Chairmen of the Politically Incorrect

Post by **Old Savage** » Thu May 08, 2025 9:17 am

On another front, potatoes pancakes in a 50 yr old Wagner.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Fri May 09, 2025 9:29 am

Looks tasty OS..

My favourite Tee shirt is falling apart

so I've ordered it's replacement hope you approve Jay.

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OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Fri May 09, 2025 1:05 pm

Absolutely! The original is still the best! Unless you have a long trip on the highway ahead.

My old 59 wasn't much better in that regard. I still find the TJ the best balance of Jeep originality and drivability on modern roads.

Post by **Old Savage** » Fri May 09, 2025 2:39 pm

Drove those in the Army/National Guard. We did go on long convoys. One problem was drivers trusted them too much and flipped a couple. We also had 3/4 tons and 2 1/2 tons, one of those flipped, killed two guys and sent another 10 to the hospital.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri May 09, 2025 3:54 pm

My brother had a 59 CJ-5 years ago. I remember pulling a 2 horse trailer the 180 miles from the Silver City area to Albuquerque in the middle 60s. The weight of the two horses and trailer was like the tail wagging the dog. We made it but it was dangerous as heck. What a nightmare! Not something that little jeep was made for.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Fri May 09, 2025 9:51 pm

That's what is amazing about the old Jeeps. They didn't do anything that they weren't overloaded, overstressed, or over something. Yet they kept right on going.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sat May 10, 2025 12:29 pm

I never owned a Jeep but my series one LandRovers were fun and easier to find over here.
My thoughts on what some people call LandRovers nowadays

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Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat May 10, 2025 1:14 pm

I had a Land Rover dealer as a customer. The mechanics were well fed and kept food on the table for their families. They were grateful that the new Land Rovers were so unreliable. I was shocked to see that some had price tags exceeding $200K. The dealer was in Santa Fe where the source of wealthy people who cared about status symbols but not about quality seemed endless.

I always thought the old ones were pretty cool.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat May 10, 2025 1:17 pm

Haha that could be said about new Jeeps too!
The old series 1s were kind of scarce here, but they were around. I've never had the chance to drive one, but wouldn't pass it up.

They were an awesome rig. Just like the early FJ40 Land Cruisers.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:25 pm

Jay, what is a series 1?

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:46 pm

The old original model. They were about the same wheelbase as an early Jeep. Very square with an aluminum body. The grill was recessed in between the leading edge of the fenders. You always see them in movies of Africa or the middle east.
It's said that it's the first motor vehicle seen by one third of the earth's population. They were introduced in 1948 I think.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sat May 10, 2025 4:56 pm

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Yes they were born the same year as me and the first prototype was built on a Jeep chassis.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat May 10, 2025 5:19 pm

Okay, you were referring to Land Rovers. The '60s books by Joy and George Adamson and the movie, Born Free had lots of references to the old Land Rovers; the 24 volt electrical systems, all-aluminum bodies and the ability to cross deep rivers.

I enjoy watching you tube videos of flat fender Jeeps off-roading. Sometimes an early Land Rover joins in as well. My brother had an old CJ-2A Jeep for years and I sure wish he'd have let me know that he got tired of it; he sold it for $600. Darn it!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun May 11, 2025 8:11 am

When I was a gamekeeper I took my 1st wife and her sisters family down to the local pub in my stripped down 1950 Land rover as I pulled into the carpark we were cheered by a crowd of drinkers who came over to see the series one, not often did I get such a reception just going for a pint....

Sadly this ain't mine but it's how I like 'em ...........................in the summer

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gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun May 11, 2025 8:31 am

In the more usual work mode for English weather.

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OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sun May 11, 2025 1:23 pm

Pretty cool buddy!
I was taking the boys to school one morning in April, and it was snowing hard. As we pulled into the high school road there was a Jeep pulling in from the other direction. It had no top or doors and a girl was driving it.
I said, "You see that boys? THAT'S a girl you marry right there!"

