348 loads

[bcboy]

Someone here used to have a spreadsheet on 348 loads was wondering if anyone remembered?? I have a 39 Deluxe and a browning carbine and sure could use some more data.
Appreciate any help

[1886]

Welcome bcboy. There is quite a bit of data floating around. Plenty of guys here shoot that round. You did not state just what type of loads you are seeking. Be more specific and you will get much feedback. FYI, Rifle's Handloader magazine Dec.2001 No. 214 had a good article on the .348. Tele is 520 445-7810. They may have some additional copies. Regards, 1886.

[BigSky56]

From the Lyman #45 loading manual : 200 gr jacketed bullet IMR 4895 accuracy load 53 grs for 2450 fps, factory duplication load 53.3 grs for 2469 fps and max load is 54 grs for 2506 fps. I use the 53 gr accuracy load and it does graph @ 2450 with a 200 gr hornady and groups 3/4"at 100 yds in my brning 71 it works great on deer and elk. danny

[RKrodle]

From the Lyman #45 loading manual : 200 gr jacketed bullet IMR 4895 accuracy load 53 grs for 2450 fps, factory duplication load 53.3 grs for 2469 fps and max load is 54 grs for 2506 fps. I use the 53 gr accuracy load and it does graph @ 2450 with a 200 gr hornady and groups 3/4"at 100 yds in my brning 71 it works great on deer and elk. danny

I use about the same load but with H4895 and get good results. Hodgdon's web site says a MAX of 55 for 2591fps. I use 54 with a mag primer and get 2586 fps. Hodgdon's has a good bit of data for the 348 with the 200 gr Hornady bullet.

[44LVR]

I'm a big fan of 65grs of 3100 with the 200gr Hornady. A bit over 2500fps and less than 1" groups at 100 yards. Though 60grs of 3100 is considered max for the Barnes 250gr, my rifle will only handle 58grs. For the life of me I can't remember the velocity but accuracy was a bit over 1" at 100 yards. I also use 58grs of 3100 for any cast bullets from 225grs to 265grs with fantastic accuracy.

44

[flatnose]

bcboy,
I have the spredsheet you are looking for. My old puters harddrive crashed, but I think I have it on a CD. It will take me a while to find it. I will stick it up on the board when I do.
P.S this is not my own spreadsheet, but it was kindly sent to me by one of the board members here.

[flatnose]

OK,
I found it. It is on a microsoft excel spreadsheet. I dont know how to post that here, and it would probably take up a bit of room to do so.
I will check to se if you have an e-mail which I can send it to.

[RKrodle]

OK,
I found it. It is on a microsoft excel spreadsheet. I dont know how to post that here, and it would probably take up a bit of room to do so.
I will check to se if you have an e-mail which I can send it to.

Flatnose,

If you don't mind, would you please send me a copy also.
Thanks

RKrodle@aol.com

[bcboy]

Mostly lookin for info on 250gr originals and R19.. Also/ I just found 10 boxes of 220gr. X bullets..and I am not sure where to start.
Plus i have a box of 500 255gr gc. cast bullets.

Mostly the cast to be shot in my 39 original... the 250 gr. and the 220 X's in my Browning..

my e-mail is davidrwilson@telus.net

thanks guys

[flatnose]

Ricky,
I have sent the file to you. Please let me know if it works ok, or if you have any problems opening it.
All the best.

[flatnose]

bcboy,
I have sent you a copy as well. Should have it by now.

[bcboy]

thanks

[salvo]

flatnose, could you also send me a copy?
salvo15@yahoo.com

[71fan]

Please give kudos to the original author of the spreadsheet - SkyC - who I don't think posts here anymore. He put a heck of a lot of work into that spreadsheet and was very kind to share it. I've studied and played with that spreadsheet for countless hours...it's very useful for 348 shooters.

[RKrodle]

Ricky,
I have sent the file to you. Please let me know if it works ok, or if you have any problems opening it.
All the best.

I received it and it opened up fine. Thanks a lot. There is a ton of information in it . I can occupy many hours just looking though it.

Please give kudos to the original author of the spreadsheet - SkyC - who I don't think posts here anymore. He put a heck of a lot of work into that spreadsheet and was very kind to share it. I've studied and played with that spreadsheet for countless hours...it's very useful for 348 shooters.

Kudos to SkyC for all his time and effort also.

[Rimfire McNutjob]

How many rows are in this gem? Too much to post? Can I get a copy at bill@dangly.com?

[RKrodle]

How many rows are in this gem? Too much to post? Can I get a copy at bill@dangly.com?

There's almost 500 rows of loads!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I'll forward it on to you.

[Idiot]

Also/ I just found 10 boxes of 220gr. X bullets..and I am not sure where to start.

10 boxes of 220 grain Barnes X-Bullets is a small treasure to be sure. I've got a couple boxes and hope to land a few more when they turn up at guns shows I attend - they are a rare find these days. You can get data for them out of Barnes' loading manual or by emailing Barnes Bullets and requesting the data. Data from other bullets do not translate well to X-Bullets. X-Bullets have a much longer bearing surface than simple copper cup and lead core bullets and will sometimes exceed safe pressures when using cup and core data. If you get a good load worked up with the 220 X-Bullet you will be set for everything the .348 is made to hunt - it will open enough on deer to kill it quickly and it will penetrate the big mean stuff as well as the 250 grain stuff. Like I said, you hit the jackpot with those bullets.

[Rimfire McNutjob]

Looks like I'll be needing a can of RL-19.

[71fan]

FYI, whoever is interested, I have the Barnes reloading manual with the 200 and 220 X bullets listed.

