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BEAR MARKET ? IDK
WHERE'S THE VAX FOR THIS NEW MANUFACTURED CRISIS ?Hi GRIZZ,
We have officially hit a bear market in the S&P 500 Index. As of today’s close, the S&P 500 total return is down -21.3% from its highs at the start of this year, breaching the down -20% mark.
How’d we get here? Two words, in our view: stimulus and expectations.
Soon after Covid hit and the world stopped, the Fed jumped in to stabilize the foundation of our financial system (the bond market) with $4.5T of security purchases. It was followed by an additional $3.6T of US government money, first to businesses and then to the consumer directly through extra unemployment benefits, child-tax-credit payments, and checks in the mail.
Today, we find ourselves in a place where all that helpful stimulus money is unwinding. Since the start of the year, the market has been trying to find the correct expectations of the future.
So while the ignition for this drop was Friday’s inflation report (+8.6% year over year for May), the greater driving factor is still a question centered on valuations.
Let’s unpack that.
The inflation report was a little higher than officially expected (by 0.3%), and with the benefit of near-term hindsight, it seems that unspoken expectations were for inflation to come in lower. So anything at the same level, or even mildly higher, was going to set off the stock market drop we got on Friday, following through to today.
The greater reference to valuation — the value the market agrees to pay today for a company’s future earnings — is that it’s trying to find what businesses should be worth in the future, knowing that the stimulus is gone and inflation is here.
In terms of numbers, the 12-month forward price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) for the S&P 500 Index is now about 16.5x, down from a peak of 23x last year. In a historical context, this is in line to above some of the historical averages: 10-year (16.9), 20-year (15.5), and 25-year (16.5).
So far, all of the fall in valuations this year have come from the drop in the “P” (prices), versus a fall in earnings expectations — the “E.” That’s because earnings estimates for this year and next are still at record highs.
Will the market continue to fall?
Anything is possible. Looking back to 1945, when bear markets occurred, 70% of the time they related to a recession, and the average return during a recession was -30%.
From here, further drops in the market depend more greatly on the “E,” as expectations for the next 12 months and for 2023 are high and likely need to come down. For context, aggregate earnings for the S&P 500 Index are expected to be +10% higher for each of the next two years. That seems inconsistent with rising costs and the related expectation of slowing growth. As a result, it’s reasonable that earnings may actually be lower than current expectations by 5%. Assuming this is about right, in our analysis, it could mean market levels would look closer to fair value if down further, by mid-single digits. Thus, the S&P 500 would come close to 30% down for the year, and in line with the average for a recession.
Will we have a recession?
It’s very possible — led by reassessment of corporate earnings while they cut their costs from higher expenses and softer demand. If that’s right, we are about two-thirds of the way through the market downturn (closer to the bottom than the top).
Could we be wrong about this? (Yes — and we sort of hope we are, to the upside.)
Evidence of better earnings growing, a quicker cooling of inflation than expected, and even ancillary events such as a true shift in Covid policy from China or a ceasefire in Russia’s war on Ukraine, can quickly shift expectations positively.
What does this mean for investors?
Diversification is often the answer to a lot of investing questions. It’s never a bad time to review your positions and your plan (or make one). When looking through your portfolio, consider the balance of holdings — higher-quality or lower-valued areas such as dividend stocks, and those in energy and healthcare can be attractive to some investors and can serve as a balance for riskier growth companies that may take longer than average to recover. In addition, depending on your personal situation and investing style, keeping funds available for a “dip buy” may also be prudent.
Volatility is higher these days, but try not to let it trigger an investment reaction. Staying the course may be the right decision as equity markets have historically provided positive returns over the long term.
Sincerely, your dear long lost friends etc. etc. etc.
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Naomi Wolf on the 10 stages of a tyrannical takeover ... --- ...
• https://articles.mercola.com/sites/arti ... eover.aspx
• • it's as serious as a world-killer asteroid
• https://articles.mercola.com/sites/arti ... anism.aspx
• https://articles.mercola.com/sites/arti ... eover.aspx
• • it's as serious as a world-killer asteroid
• https://articles.mercola.com/sites/arti ... anism.aspx
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SHOULD WE TRUST THE GOVERNMENT WITH OUR HEALTH ?
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• https://aapsonline.org/should-we-trust- ... ur-health/
• would this be an interesting poll? • nah. boring.
