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Bryan Austin

Dumped Youtube

The 44-40 videos are now hosted here: https://www.full30.com/channel/44-40-cartridges

Bryan Austin

Thanks Scott!!!

Tested the chronograph with the revolver first. 1,007fps from 6 ft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf0JxYdCoFk

Then backed up the hill to the bench for the 265 rifle check.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuAHq7cuxYQ

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Chronographed load out to 265 yards this morning. 951fps avg!

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Very well done. Now - try this - load the same bullet with 6 grains of H4227 as a priming and then 32 grains of 3F black powder over the top of it. Seat your bullet to the cannelure as you would normally (and it will be compressing the powder about 0.2 inch) and give it a light crimp. I don't know ...

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Thanks Guys!!

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I know I have unloaded on posts recently but after being cooped up for nearly a year, it has been so much fun to be able to get back out to the Range. Even with the high costs, I have enough stock left to shoot a little more. I did have to get some powder and I managed to get some primers from the p...

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This is just a lot of fun!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMjwJMXwje0

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1950, July 15th - Ballistics of Western-Winchester Cartridges dated July 15th, 1950. K-Code: K4412C (Winchester), K1372C (Western). Some loads still used Sharpshooter powder till 1960. RIFLE VELOCITY: 1,320fps, @ "muzzle" 1,160fps @ 100 yards, 1,050fps @ 200 yards, 990 fps @ 300 yards. Ene...

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I run this in a 66 with a 19 inch barrel and it chronos 1040 fps.

Replicates original Henry velocities

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3leggedturtle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:41 am
Bryan Austin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:05 am
3leggedturtle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:52 am Nice, you are convincing me to go with a 44wcf. I have plenty of RL7 powder too. Todd/3leg

Meant to say, convincing me to get a 44wcf over a 38wcf. Passed on a really nice 24" 38 m92 and been regretting it ever since.

Ah man!

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Here is what the POA's should look like on a life size deer. 200 Yards - center POA (99% of hits should be above and in a 6" group at POA) 100 Yards - POA is at the feet!!! 214654870_1842059209307987_7524157657852776311_n.jpg 250 Yards POA - above head 225 Yards POA - Head 200 Yards POA - cente...

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Nice, you are convincing me to go with a 44wcf. I have plenty of RL7 powder too. Todd/3leg :mrgreen: Bryan, Nice looking 1873 rifle and scope setup. Are you still loading all your 44/40 cartridges on your Green Machine? From the videos it looks like that setup does a good job of 'reaching out there...

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Ray came through for us. I had no idea it would be quite that high. But 1150 fps with a slug that heavy is certainly respectable. I have shot up to 16 gr of 2400 in this gun, but it was not as accurate with the bullet I was using as the 7.5 gr Unique load. Faster burning pistol powders seem to work...

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Hard to beat the accuracy of the 44 Special

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Made a new video from today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzhW6nDLhkw

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There are quite a few replicas out there.

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Youtube video 200 and 150 yards. A bit crude but it was fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtWuk2bgdBo

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I finally got the gopro footage downloaded and reviewed. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was. 33 shots fired, 28 hit paper, 17 hit inside the 8.5 x 11 notebook paper and 19 should have put meat on the table...IF I aim right for that first shot!! 15 shots fired at 200 yard target. First 6 shots are ...

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You are doing some good shooting there. If I had to go 8 months without shooting I would go insane! I assume from the number that your bullet mould is from Accurate? I too use Reloder 7 (25 gr.) in my 44-40's with Accurate mold #433205C. I am a bit puzzled as to why you did not want to adjust your ...

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Sure looks like every shot would have brought home the meat. Does the RL7 burn cleanly ? No, RL7 leaves unburned grains in the barrel. Mostly seems to be why folks don't like it. I have two gopro videos I am trying to get loaded in my computer. Gopro wont let me download thier desktop app, so I am ...

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I know I got some splain'n to do! Deer target shows hits from 150 and 200 yards with the 44-40. It took me 33 shots to figure out how to place the 18 shots on target. When I can sort out the video footage from three iphones and a gopro, I'll try to list the shots in order...but the iphone target vi...

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I finally got a chance to hit the range today after a long eight months. I tried making a video but failed miserably. My last shot prior was back in October 2020 when I was shooting at 200 yards. Before a shooter can go to the 250 yard range, they have to shoot three shots inside the black diamond a...

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Large frame revolvers do have the advantage of mitigating recoil and being able to handle heavier loads as well as light loads. Nothing new there to any of us on Leverguns. I personally find most revolvers to be more accurate than semi-autos. OK, my Heritage .22 is not very accurate. That is correc...

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For revolver use.... Unique has given me best results for 44-40 published loads. Mid-range rifle powders like 4227 and 2400 don't perform quite right at the 44-40's published max pressures. However, with the right firearms and the correct pressures for the powder used, it performs very well at 100 ...

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Sorry folks, been real busy with work. Most of John's work has been spot on when replicating original loads for the 44-40 and trying to replicate 4 Henry ballistics with the 44 Henry using Henry loads in the 44-40 cases. In Winchester's 1875 catalog the first 44 WCF cartridges appeared. Winchester s...

