Shooting The Old H&R This Morning

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Shooting The Old H&R This Morning

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I got to messing around with the old H&R this morning, wanting to shoot it. I had noticed weeks ago that the 9mm case is just a tad shorter than the .38 S&W case. I pushed a .375" diameter round ball on the end of a 9mm case and dropped it in the chamber. Lo and behold it was the exact length that would be needed. So today I decided to shoot some of them.

I loaded one with 1.5 gr. Bullseye and fired it into a wadded up old flannel shirt. It was quite wimpy and did not even penetrate the cloth. So back to the shop and I loaded one with 2.0 gr. Bullseye. Fired into the shirt it still did not penetrate 1 layer of cloth. A fun load for shooting rats but I am not sure it would hurt them severely. Back to the loading bench and this time 2.6 gr. Bullseye. The report was more like a gun and the wadded up shirt was knocked off the table I had it on. Checking I found it penetrated 1 layer of cloth and dented the next layer. THIS would be a rat load!

None of the cartridges swelled out to the chamber at all. All 3 were smoked pretty well. I don't trust this old gun too much and don't plan on going any heavier right now. I may work up to 3 gr. in a couple steps, but I am not real sure I want to. It's more for fun than anything else.

Here's some photos of the steps during testing this morning.

9mm case with .375" round ball .. a little grease on the ball
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In the chamber, loaded with 2.0 gr. Bullseye. Note that it protrudes enough from the chamber to headspace close to normal.
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Fired into a wadded up flannel shirt, it did not penetrate 1 layer of cloth!
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The fired cartridge was driven into the chamber by the firing pin after firing. You have to use a small rod to eject the empties
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Bullet hole! 2.6 gr. Bullseye penetrated one layer of cloth.
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Fired balls ...they measure .359"

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Where there is a will, there's a way. Nice job of MacGyvering up some loads, Jim. 8)
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Thanks Jim. pretty fun from here! :D .
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We need a like button :D 8)
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Nath wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:38 pm We need a like button :D 8)
Agreed!

Jim, was there any lead spray at the forcing cone? .375" starting diameter certainly is significantly larger than the .359" recovered rounds. Granted, they weren't trucking along, and the soft lead helps, but I was curious.
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Ysabel Kid wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:45 pm Jim, was there any lead spray at the forcing cone? .375" starting diameter certainly is significantly larger than the .359" recovered rounds. Granted, they weren't trucking along, and the soft lead helps, but I was curious.
No. The balls are sized down in the cylinder throats before they hit the forcing cone.
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Glad to see it up and running. I could use something similar. Got someone pilfering eggs.
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