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Jim mentioned preferring books to the movies, which I mostly agree with, but what about the movies that get the book exactly right?
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I'll start with John le Carré's The Russia House
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The book is from Carre's mastery of time travel, overlapping sequencing, and no surplus verbage.

The movie features Sean Connery, Michelle Pfeiffer and Roy Scheider, and was shot on location in the Soviet Union in 1989. [wiki quote].
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The movie is a masterpiece that doesn't fudge or exaggerate, that understates where it builds drama, that uses the MUSIC score to transition sections of the story, that brings out the best from the actors. For people who lived through those times, everything rings true and pulls me into the story.

What about you'all ? I bet you have some choice favorites, dot dot dot
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John Ford’s “The Searchers” came astonishingly close to the novel by Alan Le May written two years earlier, in 1954. It had to help that Le May co-wrote the screenplay.
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I'm a big fan of reading books also... the paper kind, I leave the screen to searching for info and doing stuff, conversing with family & friends where phone calls involve international rates. Really good stories can almost completely absorb me. If the story is really good, I can completely block out everything around me. And almost nothing bothers me... I'm watching the story unfold in my head... For a movie to be really good, the screenwriter, director & producers really have to have to match what the "movie" was like inside my head before I'll say they got it right. Tom Cruise failed in his two "Reacher" attempts... but the series hit a home run. The difference lies solely in casting the title role. Great acting, superb cinema-photography, etc. just can't overcome stature.
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I much prefer good books & reading, in fact if I've got good reading I won't hardly turn tv on. My favorite easily is "The Frontiersman" by Alan Eckart. May not spelled his last name right? But he wrote an entire series of books, "The Winning of America Series". They basically all about the Pre-Revolutionary War-Wilderness Wars-French & Indian Wars time thru mid 1800's.
The Frontiersman centered around Simon Kenton and the Shawnee Chief Tecumseh, and the settling of Kentucky. Especially interesting to me I know being from Ky. But it's in depth researched and dramatized facts & dates. Plenty about Boone, George Rogers Clark, William Henry Harrison, all those people and the first Forts in KY and settlements. I couldn't put the book down, and soon after read it again!
But it's full of facts little known and described in a way that visually brings it to life! I loaned it out to several 10 years ago never got it back. Will probably get another to read it again.
But very few, including me before, know of Simon Kenton? In a nutshell, almost makes Boone look like a boyscout, and Boone in fact was better than being an Indian than the Indians! Kenton factually saved Boones life outside the gates of Boonesboro. But if that time period interest anyone, I highly recommend it!
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DD: I ended up with a copy of “The Frontiersman” as a junior high kid thanks to the old Outdoor Life book club. When I finally read it I was spellbound
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It's by far my favorite! I've been meaning to get few his others from that series but never have. Couple I remember, "That Dark and Bloody River" referring to Ohio R, "The Wilderness War" n "Age of an Empire", plus few others I can't remember? But I believe I'm correct on those I named.
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Bill in Oregon wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:31 pm John Ford’s “The Searchers” came astonishingly close to the novel by Alan Le May written two years earlier, in 1954. It had to help that Le May co-wrote the screenplay.
Thanks Bill, i am not completely alone in the universe after all . . . LOL
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The remake of True Grit was much closer to the original book in both dialogue and content than the John Wayne one ... though I admit I am partial to John Wayne.
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Another great book I read about 5 years ago that I'm sure most on here would really enjoy, "Alaskan×Yukon Trophies Won and Lost", by G.O. Young. A Dr Evans from Texas, a man named Snyder I believe a lawyer from Illinois?, and Young, correspond by letters, none acquainted, and put together a trip to Alaska. They meet for first time at I think Seattle, and go by ship to a port city, Cordova, Alaska, then by train to McCarthy. There they're outfitted and by a guide and plenty help, horses and packtrain inland, crossing over in B. Columbia. 100's miles, hunting all the way. This is I believe in the late 1920's. At their farthest point, the plan is to build two boats-rafts, to float down river back to coast before ice out! The guide us top notch, does it regularly there, even lives along the way! But rafting out they encounter many dangers, even flip and loose all their trophies, almost their lives, barely making it out! But I believe the Dr. Evans who planned it all, and found the other two by want adds for partners by newspapers, is already old, and not long after dies from hardships of the trip! But Young, who wrote the book is youngest, and from Charleston, W. VA.