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• https://aapsonline.org/should-we-trust- ... ur-health/
• would this be an interesting poll? • nah. boring.
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I do not trust the Government with my health. I have some unusual issues, and the Government would let me die without a thought.
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At least once a week I see somebody who has had personally, or had a family member or friend who has suffered an obvious vaccine-related side effect, yet has been told by the 'authorities' that "...there's nothing to see move along..."
Sometimes the person has had side effects that they will probably get over, but the point is still that they were told that the vaccines were tested and proven "safe and effective". The worst are the women who suffered miscarriages or strokes during pregnancy, yet were not only told by their obstetricians that the vaccines were safe and effective but they also pressured them to get the vaccines, making them feel like if they didn't get vaccinated it meant they didn't care about their baby.
It turns out that the testing was done on mice, not humans, and the pregnancies were terminated before the baby mice were born. Testing was done later on humans, and the majority of the data was mysteriously 'lost', but the data that was handed over after legal pressure and whistleblowers were brought to bear, indicated a huge number of miscarriages and side effects. One has to wonder what the data that was conveniently lost would have shown...
At least once a week I see somebody who has had personally, or had a family member or friend who has suffered an obvious vaccine-related side effect, yet has been told by the 'authorities' that "...there's nothing to see move along..."
Sometimes the person has had side effects that they will probably get over, but the point is still that they were told that the vaccines were tested and proven "safe and effective". The worst are the women who suffered miscarriages or strokes during pregnancy, yet were not only told by their obstetricians that the vaccines were safe and effective but they also pressured them to get the vaccines, making them feel like if they didn't get vaccinated it meant they didn't care about their baby.
It turns out that the testing was done on mice, not humans, and the pregnancies were terminated before the baby mice were born. Testing was done later on humans, and the majority of the data was mysteriously 'lost', but the data that was handed over after legal pressure and whistleblowers were brought to bear, indicated a huge number of miscarriages and side effects. One has to wonder what the data that was conveniently lost would have shown...
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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it is interesting that since the blackout on VAERS reporting numbers, there is silence about the #killvax excess deaths, but the promotion of it down to infants is continuing as if nothing immoral or illegal has happened.
one unintended consequence of the vaers blackout is that people, some people, right thinking people quit wearing the person-obliterating self-isolating masks.
my sense is that there is a slight pause on the devil's mass casualty attack against humans, while the hyper-inflation attack gathers momentum, and the other jackboot falls . . . satanic hate against YHWH's creation is ramping up in perfect conformity to the Revelation . . .
and we live in interesting prophesied times
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[yod-hey-waw-hey] = [hand-behold-nail-behold] = the formal name of the Creator who created us and owns our souls . . . Isaiah 42:8
one unintended consequence of the vaers blackout is that people, some people, right thinking people quit wearing the person-obliterating self-isolating masks.
my sense is that there is a slight pause on the devil's mass casualty attack against humans, while the hyper-inflation attack gathers momentum, and the other jackboot falls . . . satanic hate against YHWH's creation is ramping up in perfect conformity to the Revelation . . .
and we live in interesting prophesied times
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[yod-hey-waw-hey] = [hand-behold-nail-behold] = the formal name of the Creator who created us and owns our souls . . . Isaiah 42:8
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Thought of the Day.
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Christ may return today for real.
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I really hope He comes today.
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+12&version=KJV
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Christ may return today for real.
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I really hope He comes today.
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+12&version=KJV
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He might return at any time. Some people are going to be very happy, and some will be in for a very unpleasant surprise.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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miscellaneous department of miscellany
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.Covid Vax: The Likely Culprit in Sudden Adult Death Syndrome.
Dr. Vliet’s radio show discusses the alarming rise in sudden deaths of young, healthy people following the COVID shots, and review the court-ordered release of 55,000 pages of Pfizer data that shows they knew these deaths and critical organ damages were occurring with the experimental gene therapy shots. The prideful arrogance and failure to warn the public by the medical profession, Big Pharma, FDA, CDC, NIH, Fauci, and other public health officials are leading to what Dr. Naomi Wolfe and others have called “a genocide.” “The lies revealed are stunning,” says Dr. Naomi Wolf in her recent Substack article that is one of many recent reports discussed by DrLee4America and Nicole Landers, RN, BSN discuss in today’s show. Another report says, “Doctors baffled by Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (SADS) in healthy young people…and 90% die before ever reaching the hospital.”
