50-110 Levergun Video!!

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50-110 Levergun Video!!

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This makes a 45-70 look like a wimpy plinker!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qg1RhlQ9JE
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Nice to let the other feller do the gel testing, eh? :lol:
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I've been watching ol Jeremy's content for a good while. He really sends the thunder downrange with his 50-110. Quite impressive. With the correct bullet it is a legit DG capable cartridge.
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That looks like it would definitely leave a mark - from both ends! :shock:
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I'd like to see what it would do at 100 yards, not 10. That would be more realistic, hunting wise.
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I am a big sissy ! I have a thick recoil pad on my 50-110. No was would I want to put a steel but plate against my shoulder with a full house 50-110. A 535 grgc hard cast at 2000 fps bruises my shoulder with the pad.
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Bronco wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:58 am I am a big sissy ! I have a thick recoil pad on my 50-110. No was would I want to put a steel but plate against my shoulder with a full house 50-110. A 535 grgc hard cast at 2000 fps bruises my shoulder with the pad.
That was fun to watch. A 525Gr hard cast at 1450-ish from a Marlin Guide gun will penetrate a dozen jugs of water, with none-destructive recoil. This load is also non-destructive of meat and bones. Bones get a nice round hole with no splintering, and we can eat up to the hole.
The rest of the velocity is only Needed if the impact velocity needs to be moved to a longer range.

But I am glad for the daring-do of the extroverts...

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Grizz, is that load non-destructive of your shoulder as well? I remember running the Remington 405 at 1950 or so and finding the regular Marlin Classic to be pretty rude.
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Bill in Oregon wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:31 am Grizz, is that load non-destructive of your shoulder as well? I remember running the Remington 405 at 1950 or so and finding the regular Marlin Classic to be pretty rude.
from the guide gun it is very easy shooting, my daughter shoots it, my sons shoot it, they are experienced hunters and there is nothing note-worthy as far as recoil goes. sometimes people assume that a heavy bullet is gonna be a bruiser, but when fired at moderate velocities they are easy. as a comparison a 425Gr hard cast around 1700+ fps, I forget the exact number, those can rearrange your hair. although not like the bruiser in the video . . .
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Looks like another guy who just loves recoil, and always wants bigger.
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I do not shoot the full house load much in my 50-110! Got there testing to find what I thought was max.
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I’m not sure of what he is trying to accomplish. The 50-110 is an express cartridge, designed for a 300 grain bullet and how he gets the gun to shoot 600 grain bullets at the velocity he is, there are some serious pressure issues.

I can’t tell if that is an original 1886 or a converted modern 1886 with higher tensile strength steel than was originally used in the 1886. The 1886 action won’t function with the 50-110 cartridge without serious internal modifications.

The original twist in the 50-110 is quite slow at 1/60 and they turned the 450 a little faster at 1/54. The 450 designation on the 50-100-450 was of course, the use of a 450 grain bullet, which made the “big fifty” even bigger.

For something to do on a nice afternoon, shooting gel blocks with a 50 caliber 1886 might be a fun pastime, but for the use in an original 50-110 or 50-100-450, there is little value in such a comparison.

Left alone, the 50-100-450 is a real thumper and I doubt there is an animal in North America that could stop such a bullet. Shooting these cartridges as they were designed, they are still impressive. The slower twist in the 50-110 will probably not stabilize the longer bullets and what he was shooting in that rifle were bullets that were substantially longer than a 450 grain bullet.

The opposite is quite probable, as the 50-100-450 can still shoot the 300 grain bullet and does make the 50-100-450 a more versatile round if you are wanting to shoot different bullet weights in it. What he didn’t show, was what kind of accuracy he was getting with his bullets at any distance to determine if you could even hit an elephant at a distance.

I have a 50-100-450 and have been shooting 300 grain bullets with it and it shoots them quite well. I have a 50-70 Sharps carbine, a 1876 50 express and a Colt Lightning in 50-95 that I shoot a 300 grain bullet in and that is why I am using the same bullet in the 50-100-450.

For size comparison this shows the 50-70, 50-95 and 50-100-450 and the 300 grain bullet. The pattern in the rock is 2 shots with the 50-100-450 at 150 yards, illustrating the accuracy of the 50-100-450 with the 300 grain bullets…


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COSteve wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:06 pm This makes a 45-70 look like a wimpy plinker!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qg1RhlQ9JE
Both my 50 Alaskan and 50-110 DO make the 45/70 into a wimpy plinker!!!
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Jeremy's 1886 rifles are modern built.
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His latest video is pretty interesting. He's shooting an 1887 lever action shotgun converted with a rifled barrel to shoot something called the 70-150 WCF. That shotgun tube holds 5 rounds of that fat cartridge. I'm pretty sure it's not an original gun ... rather an Italian reproduction fitted with a new barrel.
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Rimfire McNutjob wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:40 am His latest video is pretty interesting. He's shooting an 1887 lever action shotgun converted with a rifled barrel to shoot something called the 70-150 WCF. That shotgun tube holds 5 rounds of that fat cartridge. I'm pretty sure it's not an original gun ... rather an Italian reproduction fitted with a new barrel.
Yes, it's a modern repro of the 1887 shotgun.

Winchester did dabble with a prototype 70-150 that was the exact same build, a modified 1887 shotgun. There is a little bit of info about it floating around on the web.
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