Looming CA Firearms Restrictions - Response

[stew71]

As some of you know, our wonderful CA legislators are once again considering several anti-gun laws that will restrict ammo sales, implement untested smart gun technology, and ban guns shows at state-owned venues. Well, I wrote most, if not all of the political varmints that I could track down. All of them except one, sent out the typical automated email response. You know the drill.

Well, one of the good guys actually sent me an email...okay MAYBE it was a staffer, but this sure wasn't one of those automated jobs. This is from Senator Dave Cox's office. He's what the Left would call one of those unfeeling, cruel, ultra-right wing conservatives. He represents one of the best districts in the West...the alpine counties of the Northern Sierra Nevada.

Anyways....here's his email word-for word. Although we're outnumbered, we still have some on our side, even in the PRC. As you can see, many times, it's our RINO Governor who just cuddles up to the Left and signs away our rights piece by piece.

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Mr. Stewart,
Thank you for contacting my office regarding gun control legislation.

My stance on additional gun control legislation has been clear. I have consistently opposed efforts to restrict the ability of law-abiding citizens to purchase and legally use firearms.

Here is a brief summary of some of the gun control bills currently pending in the Legislature:

Assembly Bill 2062 (De Leon) is a re-introduction of a bill carried by the same author last year (AB 362). AB 2062 is far-reaching measure which prohibits any person not licensed as a gun dealer to transfer, sell or buy more than 50 pieces of ammunition in a month. The bill also implements extensive reporting and record-keeping requirements for all licensed gun dealers who wish to sell ammunition. The requirements listed in this measure are impractical and would do more to inconvenience lawful gun owners more than deter criminals. I oppose AB2062 in its current form. The bill passed the full Assembly on May 29 by a vote of 42-32 and is now awaiting a committee assignment in the Senate.

Assembly Bill 2498 (Leno) would prohibit firearms sales at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. This legislation is an effort to allow the City and/or County of San Francisco to discriminate against legitimate gun show participants and vendors who must comply with stringent state regulations affecting licensing, sales, background checks, liability and other provisions of state law governing gun shows. It is worth noting that the property in question is owned by the state, not the county. For these reasons, I am opposed to this bill as written. AB 2498 passed the full Assembly on May 28 by a vote of 44-34 and is now awaiting a committee assignment in the Senate.

Assembly Bill 2566 (Hancock) was written to attempt to remove handguns from state regulation and instead allow cities and counties to regulate or prohibit their purchase or use. This bill seems to be in direct violation of California Penal Code Section 12026 (a) which affirms the right of qualified, law-abiding individuals to possess and bear arms within the state. The bill failed passage in the Assembly Public Safety Committee on April 15 by a vote of 1-2 and is dead for the remainder of this legislative session.

During 2007, other pertinent gun control-related bills were approved by the Legislature and signed into law by Governor Schwarzenegger:

Assembly Bill 821 (Nava) would require the use of non-lead rifle and handgun ammunition for hunting in certain areas as to reduce the risk of lead poisoning to the endangered California Condor. While the goal of protecting the endangered California Condor has merit, in my view the provisions contained in this bill were excessive and of dubious value. AB 821 passed from the Senate on September 4, 2007 by a vote of 23 to 15. I voted against the bill at that time. The bill was signed into law by the Governor on October 13, 2007.

Assembly Bill 1471 (Feuer) would require all handguns sold after January 1, 2010 to include micro-stamped identifying information that would be transferred to each dispensed bullet cartridge as it was fired. Technical issues aside, it is my opinion that such a program will not lead to any significant reduction in gun violence, nor will it increase conviction rates of gun-related crimes. Moreover, the bill has the potential to inconvenience and even implicate lawful gun owners whose guns were stolen and used in the commission of a crime. AB 1471 passed the Senate on September 6, 2007 by a vote of 21 to 17. I voted in opposition to the bill at that time. In addition to voting against the bill, along with my Senate Republican Colleagues I urged the Governor to veto the bill. Despite our efforts, the Governor signed the legislation on October 13, 2007.

If you are interested in tracking the progress of current legislation, you may access the status, votes, bill text and analyses of this and other legislation from my Senate home page at http://www.senate.ca.gov/cox.