https://www.americaoutloud.com/the-like ... -syndrome/
“It was no less than Benjamin Franklin, supposed “deist in chief,” who admonished members of the Constitutional Convention with these words:
In this situation of this Assembly groping as it were in the dark to find political truth, and scarce able to distinguish it when presented to us, how has it happened, Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our understandings? In the beginning of the contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible of danger we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine Protection. -- Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered. I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men.”
https://odysee.com/@MaajidNawaz:d/EP8-Radical:9 Pfizer whistle blower
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/arti ... fects.aspx
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in the evening I ask the LORD
can it get much worse?
every morning it got worse
did I switch to decaf?
can it get much worse?
every morning it got worse
did I switch to decaf?
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I came across this article I had saved a link to and it reminded me of the double standard where the social media doctors seemed to rely on when it comes to covid information instead of actually reading the primary medical literature, would always criticize studies of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, by selectively reporting only a handful of studies that were in fact poorly designed. Then they would also selectively omit details like presented in this article which typically were far worse problems when it came to 'studies' on the vaccinations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/busi ... xford.html
I came across this article I had saved a link to and it reminded me of the double standard where the social media doctors seemed to rely on when it comes to covid information instead of actually reading the primary medical literature, would always criticize studies of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, by selectively reporting only a handful of studies that were in fact poorly designed. Then they would also selectively omit details like presented in this article which typically were far worse problems when it came to 'studies' on the vaccinations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/busi ... xford.html
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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Socialist New Zealand doctors are even waking up
https://nzdsos.com/2022/05/24/deaths-fo ... ccination/
Socialist New Zealand doctors are even waking up
https://nzdsos.com/2022/05/24/deaths-fo ... ccination/
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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Good link Doc. here is a taste of reality for anyone with a reality appetite.
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road trip to TEXAS starting soon. the diagonal track from puget sound to Burnet. anyone near that track and a hamburger place?
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Are you going to be anywhere near I-35 or I-20? Waxahachie is sort of a point in my area.
I start a new position in Gun Barrel City this week. Not too sure about what is there other than a lake.
I start a new position in Gun Barrel City this week. Not too sure about what is there other than a lake.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
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Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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RE Union over around aug 7, and i'll start wandering back from there. have a sister and brother to visit on the back tack. Let's weigh the possibilities then. burgers and coffee is about all the excitement i can tolerate . . . 

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One problem is that when comparing relatively-rare events (just like 'school shootings' or other gun-control events), we tend to think in individual experience, like a friend who said "well, nine of us in our medical group got vaccines, and none of them had any problems..." - yet they were vaccinating against a disease with only a one in five thousand (or less) chance of killing them. A "data set" of nine has zero meaning in that situation.
On the other hand, when you look at a national trend, whether disease deaths, vaccine deaths, or whatever, it certainly is thought provoking:
https://gettr.com/user/makismd
https://dailysceptic.org/archive/try-as ... cine-data/
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamane ... ct/2794886
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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along the lines that three shots do not make a statistically valid group ... however some of them do look like cloverleafs ...
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hmmm, another clover leaf? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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hmmm, another clover leaf? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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"It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!" "Freaked out, Insecure, Neurotic and Emotional!" From "The Italian Job" remake. I'm pure blooded, ie., my DNA is still intact!
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Thanks, Grizz. Given the thread, I thought it might have been a bit out of place but did it anyway! 

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Good article on how the American Academy of Pediatrics has lost its way...
https://sensiblemed.substack.com/p/the- ... s/comments
Particularly on 'masks' for CoVid...
https://www.cato.org/working-paper/evid ... dium=email
...but the AAP and AMA lost me forty years ago when they endorsed 'common sense gun control'...
Good article on how the American Academy of Pediatrics has lost its way...
https://sensiblemed.substack.com/p/the- ... s/comments
Particularly on 'masks' for CoVid...
https://www.cato.org/working-paper/evid ... dium=email
...but the AAP and AMA lost me forty years ago when they endorsed 'common sense gun control'...

Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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LOL mostly this thread is just me and Grizz swappin dirt on the harm done by 'organized medicine' and 'big pharma' as they use 'regulatory capture' to accrue power and wealth with the help of our now-socialist government. We hope a few others notice and learn.
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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AJMD429, I got red pilled even before The Matrix came out! 