Also, I have a copy of the 2001 Handloader article that is referenced on the spreadsheet.

And yes, RL-19 seems to be the way to go for a nice balance between accuracy and velocity/power. It's not the fastest, but it's close, and it is seems to be the most accurate.

As a note, make sure to scroll all the way to the right and note the barrel lengths. I set up a new column and added 75 fps to all of the loads that used a 20" barrel so I was comparing apples to apples.

Have fun!!

[flatnose]

Guys, 71fan is correct. I was trying to remember who sent me the original info, and it was indeed SkyC. Credit goes to him for all of his hard work he put into this.
I have my own additional load information here somewhere if I can find it. All my data is for the 348 hornady 200grn bullet. I still have not found a load that I would consider the bee's knee's as far as absolute accuracy goes, but am still working towards it. It has been a bit of a bear to sort this cartridge out.
I will post more info when I find it.
Has anyone stumbled upon a good accuracy load yet? I am looking for sub inch loads at 100yds, or what do you have?

[71fan]

Has anyone stumbled upon a good accuracy load yet? I am looking for sub inch loads at 100yds, or what do you have?

I have NOT found the sweet load yet, but I can tell you I've played around with H-4831 and H-4831SC quite a bit in my '56. I haven't had luck so far, with 3" being the best, but that rifle is very finicky. I picked this powder based on a long study of the SkyC spreadsheet - it seemed to be the most accurate. Oh well, not in my rifle.

[Yodar]

Howdy .348 WCF Fans,

The gentlman who compiled the spreadsheet with the .348 loads is Skyler Child of Longmont, Colrado, (303) 682-2424. Information current as of August, 2004.

A load I have developed that shoots acceptabily well in my Model 71 is as follows: Winchester cases and primers, 53 grains of IMR-4350, 250 grain Barnes Originals JSP, OAL= 2.79", Lee crimped. Muzzle velocity averaged around 2070 fps. This load very nearly duplicates the 250 grain factory load.

A more user-friendly load is as follows: Winchester cases and primers, 24 1/2 grains of IMR-4198, 250 grain Lyman #350482 cast-lead, gas-check round nose bullet, OAL=2.79", Lee crimped. Muzzle velocity averaged around 1600 fps.

Have fun and be careful.

[salvo]

I sure would appreciate a copy of Skylers spread sheet, if you could?
salvo15@yahoo.com

[BigSky56]

flatnose
53 grs of IMR 4895 @ 2450 fps gives me 3/4" 3 shot group at 100 with peep sights in a brning 71 24" bbl and a 200 gr hornady. This load is from the Lyman #45 load manual and is listed as a accuracy load. danny

[ArcticGoose]

If it wouldn't be too much trouble, would you please send me a copy also. I love my 71 and always enjoy finding new loads to try.

rogerandlaura@hotmail.com

[flatnose]

Bigsky,
Thanks. I do not have that particular powder, but have tried the slightly slower win748 with fair results. I have many pounds of aa2200, which is just a tad faster than the IMR4895. If I can work out a load for that, I may see an interesting result.
Do you have the browning version or the winchester? Rifle or carbine?
Thanks.

[thornblom]

thanks

[Idiot]

Hey Bubba, good to see you're posting again. I guess you just had to wait until a proper cartridge topic came up.

I'm going to try your 200 grain load using WW-760. I currently make the same load using 58 grains of IMR4350, but would like to try a powder that meters a little better. I'd just about bet a milk shake that your load is identical (except for bullet) to Winchester's factory load - they use WW-760 in a number of their factory offerings.

Anyway, take care old timer.

[Wrangler John]

Not wanting to shill for Wolf Publishing, but I start looking for loads at http://www.loaddata.com where they have a database of 180,000+ loads. Including excerpts from all the recent manuals. Costs $30.00 a year. One load listed there shows the Barnes 250 with 59.0 of AAC 3100 producing 2134 fps and .5" group! Whoa - what the heck?

Next is http://www.hodgdon.com includes IMR and Winchester data, and it's free.

My very own faded notebook stuck under the computer monitor, shows the best carbine load: 200 grain Hornady, with 53.0 H4895 powder, 210 Federal Primer. This load generated an average velocity of 2,492 fps with a spread of 13 fps and a SD of 6!

A good idea is to always check loads, from dorks like me posting on forums, against published sources to be sure they fall within the range of safe loads. The Hodgdon Reloading Center shows a maximum 55 grains of H4895 for the Hornady bullet at 35,500 psi.

Also, I use the Lee Factory Crimp Die for this cartridge, as Thornblom mentions, after trimming in an RCBS file-type trim die to be certain the cases are all the same factory length. The trim die is just easier and quicker for me to use, as it provides a visual check on case length without using the dial caliper and doing all the adjustments to a lathe trimmer.

[1886]

My B 71 carbine likes 60grs of RL-19 with the 250gr Barnes ignited by a Fed 210 primer. Very accurate and clocks 2200fps. 1886.

[thornblom]

thanks

[RKrodle]

Not wanting to shill for Wolf Publishing, but I start looking for loads at http://www.loaddata.com where they have a database of 180,000+ loads. Including excerpts from all the recent manuals. Costs $30.00 a year. One load listed there shows the Barnes 250 with 59.0 of AAC 3100 producing 2134 fps and .5" group! Whoa - what the heck?

Next is http://www.hodgdon.com includes IMR and Winchester data, and it's free.

I also subscribed to loaddata. It has lots of loads for just about everything, and I constantly refer to Hodgdons web site for information. Both are good stuff.