I'm pretty sure my youngest boy did. His wife is a ticket for sure.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Tue May 13, 2025 6:47 pm

Little work in the garage this morning. My JD jet kit came for the DRZ yesterday, so I pulled the carb this morning and did some jetting work. Biggest PIA carb to pull I've ever done. On the plus side, it seems to be pretty spot on now.
Of course, I simply HAD to go for a ride. I ran out through the Burrill woods and the Notch. Then rode to camp to see if it's drying up.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Tue May 13, 2025 7:08 pm

Yeah, pulling that carb is a major job. I replaced the screws holding the bowl onto the carb with stainless steel allen head screws so I could loosen the clamps, rotate the carb and have access to the bottom of the carb and not mess up the stock screw heads.

It looks like the road to camp isn't even muddy. I'm glad you had a good ride. Thanks for the pictures.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Tue May 13, 2025 7:56 pm

I did the same thing to both the TW and the DRZ. As usual, 3 came out but one rounded out. Even with a JIS screwdriver. I got it by tapping it with a arrogant idiot punch.
I unbolted the top of the subframe and pulled it down and back to gain some room. It's still miserable.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Wed May 14, 2025 2:32 pm

I don't know about you guys but I'm having trouble logging on and when I do the forum freezes.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu May 15, 2025 4:47 am

Yeah me too. Hadn't been working at all for a day or so.

Hey, I just realized I couldn't call a tool by its name in my last post. You've got to be kidding me?
Guess I'm supposed to call it a "pointy punch".

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Thu May 15, 2025 10:20 am

I remember trying to write out p r i c k punch last year and was amused at the result. When a screw threatens to round out on me I put a dab of grinding compound on the screwdriver tip and it frequently allows me to remove it.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu May 15, 2025 7:48 pm

That's a good idea Walt! I've got some with needle nose vise grips, some with a punch, some by going a slot. Whatever gets it done Haha. I'll remember your trick though, and add it to the list.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sat May 17, 2025 1:40 am

I know a joke about "bastard files" but it would never get through the censorship....

At least the forum seems to be working correctly again.

Post by **Old Savage** » Sat May 17, 2025 9:33 am

Well Walt there was at one time an ongoing battle between I’ll say it the way I want to and a moderator who deleted two of these many page threads over the issue. OW and gk will recall that. Included was you might call a personality conflict between two members that no longer participate. The program changing various words like bastardized file was kind of a half measure attempt somewhat because a number of other members did not want to linked to a forum where that was taking place and some of that was through complaints behind the scenes that were not aired on the open forum.

Thinking back to Campfire and Gunroom there may have been half a dozen involved.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sat May 17, 2025 5:47 pm

It has been a lot quieter lately...... but I do miss the fun

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sat May 17, 2025 7:19 pm

Yeah. Oh well. In a world where nothing lasts, I'd say a thread sneaking up on 300 pages ain't bad.
It's certainly changed, but what doesn't? Our numbers have certainly shrunk. Gunny is still on the forum, but doesn't post in this thread since the whole 25-20 debacle. I didn't know if maybe he'd come back since Six left, but I guess not. At least he still talks to me, which is more than I get from Six.
I try and get here every day, but I must say it's been frustrating the last several days with the inability to log in or even bring up the page. Hopefully that is rectified.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun May 18, 2025 4:37 am

Yes Gunny still keeps in contact but Six hasn't responded to my pm. Oh well at least we few can continue to keep the politically incorrect movement going....it just proves who actually is the most politically incorrect amongst us...

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sun May 18, 2025 5:21 am

Haha yeah that's true! I'm glad we got Walt on board with us. Probably didn't do his reputation any favors. Perhaps we should have warned him, but he's in it now.

Six still posts on the Colt forum, but I've got no response there, or on FB either. I must of offended him somehow. I made several attempts with no response, so I just stopped.

Post by **Old Savage** » Sun May 18, 2025 12:32 pm

Well fellas, thanks for the updates. I have had little activity here but on this thread.

Saw there was a bombing in Palm Springs. I was right by there last week going to golf.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sun May 18, 2025 3:11 pm

Who would expect to get blown up playing golf? I guess you never really know.
Be careful out there.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sun May 18, 2025 4:33 pm

Back in 74 the IRA blew up two pubs in Birmingham one of which I used to drink in, 21 people died and many more were injured. My Irish Catholic friends were disgusted by that. As you say you never really know

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Sun May 18, 2025 4:36 pm

That was a close one buddy! Can you imagine the horror of getting blown up in a pub BEFORE you get served your pint?
Oh, the humanity!

