I've been looking into the Gamo CFX air rifles for a while now. In a month or so I'll be up north for a couple of weeks and I hope to bring an air rifle back down with me. My question is, how good are the Air Venturi systems? http://www.midwayusa.com/ has the CFX in both "regular" and the "new and improved" versions.
The regular one is here:
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/gamo-cfx-br ... ifle.shtml
The "new and improved" is here:
http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/model ... el_id=1523
My question is, is the Air Venturi gas spring $130 better than the regular version? I like the idea of the gas spring, but WOW - $130 more is quite steep. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to swing the standard version, but the gas spring version looks intriguing. My main idea for this rifle is to get a chance at 50 meter shooting up at the club. The 22 should be a bit more resistant to wind drift than the 177. Plus I MIGHT be able to convince them to allow me to use it in the informal 22 caliber prone contests.
Anyway, I'm curious as to whether any of y'all might have experience with the Air Venturi gas spring system.
Thanks!
Paul - pondering in Pereira
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Paul - in Pereira
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Paul,
The air venturri or gas spring was developed by Theoben, one of the finest makers of air rifles in the free world. The benefits of the system are a more consistant shot to shot impulse of air, lower decibels, better trigger, and a potential increase in power, less vibration, a less sensitive rilfe. All of those factors make the system potentially more user friendly and potentially, more accurate. With each different air rifle, you must find the sweet spot. Some rifles, because of their recoil affect, can't be shot off of a rest because the double recoil affect will throw the shots off. The spring air rifles need to be cradled in your hand and the recoil is absorbed through your body. The gas air system is not so bad but still requires the shooter to learn the rifle and find how it likes to be shot to maximize the potential.
As for caliber - the .177 shoots flatter and offers less hold over. .20 shoots flatter than .22 yet retains energy better than the .177 and is favored for longer shots of 50-70 yards for field use. the .22 is the favorite among air rifle hunters in the US, retains great energy but shoots in a greater arc. The .25 is a great air caliber but is difficult to find pellets for at any local store.
By far the most popular calibers are .177 for close in pest control and field shooting, and .22 carrying the majority of the hunting duty. .20 is very popular in the US for Field Target. .25 is not seen nearly as much as the other three and would be considered a dedicated hunting caliber.
Europe favors the .177 for most of their shooting.
My current air rifle battery after recent acquisitions:
.177 Crossman quest - 1000fps Was my main battery and took pests out to 30 yards with authority. Gave to my brother
Benjamin .22 from MAC1 - a benjamin 392 on steroids has a williams peep and a beefier power plant. Takes 14 pumps instead of the normal 8. Has a longer handle which gives more leverage. my back door gun and basement shooter.
HW97K - 20cal. Has a 3-9x40 scope. This underlever rifle comes in at 16fpe and shoots in the 960fps range. Has an amazing trigger and is an exceptional hunter and FT rifle. Has a built in silencer.
Rapid E from Theoben in .22 - this is a PCP gun with a silencer baffle. Hard hitting: 28fpe. no recoil. my primary pest/hunting rifle. multi shot rifle.
Webley .177 pistol. my field pistol. very fun and fairly accurate.
Benkel .177 target pistol. very accurate. My competition pistol.
Good luck with your choices.
\
\MIke
The air venturri or gas spring was developed by Theoben, one of the finest makers of air rifles in the free world. The benefits of the system are a more consistant shot to shot impulse of air, lower decibels, better trigger, and a potential increase in power, less vibration, a less sensitive rilfe. All of those factors make the system potentially more user friendly and potentially, more accurate. With each different air rifle, you must find the sweet spot. Some rifles, because of their recoil affect, can't be shot off of a rest because the double recoil affect will throw the shots off. The spring air rifles need to be cradled in your hand and the recoil is absorbed through your body. The gas air system is not so bad but still requires the shooter to learn the rifle and find how it likes to be shot to maximize the potential.
As for caliber - the .177 shoots flatter and offers less hold over. .20 shoots flatter than .22 yet retains energy better than the .177 and is favored for longer shots of 50-70 yards for field use. the .22 is the favorite among air rifle hunters in the US, retains great energy but shoots in a greater arc. The .25 is a great air caliber but is difficult to find pellets for at any local store.