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Artemis 1 launch scrubbed. Word is the sight of the fake vp caused Artemis to wretch and dribble hydrogen peroxide down his chin . . .
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speaking of "excess deaths" here is info released today on the subject:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wLu98NygrA
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something has gotta be done. wait. something was done, and this is the result.
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mass murder by "scientists"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wLu98NygrA
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something has gotta be done. wait. something was done, and this is the result.
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mass murder by "scientists"
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https://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/
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the proclaimer story:
https://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/blo ... proclaimer
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what are listening groups?
https://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/blo ... ning-group
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tired of crawling under vehicles with a couple of bottle jacks and large chunks of granite for a stand, i bought a 4 ton floor jack and a couple of 3 ton jack stands. don't need no stinking ramps now by golly...
with the money i earned making runrun run again. because, you know, $750.00 saved is SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS EARNED.
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with the money i earned making runrun run again. because, you know, $750.00 saved is SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS EARNED.
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SUB TITLE: GENDER DYSPHORIA
really
https://www.americaoutloud.com/gender-d ... lpractice/
and a little taste
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really
https://www.americaoutloud.com/gender-d ... lpractice/
and a little taste

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I like women. Does that make me a lesbian trapped in a mans body.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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Must be a pharmacy thing; my pharmacy school buddies and I would constantly claim to be "lesbians trapped in men's bodies"...the girls in our class just rolled their eyes (and wiggled so cute when they walked away. . . . < sigh >. . .
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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Clots after CoVid vaccine:
https://youtu.be/rdi32RtcmGI
Of course the fascist Democrats have assured the big-tech they collude with have assured that the video is heavily redacted/censored.
https://youtu.be/rdi32RtcmGI
Of course the fascist Democrats have assured the big-tech they collude with have assured that the video is heavily redacted/censored.
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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I am on Brilinta to prevent clots, and strokes in my Cerebellum now. All because of the covid vaccine. My balance is a bit off, and it might never fully return.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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this administration is waging war against YHWH and His Son and His Spirit
Isaiah 20
bible study to this point
https://www.openbible.info/topics/call_ ... _last_days
Isaiah 20
bible study to this point
https://www.openbible.info/topics/call_ ... _last_days
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Todd: Hello… Operator…listen to me…I can’t speak very loud. – This is an emergency. I’m a passenger on a United flight to San Francisco.. We have a situation here….Our plane has been hijacked…..can you understand me?
Lisa: (exhaling a deep breath to herself) I understand… Can the hijackers see you talking on the phone?
Todd: No
Lisa: Can you tell me how many hijackers are on the plane?
Todd: There are three that we know of.
Lisa: Can you see any weapons? What kind of weapons do they have?
Todd: Yes…. they don’t have guns….they have knives – they took over the plane with knives.
Lisa: Do you mean…like steak knives?
Todd: No, these are razor knives…like box cutters.
Lisa: Can you tell what country these people are from?
Todd: No…..I don’t know. They sound like they’re from the mid-east.
Lisa: Have they said what they want?
Todd: Someone announced from the cockpit that there was a bomb on board. He said he was the captain and to stay in our seats and stay quiet.
He said that they were meeting these men’s demands and returning to the airport… It was very broken English, and… I’m telling you…it sounded fake!
Lisa: Ok sir, please give me your name.
Todd: My name is Todd Beamer.
Lisa: Ok Todd….my name is Lisa…Do you know your flight number? If you can’t remember, it’s on your ticket.
Todd: It’s United Flight 93.
Lisa: Now Todd, can you try to tell me exactly what happened?
Todd: Two of the hijackers were sitting in first class near the cockpit. A third one was sitting near the back of the coach section. The two up. front got into the cockpit somehow; there was shouting. The third hijacker said he had a bomb. It looks like a bomb. He’s got it tied to his waist with a red belt of some kind.
Lisa: So is the door to the cockpit open?
Todd: No, the hijackers shut it behind them.
Lisa: Has anyone been injured?
Todd: Yes, ..they…they killed one passenger sitting in first class. There’s been lots of shouting. We don’t know if the pilots are dead or alive. A flight attendant told me that the pilot and copilot had been forced from the cockpit and may have been wounded.
Lisa: Where is the 3rd hijacker now Todd?
Todd: He’s near the back of the plane. They forced most of the passengers into first class. There are fourteen of us here in the back. Five are flight attendants. He hasn’t noticed that I slipped into this pantry to get the phone. The guy with the bomb ordered us to sit on the floor in the rear of the plane……….oh Jesus.. Help!
Lisa: Todd….are you ok? Tell me what’s happening!
Todd: Hello…..We’re going down….I think we’re going to crash……Wait – wait a minute. No, we’re leveling off….we’re ok. I think we may be turning around…..That’s it – we changed directions. Do you hear me….we’re flying east again.
Lisa: Ok Todd…. What’s going on with the other passengers?
Todd: Everyone is… really scared. A few passengers with cell phones have made calls to relatives. A guy, Jeremy, was talking to his wife just before the hijacking started. She told him that hijackers had crashed two planes into the World Trade Center……Lisa is that true??
Lisa: Todd…..I have to tell you the truth…..it’s very bad. The World Trade Center is gone. Both of the towers have been destroyed.
Todd: Oh God —help us!
Lisa: A third plane was taken over by terrorists. It crashed into the Pentagon in Washington DC. Our country is under attack….and I’m afraid that your plane may be part of their plan.
Todd: Oh dear God. Dear God…….Lisa, will you do something for me?
Lisa: I’ll try….if I can….Yes.
Todd: I want you to call my wife and my kids for me and tell them what’s happened. Promise me you’ll call..
Lisa: I promise – I’ll call.
Todd: Our home number is 201 353-1073…….You have the same name as my wife…Lisa….We’ve been married for 10 years. She’s pregnant with our 3rd child. Tell her that I love her…….(choking up)..I’ll always love her..(clearing throat) We have two boys.. David, he’s 3 and Andrew, he’s 1…..Tell them……(choking) tell them that their daddy loves them and that he is so proud of them. (clearing throat again) Our baby is due January 12th…..I saw an ultra sound…..it was great….we still don’t know if it’s a girl or a boy………Lisa?
Lisa: (barely able to speak) I’ll tell them, I promise Todd.
Todd: I’m going back to the group—if I can get back I will…
Lisa: Todd, leave this line open…are you still there?……
Lisa: (dials the phone..) Hello, FBI, my name is Lisa Jefferson, I’m a telephone supervisor for GTE. I need to report a terrorist hijacking of a United Airlines Flight 93….Yes I’ll hold.
Goodwin: Hello, this is Agent Goodwin.. I understand you have a hijacking situation?
Lisa: Yes sir, I’ve been talking with a passenger, a Todd Beamer, on Flight 93 who managed to get to an air phone unnoticed.
Goodwin: Where did this flight originate, and what was its destination?
Lisa: The flight left Newark New Jersey at 8 A.M. departing for San Francisco. The hijackers took over the plane shortly after takeoff, and several minutes later the plane changed course – it is now flying east.
Goodwin: Ms. Jefferson…I need to talk to someone aboard that plane. Can you get me thru to the planes phone?
Lisa: I still have that line open sir, I can patch you through on a conference call…hold a mo…..
Todd: Hello Lisa, Lisa are you there?
Lisa: Yes, I’m here. Todd, I made a call to the FBI, Agent Goodwin is on the line and will be talking to you as well.
Todd: The others all know that this isn’t your normal hijacking. Jeremy called his wife again on his cell phone. She told him more about the World Trade Center and all.
Goodwin: Hello Todd. This is Agent Goodwin with the FBI. We have been monitoring your flight. Your plane is on a course for Washington, DC. These terrorists sent two planes into the World Trade Center and one plane into the Pentagon. Our best guess is that they plan to fly your plane into either the White House or the United States Capital Building.
Todd: I understand…hold on……I’ll…….I’ll be back..
Lisa: Mr. Goodwin, how much time do they have before they get to Washington?
Goodwin: Not long ma’am. They changed course over Cleveland; they’re approaching Pittsburgh now. Washington may be twenty minutes away.
Todd: (breathing a little heavier) The plane seems to be changing directions just a little. It’s getting pretty rough up here. The plane is flying real erratic….We’re not going to make it out of here. Listen to me….I want you to hear this….I have talked with the others….we have decided we would not be pawns in these hijackers suicidal plot.
Lisa: Todd, what are you going to do?
Todd: We’ve hatched a plan. Four of us are going to rush the hijacker with the bomb. After we take him out, we’ll break into the cockpit. A stewardess is getting some boiling water to throw on the hijackers at the controls. We’ll get them….and we’ll take them out. Lisa, …..will you do one last thing for me?
