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barbarossa's thread about the carbine he is looking at (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42404) and Nath's short Enfield has gotten me to thinking. Dangerous, I know...
If a person were to start looking for such a thing, what models would one look for? Let's say percussion from the Civil War era to the 1890s, US or European. Quality replicas are fine since one would want to shoot it rather than collect/look at it.
Thanks!
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Pedersoli makes a really neat CSA Cook's Brothers Carbine. Nice finish and Cabela's has them for $200 off right now....still $799.....go to the Pedersoli website and you can check out several other carbines from the War of Northern Agression Period....
Now I'm more inclined to go with a Sharps or Maynard carbine or short rifle . Also Navy I believe it was had a pretty nice looking copy of a Civil War Gallagher carbine as well .
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One of these showed up just after I got my musketoon made by Zoli, I was a little sad about it as I had a Zoli Zouave that in smooth shot 3" groups to 60yds but was way to heavy to carry all day of which I likes to do etc.
What ever you do bed the barrel in the stock snug and make sure the nipple barrel ain't touching the lock. Mine is bedded on layers of greased canvass. They shoot tighter then.
My smooth bored musketoon is good with 1oz of shot to beyond 25yds, don't sound to good but it is when shot from a blind or sneaking about looking for sittin' stuff. From one blind of mine I tip 1/2oz of very rough home made shot and similar amount of powder, maybe a card stack for a wad or just a ball of news paper and wait for a pheasant to pass. Ten yard usually.
The longer barreled smoothbores I have owned of .58 were effective beyond 30yds with a good ounce.
One of my "someday" projects is to build a 20", 20ga underhammer trade gun...
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Musketoon, that was the term I couldn't think of! Thanks!
Thanks for the ideas on what models to look for. What's the story on the New Englander? It could be had with a 12ga barrel? Is that option specific to the .50 or .54?
The Enfield (1856?) still has my vote...
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
Here s one it s an Indian made copy of an Enfield carbine it s smoothbore and 65 cal or 16ga with a 26inch barrel it also has a swivel ramrod they go for about $400
I was just at the National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg and they have two Confederate Carbines that look like a Cook Carbine, but the barrels are even shorter....I'm thinking 13 to 14". Need to get pictures next time I go there as they were so interesting. Alot of Wheeler's and Forrest's men would have been toting those or those like them, in addition to short double shotguns and revolvers. I like the look of the short carbines, but do wonder what the ballistics would be on that short of a black powder burn. For short range work, probably fine enough.
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barbarossa wrote:Here s one it s an Indian made copy of an Enfield carbine it s smoothbore and 65 cal or 16ga with a 26inch barrel it also has a swivel ramrod they go for about $400
Where did you find that little cutie? Were the originals smoothbored or rifled?
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits.
-Mark Twain
Proverbs 3:5; Philippians 4:13
Got to have a Jones for this
Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
I deer hunted with a White Mountain carbine in .50 for 15 years.Killed a heap of deer with it.Sold it about six years ago and bought a New Englander in .54.To my estimation, Thompson-Center makes the best muzzle loader in the US.
I REALLY like Nath's Enfield.
Stan in SC
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Both the .54 and .50 TC New Englanders have 1:48 twist. The shotgun barrel fits either and one can fit the .50 on the .54 stock or the other way 'round if you want. Mine is accurate with RB over 50 gr. and the heaviest conicals over 100 gr. of powder, black or Pyrodex. I paid $157 delivered to get mine from Mid-South but that was almost 20 years ago!
Sincerely,
Hobie
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I have a TC new englander in 12ga and also a 50cal kit that I bought a while ago still new in the box unassembled.I
was thinking on converting the 12ga to flint .Would make a handy little flint fowler but I may just leave it alone and buy a Pedersoli Mortimer instead.
