Which is more vauable?

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:30 pm

An original 1886 Winchester made in 1888 with half octagon barrel in 45-70 that has been buffed and reblued or a new winchester 1886 rifle made in 2008 in 45-70 NIB.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:12 pm

Ooooo. Toughy.

The Modern 86 will take hotter handloads, but the '88-'86 still has history & cool factor out the wazoo - even if it has been reblued.

I'd probably pay more for the 88-86 all things else being equal.

I'm gonna shoot either of them anyway.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:13 pm

For me I'd say the one made in 2008. I wouldn't be afraid to shoot it.

I think it would depend on how"buffed out" the old one was though.

runfiverun · Post by **runfiverun** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:31 pm

88-86
no question a nice re-work is not a problem

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:40 pm

Well, the original one could be restored by somebody like Trunbull and then it'd be worth a lot more.... even with the investment.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:47 pm

O.S.O.K. wrote:Well, the original one could be restored by somebody like Trunbull and then it'd be worth a lot more.... even with the investment.

I agree. Plus it won't have all those silly add-on liability parts that don't hold up well over time. Restored 86's regularly bring 4 to 5 thousand and up.

Idiot · Post by **Idiot** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:50 pm

Until 1899 the M1886 was made to handle black powder cartridges only. It wasn't until after 1899 and the introduction/use of nickle steel that the M1886 could handle higher pressure smokeless powder charges. So, to me, a shooter and a hunter, the M1886 built in '88 would be of little value. It would, however, make a good wall hanger, or very good trading material.

NIB M1886 Winchester is much stronger and able to handle the higher pressure loadings. However, if I'm not mistaken, the new Winchesters also have tang safeties and other "safety" features that make them, in my view, a lot less attractive. But they are stronger, so to me they are more valuable.

How about a Browning M1886 without all the extra "safety" bumps and blemishes. Now that's the one I want and the one I think is the most valuable.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:54 pm

Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:
O.S.O.K. wrote:Well, the original one could be restored by somebody like Trunbull and then it'd be worth a lot more.... even with the investment.
I agree. Plus it won't have all those silly add-on liability parts that don't hold up well over time. Restored 86's regularly bring 4 to 5 thousand and up.

BINGO!!!

20cows · Post by **20cows** » Thu May 15, 2008 5:45 am

The old girl needs a good home!

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Thu May 15, 2008 6:50 am

Well, I passed on it this past weekend; the old one. I am not thinking about buying a new one, but when I saw this old one with a half octagon barrel looking like a new one I was curious. It had been totally redone and looked good, but they had really buff it. The bore was average. The guy that owned it had got it for some type of silhouette shooting but decided the 45-70 was too much for a long day of shooting. He wanted 1200.00 for it. I figured a new one made by Winchester would b around 1500.00 at least. He has had it for a while so I probably could have had it for less, but since I have two old original 1886s I passed. I also didn't know about shooting modern ammo in a 45-70 that old. One of mine is a 38-56 made in 1889. I shoot it pretty often. I may try and trade it from him in the future. It will probably go up in value better than other re-blues.

Grizzly Adams · Post by **Grizzly Adams** » Thu May 15, 2008 9:01 am

To me, the condition of the bore would be the decision maker. A nicely refinished original 1886 with a so-so bore is just a safe queen.

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