By far the most popular calibers are .177 for close in pest control and field shooting, and .22 carrying the majority of the hunting duty. .20 is very popular in the US for Field Target. .25 is not seen nearly as much as the other three and would be considered a dedicated hunting caliber.
Europe favors the .177 for most of their shooting.
My current air rifle battery after recent acquisitions:
.177 Crossman quest - 1000fps Was my main battery and took pests out to 30 yards with authority. Gave to my brother
Benjamin .22 from MAC1 - a benjamin 392 on steroids has a williams peep and a beefier power plant. Takes 14 pumps instead of the normal 8. Has a longer handle which gives more leverage. my back door gun and basement shooter.
HW97K - 20cal. Has a 3-9x40 scope. This underlever rifle comes in at 16fpe and shoots in the 960fps range. Has an amazing trigger and is an exceptional hunter and FT rifle. Has a built in silencer.
Rapid E from Theoben in .22 - this is a PCP gun with a silencer baffle. Hard hitting: 28fpe. no recoil. my primary pest/hunting rifle. multi shot rifle.
Webley .177 pistol. my field pistol. very fun and fairly accurate.
Benkel .177 target pistol. very accurate. My competition pistol.
Good luck with your choices.
\
\MIke
Mike Johnson,
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
Mike,
I see you have a 392 from Mac1. I've thought about one of them a few times after reading his description of the gun. Could you give a more detailed explanation of your thoughts on the gun? I have a 392 but it hasn't been worked on by Mac1.
Would you buy it again? Personally I've always liked the idea of an American made rifle even though it has been tweaked.
Thanks,
Rusty <><
I see you have a 392 from Mac1. I've thought about one of them a few times after reading his description of the gun. Could you give a more detailed explanation of your thoughts on the gun? I have a 392 but it hasn't been worked on by Mac1.
Would you buy it again? Personally I've always liked the idea of an American made rifle even though it has been tweaked.
Thanks,
Rusty <><
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Rusty,
If you own a 392, then do yourself a favor and have MAC1 do the extra work on it. You bump up velocity (and hence power) by a third, Effort of cocking is cut because of the leverage gained by the mods, and by adding the williams sight, accuracy was improved. I considered putting a scope on it but the scope would go exactly in the best place to hold it for pumping. Pumping 14 times means for a full power shot you can work up a sweat using this rifle but then again, it is kind of a stand alone rifle, no need for added tanks or pumps (as for my PCP Theoben) and it is shorter and more manageable than my spring air (HW97K). It is a perfect back door rifle and for plinking and woods walking, It is perfect. I will use it more often than not for shots at critters on the ground in the neighborhood. For precision shots, I shoot the HW97K with scope. The PCP gun is used in the woods only or at farms for pest control and such. I have been making the rounds and offering my services to rid barns of rats and feral pigeons, starlings and crows. I also offer to help with some manual labor to pave the way to shooting opportunities. The MAC1 conversions are not costly, and do a really fine job on an already great Pellet rifle.
If you own a 392, then do yourself a favor and have MAC1 do the extra work on it. You bump up velocity (and hence power) by a third, Effort of cocking is cut because of the leverage gained by the mods, and by adding the williams sight, accuracy was improved. I considered putting a scope on it but the scope would go exactly in the best place to hold it for pumping. Pumping 14 times means for a full power shot you can work up a sweat using this rifle but then again, it is kind of a stand alone rifle, no need for added tanks or pumps (as for my PCP Theoben) and it is shorter and more manageable than my spring air (HW97K). It is a perfect back door rifle and for plinking and woods walking, It is perfect. I will use it more often than not for shots at critters on the ground in the neighborhood. For precision shots, I shoot the HW97K with scope. The PCP gun is used in the woods only or at farms for pest control and such. I have been making the rounds and offering my services to rid barns of rats and feral pigeons, starlings and crows. I also offer to help with some manual labor to pave the way to shooting opportunities. The MAC1 conversions are not costly, and do a really fine job on an already great Pellet rifle.
Mike Johnson,
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot