Heavy, heavy bullets in the 92 .357 mag.

1886 · Post by **1886** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:32 am

I would like to continue to play with heavy, heavy bullets in my B-92 .357 mag. I have some Mt.Baldy 230gr LBT style gas checked projectiles sized .358. They are .980" long. Please share any data/experience you may have. I prefer to stay with H-110/296. Thanks, 1886.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:02 am

I don't think you'll get enough velocity to stabilize it. What's the twist rate in the Browning? 1:16 might get stabilized if you can get it up to 1400 fps. I've only used 2400 and Lil'Gun in the 357.

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:09 am

1886 wrote:I would like to continue to play with heavy, heavy bullets in my B-92 .357 mag. I have some Mt.Baldy 230gr LBT style gas checked projectiles sized .358. They are .980" long. Please share any data/experience you may have. I prefer to stay with H-110/296. Thanks, 1886.

To date what bullet type and weight has given you the best results
From your B-92

1886 · Post by **1886** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:49 pm

I have little doubt the bullet can be driven fast enough. Twist is either 1-14 or 1-16. Certainly ample. I know H-110/296 at 105% or 5% compression ignited by CCI small pistol mag. primers would probably work well enough. I was just curious if anyone had tried heavy, heavy bullets in their 92 .357 mag. 1886.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:53 pm

OTOH, I'd love to be able to keep them stabilized at 25yds at 500fps...

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:32 pm

These are the words of Veral Smith himself so this is his opinion...

If you load jacketed bullets in a 357 lever gun you'll be limiting velocity by a good 200 fps, while running the jacketed at more velocity then it was probably designed for (revolver use).

Stick with lead, in the FN profile to get a good sized killing flat, made hard enough so they don't expand and drive them fast. The little toy gun will kill like a 30-06 out to 200 yards with the 180 gr, and probably 150 yards with the 160 gr.

Start velocity will be about 1800 fps with the 180 gr and it retains it's speed better then the 160 gr, while being more accurate, because of it's greater bearing length. 180 gr is optimum weight, shooting stunningly flat for a revolver cartridge. 160 gr gives up in one direction while 200 bogs velocity down a bit too much.

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:15 am

Rusty wrote:These are the words of Veral Smith himself so this is his opinion...

If you load jacketed bullets in a 357 lever gun you'll be limiting velocity by a good 200 fps, while running the jacketed at more velocity then it was probably designed for (revolver use).

Stick with lead, in the FN profile to get a good sized killing flat, made hard enough so they don't expand and drive them fast. The little toy gun will kill like a 30-06 out to 200 yards with the 180 gr, and probably 150 yards with the 160 gr.

Start velocity will be about 1800 fps with the 180 gr and it retains it's speed better then the 160 gr, while being more accurate, because of it's greater bearing length. 180 gr is optimum weight, shooting stunningly flat for a revolver cartridge. 160 gr gives up in one direction while 200 bogs velocity down a bit too much.

Thanks for the informative information.
When ordering .357 ammo. from Double Tap I wasn’t
sure whether to get the 180 gr. or the 200 gr.
Looks like I made the right choice with the 180's.

Coldfingers · Post by **Coldfingers** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:36 am

Rusty...thanks for posting that. I have been most impressed with the performance of my 94C when pushing a 180gr gas check WFN. I just recieved a 358-190 mould from NEI. We shall see how that does on black bear this spring. My experience with the 180's lead me to believe I need to find a bigger bear to be able to recover one for inspection.

"The little toy gun"

Now that's funny. Kind of how I feel though some days untill I watch a critter fold up. A feller sure gets alot of bang for his buck with the big boys RedRyder!

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:02 pm

I didn't want to post that whole reply for the sake of space. He was referring to some other larger bigger bore rifles. Veral does some really amazing things with cast bullets.

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:36 pm

Rusty wrote:I didn't want to post that whole reply for the sake of space. He was referring to some other larger bigger bore rifles. Veral does some really amazing things with cast bullets.

Rusty,

Is Veral's info. on line?
Sure would be interested in reading the full report.

Thanks

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