for thought
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At least Kenya is pushing back and may be able eventually to allow big pharma to be sued when they commit fraud.

https://gatewayhispanic.com/video/kenya ... nded-bill/

Gates would be a good start...

And the FLCCC is pushing for transparency too...

https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19Cri ... -the-CDC:4

But for the short-attention-span folks out there in patient-land, THIS is the one single best exposure of the fraud in the vaccine industry:

----> https://rumble.com/v70b4pa-a-must-see-a ... share.html
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Had a Gran Mal seizure after 1 covid vaccine. Now at 80 TIAs and still at 3 major strokes. All from that 1 covid vaccine. In a QRF for the Army at one time, and was a voodoo doll for them. Only odd reaction to any vaccine was No Reaction at all to Hep B. 4 total series of Hep B, 2 boosters, and never showed any immune response. I do have some genetic issues, and am missing the enzymes 2c19 and 3a4 of the cytochrome P450 system. The vaccine for shingles has slowed down my total number of reactivations, but has not stopped them. Still get a quarter to half dollar sized spot once or twice a year. Oddly enough, they are always in the same general area. 3 family members that I know of have had strokes in recent years. All 3 got the Covid vaccine. One was in the middle of performing surgery when he had a stroke.
I am now on Brilinta, ticagrelor is the generic, and the TIAs are more of a 30 to 45 minute long annoyance than anything. Only thing I cannot do Left handed is sign my name. I was driving in to work last March and had a TIA. It wasn't until about 30 minutes after we had opened before anyone noticed that my Right arm was just hanging. I was doing everything Left handed. I kept up. It took about 90 minutes before the feeling came back in my right arm. About 60 prescriptions per hour. Most do not keep my arm numb that long. My sense of balance is now permanently in need of an overhaul.
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I can't imagine ever taking another shot of any kind ever again. I'll just keep the vit D levels up and give the old immune system a go at everything.

And Piller, you might have a go at your shingles spot with chlorine dioxide (I got mine from Amazon for about $30). I had the dang shingles trying to eat off the right side of my face plus in the ear and in the mouth and it was just getting worse by the day. 8 days of the chlorine dioxide knocked it down. My instructions were to do a 3-week treatment but after 8 days the shingles were nearly gone and I couldn't look another glass of chlorine dioxide in the face and quit a little too early. But you'd be tougher than me and finish the job I'd bet...
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Earl, it would be worth a try.
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Pierre Kory (of FLCCC fame) has a Substac where he writes articles on various health things. He did a series on Chlorine Dioxide -- apparently it is another of those cheap drugs that Big Pharma is willing to kill to keep word from getting out about. It can cure malaria in two days flat, which could cost them billions. But gets at a lot of other diseases. Anything that can kill the shingles is worth having around!

My instructions were -- three drops of A, three drops of B, let react 30 seconds to create the chlorine dioxide. Add a dabule of DMSO to improve action, 4 oz water, drink down. once an hour for 8 hours a day. Real PIA but worth it!
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Chlorine is in tapwater, and funnily enough, when I looked up chlorine dioxide, i saw some articles telling me that chlorine was toxic. Your point about Big Pharma wanting to keep it hidden is accurate. I did not look for toxicity, but was looking for availability. Typed in where to buy chlorine dioxide. The pushy articles against it had sponsors whom I am acquainted with from my job as a Pharmacist.
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Chlorine is toxic for sure, as a gas, or as HCl (hydrochloric acid), or chlorinated hydrocarbons of various sorts, but it is also in NaCl (table salt), and any number of other NON-toxic things.

I am not familiar with chlorine dioxide so can't comment on it specifically - but you can bet that if it is useful and safe, Big Pharma and the Government will be telling us it's nasty and toxic.
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