Ruger 70906 Trapper 30-30 (Marlin 16" SS Laminate *No Rail)

[348win]

Who's got one

Anxiously awaiting reviews

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70906/

Ultimate truck gun for getting stuck in the rain????
Stainless is nice.....

Is the rear peep windage adjust, as in knocked left and right if that bolt is not tight enough.....potential risk/flaw I see

[ywaltzucanrknrl]

They come with a Skinner rear sight.

[348win]

Ya looks like that Skinner sight takes a pinch bolt

Sight has endmill slot for windage = loosen screw to adjust windage?

That's why I see potential risk to knock out of adjustment

[348win]

Ya looks like that Skinner sight takes a pinch bolt

Sight has endmill slot for windage = loosen screw to adjust windage?

That's why I see potential risk to knock out of adjustment

[Grizz]

Ya looks like that Skinner sight takes a pinch bolt

Sight has endmill slot for windage = loosen screw to adjust windage?

That's why I see potential risk to knock out of adjustment

a little rust usually keeps em tight

[ikocher]

I've been wondering if the 16 inch barrels were good enough for 150 yards. I had been holding out for a blued steel version with a threaded 20 inch barrel but if I can find the actual velocities for 170 grain loads from a 16 inch, I can put together a good idea of if the Trapper lengths are worth anything. I know the 16 inch barrels in 357 and 44 are great but I've been wondering about the 30-30 for a few years now.

[J Miller]

Old Savage posted a bunch of chronograph work with the three common barrel lengths of the 30-30 a bunch of years ago, a search might find the posts.

Joe

[ywaltzucanrknrl]

This is the one topic I found but it doesn't have 16" info.

viewtopic.php?p=290440&hilit=30+30+chro ... ge#p290440

[JimT]

We shoot 500 yards and more with handguns. Why would a 16" rifle be a problem? A couple years ago I watched a teenage girl shooting targets at near 1100 yards with a handgun.

[ywaltzucanrknrl]

I own plenty of 16" barreled rifles, they are what I use the most. I can't speak for ikocher.

I picked up one of the new Marlin Trappers but haven't shot it yet. If the weather is decent this weekend, I may compare it with a chrono to another barrel length. My past experience with that is that the velocity difference will depend quite a bit on how fast or how slow of powder I use. But I've had some real surprises with barrels in the past---there seems to be a lot more variables than just barrel length and the powder used.

My opinion of the new rifle is that it's very nice. I like the sight on it although I'd prefer a front bead. The heavy barrel kind of put me off, but like Old Win said, it may be Ruger/Marlin's idea to help the balance. Time will tell how I like it.

I'm not worried about the sight getting bumped, although that happens, like Grizz said and I like his sense of humor, it will likely stay put once I get some saddle scabbard crud and rust on it.

I shouldn't say I bought the rifle, my wife actually did. But I think she will be ok with me using it....HA!

[JimT]

I shouldn't say I bought the rifle, my wife actually did. But I think she will be ok with me using it....HA!

I would say you have a good woman looking after you.
They are a real treasure!

[Grizz]

We shoot 500 yards and more with handguns. Why would a 16" rifle be a problem? A couple years ago I watched a teenage girl shooting targets at near 1100 yards with a handgun.

bet her hands weren't shakey . . .

[ywaltzucanrknrl]

Nice weather here this weekend and I went out and shot some 30-30's. And for my curiosity and for a comparison for Ikocher I ran the velocity in each rifle. The load I used was a 150 Speer FP with 32 grains of AA2460 and a R-P 9 1/2 primer. I used a Garmin chronograph.

I did shoot the new Marlin Trapper and I like it, except for one real big to me issue. Like I mentioned it comes with a Skinner sight which I have on several other rifles and I like. This Skinner has a cut around the rear hex head receiver screw that allows for windage. In my opinion a good and secure way to set the windage. The front sight is not adjustable for windage. Anyway, the big issue has really nothing to do with the Skinner sight, but the fact that even with the windage adjusted as far to the right as it would go, it was still about 4 inches to the left at 100 yards. To me that indicates an issue with the sight alignment from Ruger---either the action and barrel are a bit off center or the sight holes are not correctly aligned. Either way, I'm sending it back to Ruger for them to look at it. Other than that, the rifle is very accurate and in my opinion works great. One thing I like on it that I don't have on the other 30-30's is the rubber recoil pad----not so much because of recoil reduction, but because it helps to keep the rifle from slipping in my shoulder---it stays in place better under recoil and also doesn't move as much when I run the lever with the rifle shouldered.

So, here are some velocity comparisons. The Marlin Dark rifle has a 16 1/2" barrel with a 8" suppressor.

New Ruger Marlin Mayodan Trapper clocked an average of 2216 fps with the above load.
The Marlin Dark clocked 2219 fps with the above load.
A Winchester Model 64 with a 24" barrel clocked 2349 fps with the above load.
A Marlin 336A with a 24" barrel clocked 2277 fps with the above load.
Each was 5 shots.

AA2460 is kind of in the middle for acceptable 30-30 powders and I would think that powders on the faster end (say Rl7) would likely produce closer velocity spreads whereas powders on the slower end (say LeverEvol or 4320) might produce higher spreads----just a guess.

FWIW, extreme spread was lowest in the Model 64 at 29 fps while the spreads for the other rifles ran near 50 fps.

To me, the difference in velocities is academic----it doesn't matter to me for what I do with the rifles. I was a bit surprised the spread wasn't higher.

[348win]

oof

4" to right to POA @ 100yds w rear sight windage moved to max one side is ROUGH man.
I wouldn't be very happy either!

Quite a quality control issue there