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Mon May 19, 2025 1:18 am

When I first moved south in 89 findings a pub that served decent beer seemed impossible

that was so disappointing I nearly gave up going to pubs

still wouldn't blow one up though. Nowadays pubs are struggling to survive and every year more and more close down and it's rare I that I go to a pub now as the ones that are left are more like restaurants and coffee shops (don't get me started on frothy coffee), you can't even smoke which annoys me even though I gave up smoking years ago...

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon May 19, 2025 5:39 am

That's sad buddy. When I think of England, that's what I picture. Little pubs in a small village or in the countryside. Probably from watching An American Werewolf in London back in the day.

We have have a lot of knockoff Irish pubs here. Like everything, I'm sure if you've been in a real one, they are a sad joke. We have pub here in town. It's down on the river way up on a rock cliff and was a brewery way back in the towns infancy. It's a really cool looking place.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Mon May 19, 2025 2:13 pm

Jay that does look mighty cool

I love riverside pubs usually with a beer garden where you can sit outside and enjoy your beer. I used to live near a pub on a Hampshire chalk stream with really big Trout that learned to take titbits that the folks threw in just to see them.

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OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon May 19, 2025 2:26 pm

Cool place GK!
The Old Mill pub has a deck around the 2 sides toward the river. It's nice to sit out there in the summer. The inside was left as it looked in the old days. The old post and beams are exposed. It encompasses 2 floors and is open in the middle. Very cool old building.
When we had the big flood back in 87, the lower right corner was taken out. The bricks were patched back in and in a good picture you can see the different color of bricks.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Tue May 20, 2025 10:40 am

The Old Mill pub sounds perfect and in a nice spot too.

I took KirkD to a similar but much smaller pub when he came over from Canada, I arranged a little fishing for him on a chalk stream near Winchester.

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The river Itchen is just behind the pub.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Tue May 20, 2025 7:42 pm

Jay, I just don't believe you offended Six any more than any of the rest of us. Heck, maybe it was me...

We don't have any quaint old pubs here. Or I don't know about them because I don't drink away from home. I'm just an occasional tequila drinker which I have to be careful with anyway because I'm diabetic. But, my wife and I sometimes have a Sunday lunch at an old 1880's saloon in the semi-ghost town of Cerrillos. The saloon is small, it has half a dozen wooden tables, creaky wood floors, a pot bellied stove which is their only heat source, the old bar, brass spittoons. It's called the Black Bird and it has a couple of black birds looking down on the patrons from the high windows. It's in the village where a good portion of the Young Guns movies were filmed.

I just got back from a week's trip to visit our kids and grandkids. The first leg was to Oklahoma City where I spent a couple of days. It's about 550 miles and I left my wife there to help our daughter with her new baby. From there I drove the 300 miles down to the Ft Worth area where our son and his wife and baby live. Our son took me to a Precision Rifle competition where he participated and I've gotta admit I was impressed with the shooters and their guns 'n gear. Cool stuff! From there it was another 600 miles back home and I'm tired of driving.

Our son and his wife and baby in front of the Black Bird saloon last December.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Tue May 20, 2025 7:55 pm

That's a cool place GK! My son checked out a pile of em over there. Not sure if I'll make it there, but if I do you can show me around.

That saloon sounds pretty neat Walt! Sounds like you had a great trip and time with family. Nice picture of your son and his family. Yeah, that is a pile of driving!