But the book is written years later, i believe early 40's, from Youngs journal he wrote daily along the way. Plenty pics but poor quality cameras and film then! But it's an outstanding read! I got it from Wolfe Publishing-Rifle Magazine. It's a return and read over book!
Correction, I believe G.O. Young is from Huntington, W.Va, but I'd have to reread to be sure.
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Here's a pic of G.O. Young and a goat he took with is 30 Newton Rifle
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The Mr Snyder was in McCarthy waiting for the other two to arrive, having been there since spring bear hunting. But the way the trip is done, laid out, I got to believe they where eat up with the fever from having read Whelens "Red Letter Days in British Columbia ", at least it's my guess? But they they obviously weren't as ready as they thought!
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It sounds like a good read. People still build rafts up the Yukon and float out. It sounded, on an Alaska hunting forum, like some folks just meander and live on the river in a tent or some kind of platform. One of those outfits may have been a guide, the ubber of the ukon ? It is still possible to get some little ways from heavily trafficked thoroughfares and be entirely undetected from the river. Of course the aluminum mosquitos see a lot more.
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Aluminum mosquito :lol:, excellent description! I haven't been to Alaska-Yukon, but I spent a week aprox 400 miles up into Ontario, fishing in 1983, and even there the mosquito where beyond description! Only place I've been it's equal or maybe worse is Roanoke Island-Outer Banks of N. Car.. it's basically a narrow strip sand dunes couple hundred miles along the coast, backwaters between them and mainland=mosquito factories!
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I watched "The Outlaw Josey Wales" again yesterday and then fell down the rabbit hole, reading about what a terrible person CE is. My enjoyment of his work has been severely diminished.....not a nice guy....at all
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Kinda same here as to CE! Always loved his movies, especially Josie Wales. Then couple years ago I found out he's about impossible for the people around him, worked with him, to like or even get along with! I didn't know if my info was for sure right, but sounds like you're confirming it again!
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I like books with lots of pictures, so I don't have to read much. Ha
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Well a new topic kinda? Have you'll ever watched the YouTube videos of I believe, capandball.com? I found em, idk year or so ago, but they're most all interesting. But to me he did, Hunting with a Win 73, a Mid 86 wild boar hunt, and another on the 38-55. But on couple he demonstrates casting lead bullets in an old Ideal Reloading Tool. Man I loved this, I'd seen these in books and magazines but never demonstrated. What an ingenious complete reloader! I've had a Lee Loader for long time, but now, I'd love to find an Ideal or Winchester for the 30-30! I'm sure they made em? But he's in Hungary I think, and does a really good video, obviously loves our old Winchester's!
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Crazy Horse wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:59 am I like books with lots of pictures, so I don't have to read much. Ha
and no big words either :wink:
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Drawdown wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:49 pm Well a new topic kinda? Have you'll ever watched the YouTube videos of I believe, capandball.com? I found em, idk year or so ago, but they're most all interesting. But to me he did, Hunting with a Win 73, a Mid 86 wild boar hunt, and another on the 38-55. But on couple he demonstrates casting lead bullets in an old Ideal Reloading Tool. Man I loved this, I'd seen these in books and magazines but never demonstrated. What an ingenious complete reloader! I've had a Lee Loader for long time, but now, I'd love to find an Ideal or Winchester for the 30-30! I'm sure they made em? But he's in Hungary I think, and does a really good video, obviously loves our old Winchester's!
There was a link to this guy (in Hungary) here, not all that long ago. This Fall (24) sometime ?
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