I always thought that a New Model Ruger was pretty much indestructible

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I always thought that a New Model Ruger was pretty much indestructible

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That’s not true. I started shooting a big frame Vaquero last night and on the eighth round the transfer bar broke. It tied up the works right there.

A replacement is not expensive but that would sure leave a man in a bad way if it broke out on the prairie.
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I have seen more than one broken transfer bar.
That's one reason I had the hammer welded up and removed the transfer bar on a couple guns.
If I were carrying the New Model Bearcat for serious stuff I believe I would do that on it.
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I carry my old Colt or a three screw.

But I never have seen this before
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A year or so ago I ordered a Blackhawk .41 mag from Guns Int'l which looked new but when I took it out the first time it wouldn't shoot. I took it back home and upon inspection found that the firing pin was not protruding beyond the recoil plate sufficiently to dent the primers. I replaced the transfer bar which was too thin where it contacted the firing pin and also ground a bit off the nose of the hammer and that solved the problem.
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Indestructible they can certainly be BUT any part can break on any make.
I've always looked at the small cast parts with a sideways glance as points of failure. So order 2 or 3 and keep them on hand for the future.
Next question, how many hundreds of even thousands of rounds did it see before you got it? ( Unless you got it new)
I once bought a Beretta SO4, they are a semi custom usually made to order O/U target shotgun, the guy got it from had it made to his dimensions, I shot it well - anyhow within 6 months the top lever broke. Sheared in half. It's a common thing on high end gun that usually sees thousands of rounds a year by serious clay target guys. Needless to say I got a new top lever, made turn screws that fit and a little file work to fit it and had it back breaking targets in no time. Stuff breaks .
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I've had three transfer bars break on two different revolvers over the years. Ruger sent me replacements twice and replaced the revolver the second time it broke on one of the revolvers.
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What I find interesting is that I’ve fired many thousands of rounds through Rugers over many years and never had given any thought to this possibility.

I prefer the older 3 screw guns, not because I thought that they were better but because I like the way the action feels.

Perhaps it’s not a big deal.
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The transfer bar system works.
And it is safer for people who didn't grow up on Colts and Old Model Rugers and who have not gotten completely familiar with them.
But it does lose energy in the process, resulting in a lighter primer strike.
Most people will never notice it.
Handloaders who experiment with different primers will sometimes, especially if they are using rifle primers which have a thicker cup and require more energy to set them off.
I do not care for the New Model action but that's a personal preference based on the fact that I am old and set in my ways. I use the New Models some. They are accurate firearms. My favorite hunting pistol is the .41 Magnum that Bowen built. It's based on a New Model. I have had the action reworked some to bring it more to my liking, but it has the transfer bar system. I have run untold thousands of fairly heavy loads through it and it has never failed me. And like an earlier poster said, keep some spare parts on hand.
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Scott, where did the break occur? Do you see any kind of inclusion in it?

I did check GPC for stock, no new but they have used in stock.
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I haven’t taken the gun apart yet but I plan on posting photos when I do. I ordered a new part and it should arrive next week.
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Gotcha, look forward to see what you find!
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Not uncommon to break a transfer bar. A fair number of cowboy action shooters have done the delete the bar modification on their New Models for this reason.
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One of things I hate on New Models is bolt rides the cylinder.
I remember seeing that wear line on an old Colt or Ruger ,you knew how it got there from someone not knowing how to cock and load One.

Also main culprit on old Colt SAA's breaking hammer notches people lowering hammer from half or less than full cock.
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I've never heard of a transfer bar breaking if it was one of the flat types. The kind that has the hump is prone to breakage. I remove the hump on mine so that my hammer rests against it with a minimum amount of clearance.

I've had several Ruger New Models tie up when the plunger on the hammer bound up from rust/debris. One had a worn plunger, the other was just neglected. Now that I now to look for it, I remove the plunger and clean and polish the hole.
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