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Today I saw a Winchester 94 that didn't turn purple when blued.
A little history ... About two months ago an individual wanted their 94 blued. The dealer the individual went to brings his repair work to the shop where I help at on weekends. The guy was warned by the dealer and by us that the action would turn some shade of purple. He said to go ahead. True to form, everything came out great except for the action. We returned it to the dealer who gave it to the customer. The man paid for it but came back about two weeks later and complained. The short version ... the dealer had gone hunting in Canada and while there learned about a place in Kansas that could put a non-purple finish on the action. The dealer contacted the place and ...
Today the dealer brought the rifle to us to put together ... although the finish was matted, it was not purple. It is not a traditional bluing process but can be matted or shiny. The shade matched our blue on the rest of the rifle perfectly ... except for the matting.
The place has been bought by someone in the past few weeks but still does the work. The address and phone number I have is:
Paul Salchow
Simmons Gun Repair and Sales
700 South Rogers Road
Olathe, Kansas 66062
(913) 782-3131
Last edited by oldgerboy on Sat May 10, 2008 3:50 pm, edited 5 times in total.
Sorry, but no I didn't have the camera at work. It will still be there next weekend so if I remember to take my camera I'll get some. Maybe there is a member here that is near the place or can get us more info.
The dealer told me they used some other type finish that mimics the "blue". I can't verify that.
Sixgun, I know we have covered this here before but how long would the rust blue have taken. The turn-around time was just a few days.
I know my info is not rock solid but it is all I have. I was hoping someone from that area could check it out.
I also have heard that bluing tanks set up for stainless can blue the 94's OK. Maybe that is how they do it. The blue our shop ends up with is a dark almost black type blue and they matched it.
oldgerboy,
If the turn around time was only a few days, then it was not rust-blue. Working steady, its at a minimun of a week to ten days. It can be rushed a bit with a humidy box but you still have to let each coat set up a day or so after boiling--to do the job right-----------------------Sixgun
1st. Gen. Colt SAA’s, 1878 D.A.45 and a 38-55 Marlin TD
This NEEDS updated. The guys at the shop were putting the 94 together today and discovered ALL internal dimentions were messed up. This process is some type of coating and they apparently dipped it since the inside is coated.
They can't get the parts back in ... the coating closed up all the tolerances.
We finally found out what they used on the 94 ... regular old Duracoat from Brownells. Jake called them ... their reply ... "we had to paint the whole thing. It was only 3 thousandths of an inch thick"
Jakes reply to them was nor ever will be printable ... it was not kind and the term "blue" would definitely apply.
He basically explained the concepts of operating tolerances and masking off areas.
It took many hours to get the rifle cleaned up, together, and operable.
My only comment concerns their concept of .003 ... they apparently use a yard stick to measure with.