Lisa: Yes…What is it?
Todd: Would you pray with me?
They pray: Our father which art in Heaven
Hallowed be thy name,
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive our trespassers,
And lead us not into temptation
But deliver us from evil
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory
Forever…..Amen
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want…
He makes me to lie down in green pastures
He leads me beside the still waters
He restores my soul
He leads me in paths of righteousness
for His name’s sake
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I will fear no evil, for thou art with me…..
Todd: (softer) God help me…Jesus help me….(clears throat and louder)
Are you guys ready?……..
Let’s Roll……………………
Lisa: (exhaling a deep breath to herself) I understand… Can the hijackers see you talking on the phone?
Todd: No
Lisa: Can you tell me how many hijackers are on the plane?
Todd: There are three that we know of.
Lisa: Can you see any weapons? What kind of weapons do they have?
Todd: Yes…. they don’t have guns….they have knives – they took over the plane with knives.
Lisa: Do you mean…like steak knives?
Todd: No, these are razor knives…like box cutters.
Lisa: Can you tell what country these people are from?
Todd: No…..I don’t know. They sound like they’re from the mid-east.
Lisa: Have they said what they want?
Todd: Someone announced from the cockpit that there was a bomb on board. He said he was the captain and to stay in our seats and stay quiet.
He said that they were meeting these men’s demands and returning to the airport… It was very broken English, and… I’m telling you…it sounded fake!
Lisa: Ok sir, please give me your name.
Todd: My name is Todd Beamer.
Lisa: Ok Todd….my name is Lisa…Do you know your flight number? If you can’t remember, it’s on your ticket.
Todd: It’s United Flight 93.
Lisa: Now Todd, can you try to tell me exactly what happened?
Todd: Two of the hijackers were sitting in first class near the cockpit. A third one was sitting near the back of the coach section. The two up. front got into the cockpit somehow; there was shouting. The third hijacker said he had a bomb. It looks like a bomb. He’s got it tied to his waist with a red belt of some kind.
Lisa: So is the door to the cockpit open?
Todd: No, the hijackers shut it behind them.
Lisa: Has anyone been injured?
Todd: Yes, ..they…they killed one passenger sitting in first class. There’s been lots of shouting. We don’t know if the pilots are dead or alive. A flight attendant told me that the pilot and copilot had been forced from the cockpit and may have been wounded.
Lisa: Where is the 3rd hijacker now Todd?
Todd: He’s near the back of the plane. They forced most of the passengers into first class. There are fourteen of us here in the back. Five are flight attendants. He hasn’t noticed that I slipped into this pantry to get the phone. The guy with the bomb ordered us to sit on the floor in the rear of the plane……….oh Jesus.. Help!
Lisa: Todd….are you ok? Tell me what’s happening!
Todd: Hello…..We’re going down….I think we’re going to crash……Wait – wait a minute. No, we’re leveling off….we’re ok. I think we may be turning around…..That’s it – we changed directions. Do you hear me….we’re flying east again.
Lisa: Ok Todd…. What’s going on with the other passengers?
Todd: Everyone is… really scared. A few passengers with cell phones have made calls to relatives. A guy, Jeremy, was talking to his wife just before the hijacking started. She told him that hijackers had crashed two planes into the World Trade Center……Lisa is that true??
Lisa: Todd…..I have to tell you the truth…..it’s very bad. The World Trade Center is gone. Both of the towers have been destroyed.
Todd: Oh God —help us!
Lisa: A third plane was taken over by terrorists. It crashed into the Pentagon in Washington DC. Our country is under attack….and I’m afraid that your plane may be part of their plan.
Todd: Oh dear God. Dear God…….Lisa, will you do something for me?
Lisa: I’ll try….if I can….Yes.
Todd: I want you to call my wife and my kids for me and tell them what’s happened. Promise me you’ll call..
Lisa: I promise – I’ll call.
Todd: Our home number is 201 353-1073…….You have the same name as my wife…Lisa….We’ve been married for 10 years. She’s pregnant with our 3rd child. Tell her that I love her…….(choking up)..I’ll always love her..(clearing throat) We have two boys.. David, he’s 3 and Andrew, he’s 1…..Tell them……(choking) tell them that their daddy loves them and that he is so proud of them. (clearing throat again) Our baby is due January 12th…..I saw an ultra sound…..it was great….we still don’t know if it’s a girl or a boy………Lisa?