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There is a chance that there could be a crack in the dovetail area. Check it real good. Planning on magnafluxing it before preceding, I wire brushed it and looked through a loop didn't see anything . But the bulge is a lot deeper under dovetail. Nothing else its a good pattern for making a new barr...

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There is a chance that there could be a crack in the dovetail area. Check it real good.

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Carlsen, this is (scratching my head interesting) to me cause I'm new to reloading the 30-30. And I have "Red letters days in B.C." here have read it 25 times, and all along I thought Whelen meant the primers. So he put 6 grains smokeless powder underneath 30+ grains blackpowder? I would'...

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40gr by weight of this particular batch of Swiss FFg. Filled, tap settled and then compressed with a compression die. Starline Brass

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I have the earlier Uberti 44 Mag Buckhorn with a 44-40 cylinder. Here is a video shooting HV loads at 100 yards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s771FOfv0l8

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Don't forget John Kort's 300 meter shots with black powder 44-40 loads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbxvlQUkQfU

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piller wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:58 pm At 200 yards? That is still within the kill zone of a normal sized deer.

Bingo, my point exactly!

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This was my last trip shooting

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Anyone who thinks they can just buy a firearm and suddenly can become an expert without the practice is spending too much time in fantasy land. maybe so but i once gave a British tourist a chance to shoot my 45/70/525gr guide gun at a 100 yard gong. he had never fired a gun in his life. i started h...

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Doc Pardee just prior to 1875 using Winchester's new Model of 1873 chambered for the new 44/100 (44WCF). Open sites of course! His letter was published in Winchester's 1875 catalog. Ballistics-X_8-17-19-DocPardee.jpg My 110 yard target using an Uberti 73' scoped and Reloder 7 smokeless powder with a...

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Here is an example of the spreadsheet. Kind of neat to watch all come together...

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Here is the 2016 150th. We know the year but the code tells us the day and month too.

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Guys I need your help again. I am compiling a data sheet of all Winchester Western 44-40 ammo boxes from 1928 to now at the below link. The only way I can finish this list is to get help from the 44-40 community. The ink stamp code is on the inside of one of the flaps. The data can be seen here: htt...

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I am continuing to add examples to this doc. If anyone wants to contribute, I'll take all the help I can get!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1905899731

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I forgot, I have good results with the 240gr bullet at 100 yards or less. If you want to go further, you may need a 1:20" twist rather than the 1:36" twist barrel.

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I've heard that the brass is thin and damages easily during reloading so I'm wondering how well it holds up to repeated reloadings. How many standard pressure (13,000 CUP or under) 200grn loads will the brass typically survive? Well, it is thin and it can cruch if you don't use the correct dimensio...

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Uncertain how far you plan to shoot, but I can tell you that a 200 gr. SWC in the .44-40 in my Marlin 1889 and 1894 rifles will stop deer easily at 1300-1400 fps. No reason to push them any faster, unless you planned to maybe shoot further than 100 yd. shots. One shot kills through the shoulder had...

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Uncertain how far you plan to shoot, but I can tell you that a 200 gr. SWC in the .44-40 in my Marlin 1889 and 1894 rifles will stop deer easily at 1300-1400 fps. No reason to push them any faster, unless you planned to maybe shoot further than 100 yd. shots. One shot kills through the shoulder had...

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No reason to push them any faster, unless you planned to maybe shoot further than 100 yd. shots. Bingo! The 44-40 is good much further than 100 yards when loaded correctly, even with 1,300fps loads. 700fps is enough to penetrate the broadside of a horse. More speed = less trajectory, more energy re...

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Original black powder velocities were 1,325fps, slowed to 1,245 by 1900 then back to 1,325 with Smokeless rifle powders in 1894. As the powders that made the 44-40 perform were discontinued, performance dropped. Leave the pistol powders for pistols and mouse fanny burp cowboy loads. Switch to rifle ...

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There are so many variations and loads, I decided to just stick with the powders. For details, I have much information and photos on google docs here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...cnEM1lv6tCWBJsCOB8vLIDOIg/edit#gid=1905899731 For extreme details, visit the 44-40 website: https://sites.googl...

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The .44 may be a pistol caliber BUT the 44-40 is a rifle cartridge that is typically used in revolvers. Stop confusing the difference.

The 44-40 loaded properly for use in rifles will outperform any of those pistol cartridges at 200 yards.

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Does not necessarily matter. The 44 Magnum was designed for revolvers, not rifles. yeah, it does matter - pressure is pressure So take a good look at the photo, do you seriously think there is much difference between the three? Seriously? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/0-VPfOhsdX2KzqxtS0lPuvxZ7J...

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Hmm, so what i get from that is standard 44 mag load data can be used in a 44wcf as long as its in a 92 or stronger action. Is that right? frankly I'm pretty sure the 44-40 brass isn't nearly as strong as 44 mag..... :o Does not necessarily matter. The 44 Magnum was designed for revolvers, not rifl...

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