How many levers in this old photo?

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:26 pm

I know you members that have been here awhile know the answer, but the new ones need a little fun during the off season. IMHO

claybob86 · Post by **claybob86** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:38 pm

I see 6.

Post by **Hobie** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:40 pm

I'd love to have that Savage 99 on the far left. You KNOW there has to be a story behind that gun being there!

Bluehawk · Post by **Bluehawk** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:50 pm

Your right Hobie At first I thouhg it was a 95 but it is a 99 Or appears to be any way
Id love to know what cal. it is and the story too that has to be the odd one there COOL picture though

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:57 pm

Well, it's pretty hard for me to make some of them out, so I may be wrong, but think I see Left to right:

Savage 99
Winchester 86
Winchester 94, I am really guessing on this one
Winchester 73
Winchester 94
Winchester 86
Winchester 73

I see seven leveractions

And of course a few probably spanish 7x57 mausers in there too.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:48 pm

Lastmohecken wrote:Well, it's pretty hard for me to make some of them out, so I may be wrong, but think I see Left to right:

Savage 99
Winchester 86
Winchester 94, I am really guessing on this one
Winchester 73
Winchester 94
Winchester 86
Winchester 73

I see seven leveractions

And of course a few probably spanish 7x57 mausers in there too.

I am in agreement with you. The '94 in the middle looks like it could be a 22" short rifle. I would like to add that the second guy on the left has destroyed the collectors value on that 86 by adding sling swivels! Dope--No wonder we have so many butchered guns out there. Didn't he realize that one day those guns would be worth a small fortune!

------------Sixgun

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:39 pm

Sixgun wrote:
Lastmohecken wrote:Well, it's pretty hard for me to make some of them out, so I may be wrong, but think I see Left to right:

Savage 99
Winchester 86
Winchester 94, I am really guessing on this one
Winchester 73
Winchester 94
Winchester 86
Winchester 73

I see seven leveractions

And of course a few probably spanish 7x57 mausers in there too.

I am in agreement with you. The '94 in the middle looks like it could be a 22" short rifle. I would like to add that the second guy on the left has destroyed the collectors value on that 86 by adding sling swivels! Dope--No wonder we have so many butchered guns out there. Didn't he realize that one day those guns would be worth a small fortune! ------------Sixgun

You got a point, regarding that sling, but somehow, when I look into those men's faces in that picture, I doubt if the question of lowering the collector value of their guns, ever came up, as I am sure you would agree. And darn it, that was probably a Deluxe model to boot.

airedaleman · Post by **airedaleman** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:59 pm

I make it seven too. I still like the Anglo; he's armed to the teeth! Check the fixed bayonet on his Mauser.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:10 pm

Is that a marlin in the lower right corner?
Nath.

cubrock · Post by **cubrock** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:20 pm

Took me a while, but I finally found that 73. Here is what I see:

Leverdude · Post by **Leverdude** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:56 pm

Nath wrote:Is that a marlin in the lower right corner?
Nath.

I think it looks ALOT like a model 1889 Marlin myself.

airedaleman · Post by **airedaleman** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:35 pm

I really think it's a Winchester '73 or '76. Look at the bottom om the receiver, and you can make out the bottom of the lifter...

pharmseller · Post by **pharmseller** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:36 pm

cubrock wrote:Took me a while, but I finally found that 73. Here is what I see:

I think you missed the cannon. It's the one with the big hole in the middle of the picture.

Quinn

cubrock · Post by **cubrock** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:38 pm

Yeah, I figured someone would point out the obvious.

I was running out of room for arrows and labels!

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:39 pm

Any ideas where/when it was taken? Neat pic!

cubrock · Post by **cubrock** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:43 pm

awp101 wrote:Any ideas where/when it was taken? Neat pic!

If I had to guess, those are Mexican revolutionaries around the turn of the centuryish, maybe up into the 19-teens. Wonder which faction they are?

Leverdude · Post by **Leverdude** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:53 pm

airedaleman wrote:I really think it's a Winchester '73 or '76. Look at the bottom om the receiver, and you can make out the bottom of the lifter...

I blew it up & it looks like your right.

airedaleman · Post by **airedaleman** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:32 pm

Suspect it's a '73. They had enough logigistical problems without trying to keep someone in 45-75 cartridges (not to mention the less popular '76
chamberings...).

cubrock · Post by **cubrock** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:43 pm

airedaleman wrote:Suspect it's a '73. They had enough logigistical problems without trying to keep someone in 45-75 cartridges (not to mention the less popular '76
chamberings...).

No kidding! That picture already shows a plethora of different cartridges in use. For instance, there could be 7X57 (for sure), .44 WCF, .30 WCF, .45-70, and .303 Savage all represented. And that is just for starters!

Musta been tough being a revolutionary supply sergeant in those days!

airedaleman · Post by **airedaleman** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:26 pm

RangeRider 7, thanks for posting that picture again. It's a classic When I was a kid I fantasized about being a gun runner/mercenary in Mexico. Country fascinated me. Managed to wander around Ciudad Juarez for a day or two about - lessee - 43 years ago without getting in trouble. On the way to Kennedy to catch a flight to El Paso then, I stopped in a gun shop and wound up with an 1894 SRC in 25-35. I paid $65.00 for it and stowed it under the front seat of my '64 Falcon wagon. Left it there for a week in the parking lot at Kennedy. Probably couldn't do that now.

Boy, did I butcher "logistical.!"

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:23 am

Iâ€™m kinda curious about the cannon.

Can any of you cannon buffs tell by the picture
what the bore size is? Or should the terminology
be in pounds, like a 2 pounder or 6 pounder?

Do you think it is a smooth bore or a rifled bore?

Man I sure love old pictures.

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:26 am

One of the members did the circling of the photo to point out the levers. When I found this old photo It was titled "Mexican rebels with homemade cannon, 1911".

Leverdude · Post by **Leverdude** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:44 am

The carriage might be homemade but that looks like a regular 19th century cast cannon. To me anyway but I'm not an expert.
Just a guess maybe a 6 pounder?
Thats a pretty cool homemade undermuzzle mounted recoil buffer too aint it!