Lisa: (barely able to speak) I’ll tell them, I promise Todd.
Todd: I’m going back to the group—if I can get back I will…
Lisa: Todd, leave this line open…are you still there?……
Lisa: (dials the phone..) Hello, FBI, my name is Lisa Jefferson, I’m a telephone supervisor for GTE. I need to report a terrorist hijacking of a United Airlines Flight 93….Yes I’ll hold.
Goodwin: Hello, this is Agent Goodwin.. I understand you have a hijacking situation?
Lisa: Yes sir, I’ve been talking with a passenger, a Todd Beamer, on Flight 93 who managed to get to an air phone unnoticed.
Goodwin: Where did this flight originate, and what was its destination?
Lisa: The flight left Newark New Jersey at 8 A.M. departing for San Francisco. The hijackers took over the plane shortly after takeoff, and several minutes later the plane changed course – it is now flying east.
Goodwin: Ms. Jefferson…I need to talk to someone aboard that plane. Can you get me thru to the planes phone?
Lisa: I still have that line open sir, I can patch you through on a conference call…hold a mo…..
Todd: Hello Lisa, Lisa are you there?
Lisa: Yes, I’m here. Todd, I made a call to the FBI, Agent Goodwin is on the line and will be talking to you as well.
Todd: The others all know that this isn’t your normal hijacking. Jeremy called his wife again on his cell phone. She told him more about the World Trade Center and all.
Goodwin: Hello Todd. This is Agent Goodwin with the FBI. We have been monitoring your flight. Your plane is on a course for Washington, DC. These terrorists sent two planes into the World Trade Center and one plane into the Pentagon. Our best guess is that they plan to fly your plane into either the White House or the United States Capital Building.
Todd: I understand…hold on……I’ll…….I’ll be back..
Lisa: Mr. Goodwin, how much time do they have before they get to Washington?
Goodwin: Not long ma’am. They changed course over Cleveland; they’re approaching Pittsburgh now. Washington may be twenty minutes away.
Todd: (breathing a little heavier) The plane seems to be changing directions just a little. It’s getting pretty rough up here. The plane is flying real erratic….We’re not going to make it out of here. Listen to me….I want you to hear this….I have talked with the others….we have decided we would not be pawns in these hijackers suicidal plot.
Lisa: Todd, what are you going to do?
Todd: We’ve hatched a plan. Four of us are going to rush the hijacker with the bomb. After we take him out, we’ll break into the cockpit. A stewardess is getting some boiling water to throw on the hijackers at the controls. We’ll get them….and we’ll take them out. Lisa, …..will you do one last thing for me?
Lisa: Yes…What is it?
Todd: Would you pray with me?
They pray: Our father which art in Heaven
Hallowed be thy name,
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive our trespassers,
And lead us not into temptation
But deliver us from evil
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory
Forever…..Amen
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want…
He makes me to lie down in green pastures
He leads me beside the still waters
He restores my soul
He leads me in paths of righteousness
for His name’s sake
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I will fear no evil, for thou art with me…..
Todd: (softer) God help me…Jesus help me….(clears throat and louder)
Are you guys ready?……..
Let’s Roll……………………
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Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art;
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tow’r:
Raise Thou me heav’nward, O Pow’r of my pow’r.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heav’n’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all
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Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art;
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tow’r:
Raise Thou me heav’nward, O Pow’r of my pow’r.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heav’n’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all
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I was using a website to track the AK storm, and found another illustration that explains why we use a different system in navigation. One concept is that degrees on a compass is direction. The other is the familiar concept that time is distance. To the end that when I plan road trips I use hours between waypoints as if I were still at sea. {appropriate jokes welcome here
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a knot, is a nautical mile/hour. time and distance. in the first second image km/hr is a derivative of kn and it leaves out some background information.
one degree of latitude is one nautical mile. this is crucial in celestial navigation.
then the location 167° West is measuring how far west of Greenwich England that spot is. It is also how we get time zones, it is about 11 hours from Greenwich, or that spot passed Greenwich at midnight GMT. The ability to accurately know the exact time to the sixtieth of a second of the meridian we are on allows us to cross that information with easily obtained, with a sextant or a gps, the precise intersection, our location. It's all done by measuring time, the gps measures time with an atomic clock, one second defined as
yeah but, what about the metric system?