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Tue May 20, 2025 8:05 pm

Thanks, Jay. Yeah, that little town is all original. It's an old mining town and nothing is restored. Apparently there wasn't a really significant amount of gold or silver taken out of the local mines. Supposedly there was a lot of underhanded stuff, like sinking a test shaft, sneaking in and planting some high grade ore and then selling the claim to some unsuspecting sucker that was going on there.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Tue May 20, 2025 9:46 pm

Haha that's cool! Well, unless you was the one who bought the salted mine!
Hopefully, I'll get back out there at some point. Like to take some time and look around.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Wed May 21, 2025 12:01 am

No, no one offended me and I have nothing against anyone. It’s that I’m smart to know when my words mean nothing, whether they are goofy (expected) or something that took me 50 years to learn. Zero appreciation from any member except a few from you guys. I don’t see that on the Colt Forum so I figured I’d take my knowledge there. Spend a half hour writing a detailed answer here to a question and the know nothings can’t even say “thank you”. I’m right about foreign guns from Italy or S America as in J.U.N.K….you have to go through a lot of posts on the Colt Forum to see any mentioned,..lots…

On the other hand I finally snagged a Colt SAA 32-20 4 and 3/4” first gen made in 1901….perfect bore…1.5” at 25.

Nothing personal….I've just moved on and plan to keep it that way…006

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Wed May 21, 2025 4:00 am

Walt, I'd swap my English pubs for your Saloon anyday

nice photo.
Six, good to hear from you, I respect your decision to move on and can understand why but here on the thread Jay started "Chairmen of the Politically Incorrect" you fitted right in even the admin could see that

if you no longer wish to engage us in conversation the least you could do is to keep posting photos of any new acquisitions like that beautiful Colt 32/20 just so that we know you are well and not collecting J.U.N.K....

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Wed May 21, 2025 8:33 am

Great to hear from you, Dr Six! Beautiful .32-20 you found. What a beauty! Thanks for the picture.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Wed May 21, 2025 6:32 pm

Congratulations on you new Colt. Very nice.

Man, it's been cold, windy, and rainy here. Even still, I thought I'd take a ride today cause it wasn't raining. I had a good 60 mile ride, but I thought I'd freeze! Wore motocross boots and pants, a shirt with a chamois shirt over it, and my flecktarn camo German field jacket with lined motocross gloves. My feet were a little cold, my hands were numb, and I was so chilled it took all afternoon and 2 cups of coffee to warm up.

In the summer we shut the thermostats off in the house. The one upstairs was off, but we forgot the one down cellar. I went down to the gun room yesterday and it felt warm. I felt the radiator and it was hot. I checked the thermostat and it was on but set at only 62 and it felt warm down there.

Maybe we aren't going to have a summer. It's happened before, back in the 1800s. It snowed 4" in July, nothing grew, and many people left the state.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Wed May 21, 2025 7:45 pm

Back when I had just bought my Kawasaki KLR I did stuff that I'd never do these days. I was so enthused that I rode in really cold weather (0°) just for the experience. I remember riding up to Taos, about 125 miles to the north, stopping at a gas station/convenience store for a cup of coffee of which I spilled about half cuz I was shaking so badly. I rode five hundred miles at a time on that bike, my butt so sore that I had to lay on the seat. I rode into places where a heavy, mostly street-oriented bike had absolutely no business. I hauled assss down rutted dirt roads knowing that the bike had a reputation for front-end washout and found numerous times that it was true. But, I never broke any bones coming off of it and generally really enjoyed it. Quite an adventure.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Wed May 21, 2025 8:16 pm

Hahaha! Zero!? Well you got me beat buddy. As far as the riding though, I've been there and done that! Probably still do a little if that. I'm still learning the DRZ. I get onto it now and then. Last week I spun out in a 90 degree gravel road turn. I had the bars turned to the lock and it weren't near enough. I managed to hold it up and ended up at the edge if the road faced back the other way.

I find a good part of the time I'm listening for noises and trying to identify them. Its a noisy little engine, but I'd heard they are.
For that matter, the TW is a little noisy too.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu May 22, 2025 3:31 am

The weather here has been exceptionally dry and sunny but the wind from the East at times cuts right through you , makes me glad I don't have a bike as I would be tempted to explore my new surroundings and my old bones can't take the cold like they used to.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Thu May 22, 2025 7:02 am

It's 45 degrees here and overcast. Kind of damp and crappy out. Just doesn't want to seem to snap out of it.

My mother in law fell and broke her hip Sunday. She is 85 and lives alone. I didn't go to work Sunday cause they had to do a hip replacement on her. I figured for sure this would be it for her being alone in that old house.
She is back there now. My sister in law is staying with her, but she is doing quite well. Tough old bird.