Again, thank you for taking the time to relay your views. Please feel free to communicate with me in the future on other issues of interest.

Sincerely,

DAVE COX
Senator, First District

[CowboyTutt]

Thanks for sharing that. Sure is depressing though. I don't get email responses, even automated ones, in a timely fashion from my congressmen (women). I think I will try phoning or writing it the old fashioned way.

-Tutt

[O.S.O.K.]

Wow.

I can't help but think of some Texas history right about now.

The Alamo.

A small band of heroic Texians surrounded by the Mexican army.

The conservatives in the PRC are kinda like those Texians.

It really sadens me to see such a big potentially cool state like California fall to the evil socialist sith. And it makes me wonder what I would do if Texas were in the same boat.

It won't be long and firearm ownership will be defacto illegal in the PRC.

I think the good folk should pack up and get the heck out while you can. In time, the fruits of this evil seed-sowing will sprout and then perhaps a concerted effort can be made to reclaim it.

[Ysabel Kid]

Unreal. Tutt - I feel for all you CA levergunners. Looks like Jeremy is getting out of dodge just in time. Wish you all weren't confronted with this asinine stuff all the time, but I fear it will simply get worse, year after year, until they have effectively legislated your rights away...

[lever-4-life]

I love where I am at, I don't plan on leaving. I am just making shure that I have all of the bases covered. California almost allways grandfathers so I plan on focusing on auto pistoles for the next two years.

[John in MS]

What a nightmare. I sure feel sorry for all our California brethern.

I can't believe Arnold signed the stupid micro-stamping bill. I used to think he had at least 1 foot
planted in reality. That is simply insane.

Hang in there guys!

John

[stew71]

Yeah I see posts all the time about moving out of California and what not. I still try to convince my wife we need to move to Alaska or Montana or some other friendly red state out here in the West. Both of us could easily pick up consulting jobs in no time. I dunno...maybe its just that I don't like running away from a fight. California used to be a solid conservative state with some isolated pockets of Bay Area and LA lunacy thrown in for chuckles. We'll see. It hasn't quite gotten to the point where it's time to throw in the towel.

Besides, if ya can't make a stand in your own front yard....well you get the idea.

Oh and I know that it ain't a lever gun, but I've been eyeballing one of those purdy Varmint A4 ARs from Rock River Arms. So it has to have a CA-legal mag button lock. Big deal. I want it knowing that it could be quickly converted back to a standard AR if the bad times. Also knowing that we still have a way around those stupid AWB laws throws the Left into fits around here. Kinda like rubbing salt in a wound.

Heh heh heh.

[BruceB]

AB 2566 was killed last month.

[Jayhawker]

Like the Texians, there are quite a few of us that aren't going to give up easily or without a fight. Interestingly too, often I hear of some hair brained scheme pop up here in CA and all lament how leftist the loonies are out here only to find out that Illinois or Massachusetts already has a FOID card requirement or something equally evil. Stereotypes aside, I'm not sure CA is leading the nation in the anti-gun sentiment anymore.

[NonPCnraRN]

If you see gang bangers picking up someone else's brass at the range you will have a good idea what they are going to do with it. The first time the LEOs have to investigate a shooting and a bunch of microstamped brass from law abiding citizens is mixed in with the shooters brass the fiasco will be seen for what it really is. I can hear the criminals lawyer now. "So tell me officer, if there are casings with 8 different headstamps at the scene can you be positive that my client is the owner of the murder weapon?" They will still have to use the evidence techniques ie recovered bullets matched to rifling, etc., but this will muddy the water and may make the LEOs' jobs worse. What happens if you by a replacement barrel from Barstow for your 45? Is each barrel going to have to a microstamp in the chamber and the sale be registered? Or will they become like high capacity mags with companies not shipping to Kalipornia. Will polishing the feed ramp and throat become illegal? Thank god I have all the Krunchentickers (Cooperism) I need. Wait till some gblin (Cooperism) shoots a LEO's vest with a 45 Blackhawk loaded with Punch Bullets. If Obama gets defeated, wait till the riots start in Watts and other choice areas of this state and citizens want to know why they have to wait 10 days for a firearm. At least we will have ours.

[scr83jp]

What a nightmare. I sure feel sorry for all our California brethern.

