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I really wish Ruger would have taken Keith’s advice and called this the Dragoon!
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I did pull the flier. But these are first five of my Skeeter loads.
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It's in gorgeous shape, Scott. 8)
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Bill in Oregon wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 11:31 am It's in gorgeous shape, Scott. 8)
I bought it cheap because it was out of time.

The pawl was too short.

A Power Custom pawl fixed it
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I'd thought that maybe the Interarms "Virginian Dragoon" was already out, but, no, it didn't appear until 1973.
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I had a good friend accidentally shoot him self with a Virginian Dragoon. The bullet went under his collar bone and punched a hole through his scapula. The gun fell out of his waistband as he crossed a fence. It could have easily killed him.

Keith recommended to Bill Ruger to call the Super Blackhawk a “Dragoon” and I still think that would have been fitting.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:47 pm I had a good friend accidentally shoot him self with a Virginian Dragoon. The bullet went under his collar bone and punched a hole through his scapula. The gun fell out of his waistband as he crossed a fence. It could have easily killed him.

Keith recommended to Bill Ruger to call the Super Blackhawk a “Dragoon” and I still think that would have been fitting.
That's why the two dots on the Virginian cylinder remind you to keep an empty chamber under the hammer.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:47 pm Keith recommended to Bill Ruger to call the Super Blackhawk a “Dragoon” and I still think that would have been fitting.
I agree 100%!

I've always thought of mine as a Dragoon. With the square-back trigger guard, it just shouts "Dragoon"! :D
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Especially when they are like this one with a brass grip frame.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:06 pm Especially when they are like this one with a brass grip frame.
Very true! :D

And as you can see from my signature picture, I am very found of the Dragoon's!
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Scott,
Is the brass frame original? At the time another company was making them aftermarket for Rugers but you can tell from the markings inside. If original, they are worth double what a regular one is. I had a brass framed 357 and an Old Army but they both went down the road.

Most brass framed Rugers were made in the very early seventies,
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This one has a factory brass frame. I have an aftermarket brass frame on another Ruger.

I don’t know anything about the value being increased as it certainly wasn’t in this case.
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Thanks Scott……you have a winner there………
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They could call it the xr3-gold i'd love to have one! :lol: It would be nice to have the now unavailable bisley calibers in a 7.5'' sbh with a 70s charm.
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Fitting the new pawl requires a great deal of trial and error.

That should be “file and error”

I have it set to just go into the full cock notch on each chamber. Then I coated the pawl with some black paint and I’ll cycle the action a few hundred times to see where I need to polish it for a final fit.

It’s not a bad project if you remember that the notches on the pawl serve different functions and you take your time.
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It’s done. Timing is just right. And I didn’t booger up any screws.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:20 pm It’s done. Timing is just right. And I didn’t booger up any screws.
Congrats Scott! :D
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Yea Scott…your gun is “right”, one of the last old models to leave the factory in ‘73……
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While I was fitting the pawl, I noticed that the rachet is not perfectly consistent. Two chambers would lock up before the sear dropped into the full cock notch while each of the other chambers would allow the sear to lock in as the sear dropped into the full cock notch.

Now they all lock up when they should and the action feels really good.
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That's fabulous Scott. Do you have a video showing how you do that?
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Grizz wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:14 pm That's fabulous Scott. Do you have a video showing how you do that?
No, I didn’t video it. And I’ve never seen a video of anyone else doing it. I’ve never talked about how to do it with anyone. But this is not a terribly complex machine and I had the old pawl to go by.

I used a flat needle file and took my time.
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Grizz wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:14 pm That's fabulous Scott. Do you have a video showing how you do that?
Here’s what I had to go on:
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:42 am
Grizz wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:14 pm That's fabulous Scott. Do you have a video showing how you do that?
Here’s what I had to go on:
Thank you so much. This will help learn about the
lock work... There's a lot going on in there . . . :)
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It isn’t a terribly complicated machine compared to a watch or a truck.
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By 1973 Ruger seems to have worked out all the kinks.

I tried six different loads this morning and it shot quite well with each. However there were two that stood out.

Skeeter’s .44 Special load averaged 924 fps

Skeeter’s .44 Magnum load (255 gr Keith over 21 gr 2400) averaged 1443 FPS.
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