Garage/Basement practice.....

[Ray]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iANA_qrAGt8


https://www.cowboyfastdraw.com/generals ... es/page/2/

[gamekeeper]

I thought the loose fitting primers would be a problem and can't see why they designed them that way. On some old Westerns you can see wax bullets splatter on barrels and water troughs that the hero or villain hide behind.

The Arizona Ghost Riders is one of my favourite channels...

[marlinman93]

I thought the loose fitting primers would be a problem and can't see why they designed them that way. On some old Westerns you can see wax bullets splatter on barrels and water troughs that the hero or villain hide behind.

The Arizona Ghost Riders is one of my favourite channels...

Loose fitting primers can indeed be a problem in revolvers where they can back out and lock up the cylinder.

[Rimfire McNutjob]

I'm not sure that is viable as designed. It would seem to me that maybe having to stick a pencil (toothpick, Allen wrench, etc.) down the case to pop out a spent 209 primer when building up a set of loads is not really burdensome.

[JimT]

Years ago Speer put out plastic cartridges with plastic "heel" bullets that were primer-powered for indoor practice. They were "bore-riding" diameter. My Dad bought us some of them. Eventually we began hot-rodding them with a little Bullseye under the plastic bullets but that eventually destroyed the bullets and we went back to standard cases with enlarged flash holes and paraffin wax.

I decided to see what the .44-40 Model 92 would do with 10 gr. of Bullseye and a wax bullet. I set a 1" thick oak board in the fireplace and fired into it from about 10 feet. The wax bullet punched a nice clean hole through the oak but left no marks at all on the fireplace brick behind it.

[Rimfire McNutjob]

... The wax bullet punched a nice clean hole through the oak but left no marks at all on the fireplace brick behind it.

Ouch. That's a bit more dangerous than one would have assumed.

[JimT]

... The wax bullet punched a nice clean hole through the oak but left no marks at all on the fireplace brick behind it.

Ouch. That's a bit more dangerous than one would have assumed.

yessir. Used with good results in the book UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. If you haven't read it, you probably should consider it. Written 20-some years ago, it is still worth the history it contains.

[weiler]

... The wax bullet punched a nice clean hole through the oak but left no marks at all on the fireplace brick behind it.

Ouch. That's a bit more dangerous than one would have assumed.

yessir. Used with good results in the book UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. If you haven't read it, you probably should consider it. Written 20-some years ago, it is still worth the history it contains.

Think Henry Bowman used nylon “bullets” or some synthetic material, havent read it in a few years, about due!

[JimT]

Think Henry Bowman used nylon “bullets” or some synthetic material, havent read it in a few years, about due!

You are right. They were the "plastic" that was called "nylon" back then.

[Ray]

Half inch diameter hot glue sticks are seldom as much as that..... 7/16" is more like it.....nigh-on .44 cal.

If you can ever dope-out the arkansan elevation, they make for excellent gato dissuaders. Cut in 3/8" length (wadcutters) shoehorned into a case over a pinch or bullseye or reddot.

[marlinman93]

I also used some of those Speer plastic bullets to try, but not with very good accuracy. I then found a company selling bullets that were blue and cast from dental wax mix, and they were only slightly better as the wax began to fill up the grooves in the rifling, and accuracy soon went away until cleaned.
I gave up on shooting in the basement or backyard with my CF guns, and just switched to pellet guns.

[Ray]

I ordered a sample pack from the above linked quick draw folk. They worked flawlessly from a bond derringer, a ruger sixgun and a pietta fivegun and all hit the cardboard box at about 15 feet.

There is no problem with the shotshell primer being loose in the case. The problem is the inherent design of shotshell primers. They are actually conventional primers inside an outer cup. Before the component drought, fiocchi and others made primers for reloading these cups at a savings of two or three cents per for your effort. The flash hole in this outer cup is miniscule so the inner primer protrudes on firing since it does not have the backwards inertia of recoil to reseat itself. Hence need mentioned above to drill out flash holes of cases for wax bullet use.