I can't believe Arnold signed the stupid micro-stamping bill. I used to think he had at least 1 foot
planted in reality. That is simply insane.

Hang in there guys!

John

Arnie is a RINO married into the kennedy clan so he follows lock step uncle teddy,he's been borrowing cash to run CA, he never enforced prop 13 limitations on the the money wasters just let them spend as usual,he's messed up more than davis.Moon Beam wants to be the gov again I still remember how screwed up CA was when he was the head demo: like Rosie & the Supremes did away with the death penalty so Manson & followers plus many others couldn't be removed from the gene pool.

[MikeS.]

As most of you have heard Fresno, Ca was where I was born and lived for 41 years. Some things about the state I really miss, like being at 6k feet in an hour at Shaver lake. Or swimming in the Pacific in 3 hours. San Diego. Everything North of Sacramento. Fresh corn tortillas.

But there is a WHOLE LOT of stuff I don't miss. So much so that I'm not even going to start.

I'm so happy that here I can walk into the local gun stores, find a gun I want, pay my money, wait 5 minutes for a phone call and walk out with my new friend. I don't HAVE to have a friendly relationship with the Sheriff like I did with Magarian to get a CCW permit. I have that here only because my oldest daughter is the asst warden at the regional jail. WV is a WILL issue state. The new incoming Sheriff is a Brother

Guys, if you can, get out. I was fortunate. Close family was deceased and work offered me a great incentive package to move here. I'm really glad I did.

[Slick]

The whole part of “CA gun control legislation” that makes me laugh is that it creates an atmosphere of frenzied buying and hoarding. I have little doubt that California citizens are some of the most (if not THE most) heavily armed people in America…

It’s actually the efforts of the lib-tards that have all of the law-abiding citizens buying guns and ammo in an effort to avoid bans, shortages and draconian control measures.

It also puts WAY more guns “on the street”. How? I’ve been forced (in the past) by CA’s laws to sell-off guns that I wanted to keep. Did they think that I’d just sell my guns and NOT replace them with something that was legal? So all that does is create more second-hand firearms and drive the sales of new ones..

[NonPCnraRN]

+1 For what Slick said. I bought 2 complete AR-15s (Colt) and one lower (Bushmaster) before the assault weapon ban in Kalipornia. They are safe queens. I have to be careful which upper I put on which lower as the Colts are preban/ban and the Bushy is post ban/ban. Kalipornia had a ban within the federal ban so the Colts can have uppers with flash hiders and the Bushmaster must have a plain barrel or a muzzle brake that looks like a flash hider. I had been wanting an AR-15 since I was a kid in the 70s but never bought one because it was always on the bottom of the list of "must haves". The ban changed all that.

[gary rice]

As most of you have heard Fresno, Ca was where I was born and lived for 41 years. Some things about the state I really miss, like being at 6k feet in an hour at Shaver lake. Or swimming in the Pacific in 3 hours. San Diego. Everything North of Sacramento. Fresh corn tortillas.

But there is a WHOLE LOT of stuff I don't miss. So much so that I'm not even going to start.

I'm so happy that here I can walk into the local gun stores, find a gun I want, pay my money, wait 5 minutes for a phone call and walk out with my new friend. I don't HAVE to have a friendly relationship with the Sheriff like I did with Magarian to get a CCW permit. I have that here only because my oldest daughter is the asst warden at the regional jail. WV is a WILL issue state. The new incoming Sheriff is a Brother

Guys, if you can, get out. I was fortunate. Close family was deceased and work offered me a great incentive package to move here. I'm really glad I did.

hey im working on it, (getting out) this place is a toilet pure and simple. i voted for this creep scharzenegger the first time but not the second time, i saw it coming, tghe liberal anti gun rhetoric. we all need to really pray that the supreme court will confirm in the strongest manner possible that the 2nd amendment is an individual right. alot of guys are sure they will, im not so sure especially after the latest ruling giving terrorists constitutional rights. i was just reading last night an abridged copy of california gun laws put out by crpa and even after being here my whole life i got sick to my stomach just reviewing all the assininity. my son and i own a security patrol company here and we all carry sidearms, i just hope we never have to use them especially here. we are guilty automatically until proven otherwise.