Besides which, the metric system still does not tell time, does it? and time is distance, Right? And longitude is based on how far Greenwich rotates in 24 hours, broken down into degrees, minutes, and seconds. Time = Distance. As in light-years = distance.
hope this amuses somebody else besides me LOL LOL LOL
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a knot, is a nautical mile/hour. time and distance. in the first second image km/hr is a derivative of kn and it leaves out some background information.
Historically, a minute was defined as the meridian arc length corresponding to one minute ( 1 60 of a degree) of latitude. Today the international nautical mile is defined as exactly........(6,076 ft).
one degree of latitude is one nautical mile. this is crucial in celestial navigation.
then the location 167° West is measuring how far west of Greenwich England that spot is. It is also how we get time zones, it is about 11 hours from Greenwich, or that spot passed Greenwich at midnight GMT. The ability to accurately know the exact time to the sixtieth of a second of the meridian we are on allows us to cross that information with easily obtained, with a sextant or a gps, the precise intersection, our location. It's all done by measuring time, the gps measures time with an atomic clock, one second defined as
The gps receiver measures the distance to two or more satellites to this degree of precision, and calculates our position.“The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom.”
yeah but, what about the metric system?
a small fraction of the accuracy of the cesium clock.In 1983 the definition of a meter, which is still valid today, was finally established. They wanted to kill two birds with one stone by choosing the speed of light as a reference point. Until then, this was measured, so it changed with improved measurement methods. Now, however, the decision was made to define it firmly and the meter as well. Accordingly, one meter is the distance that light travels in a vacuum in the 299,792,458th part of a second.
Besides which, the metric system still does not tell time, does it? and time is distance, Right? And longitude is based on how far Greenwich rotates in 24 hours, broken down into degrees, minutes, and seconds. Time = Distance. As in light-years = distance.
hope this amuses somebody else besides me LOL LOL LOL
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With Earth's rotation slowing all the time, how does that affect navigation?
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Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
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THAT is a good question. I was reading about the cesium atomic clock which has a rate of less than 1s in something like 9 billion years. the reason for accurate time is to geolocate the exact position on earth where a line drawn from Sirius touches the earth so we can calculate how far we are from that spot. The annual navigation tables give that location for every celestial navigation object for every minute or second of the year. Depending on how much money you want to spend

BTW, I am good at piloting with electronic devices and have thousands of hours experience, but I am a new and slow student of celestial arts and publish these delights as i discover them.
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The pushers of 'mandated vaccination' need to go to jail for a long time. It's one thing to 'recommend' something that 'authorities' say may be beneficial, but QUITE ANOTHER to 'mandate' something, regardless of what 'authorities' say.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/a-ne ... or-liberal
If you demand the 'authority' to 'mandate', then you must accept the 'responsibility' for your mandates and any negative consequences.
The pushers of 'mandated vaccination' need to go to jail for a long time. It's one thing to 'recommend' something that 'authorities' say may be beneficial, but QUITE ANOTHER to 'mandate' something, regardless of what 'authorities' say.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/a-ne ... or-liberal
If you demand the 'authority' to 'mandate', then you must accept the 'responsibility' for your mandates and any negative consequences.
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"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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haven't we been saying it all along ? ? ?
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2 corinthians chapter 5 verse 8
this is a common faith up lifter, stating what we are confident about, this is EQUALLY TRUE for believers and unbelievers, which is developed in this section of scripture. I know this, but in hearing it quoted it became accented by the context in verse 10. The point of the entire section, we MUST ALL APPEAR before Christ.
This precludes hating our enemies, because those who are, for instance, destroying America and hating on Christ's children of the resurrection, are going to open their eyes and see Christ face to face. And then what? The unbelievers are instantly converted, but too late. This is the urgency of the great news of the existence and return of Christ's Kingdom.
faith comes by hearing . . . . the Word of YHWH
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this is a common faith up lifter, stating what we are confident about, this is EQUALLY TRUE for believers and unbelievers, which is developed in this section of scripture. I know this, but in hearing it quoted it became accented by the context in verse 10. The point of the entire section, we MUST ALL APPEAR before Christ.
This precludes hating our enemies, because those who are, for instance, destroying America and hating on Christ's children of the resurrection, are going to open their eyes and see Christ face to face. And then what? The unbelievers are instantly converted, but too late. This is the urgency of the great news of the existence and return of Christ's Kingdom.
faith comes by hearing . . . . the Word of YHWH
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