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32-40 cartridge

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Is the 32-40 win/Ballard considered a straight walled cartridge? If is it ok for deer hunting in states tha allow SW cartridges ?
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I've heard it described most often as a "taper" case. The .38-55 or .375 Win are straight wall cases. The .32-40 has a most definite visual taper to the case. Tapering from .412 just ahead of the extractor groove down to .340 just behind the crimp. As for it's legality in those states requiring a "straight wall" case, you'd have to check with their game enforcement, whatever State agency controls that.
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a quick search of articles on the web indicate it is a "rimmed, straight" cartridge. As always check with your local co's.
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It's a straight walled case.....all straight walled cases have to have some kind of taper so it will "break free" of the chamber after firing so it's only a little "ummppphhh" to break it free. That's one of the first laws of engineering and is especially needed in guns with weaker style extraction systems such as levers, pumps, or semi autos.

It's an easy arguement with a not-so-bright officer trying to give you a citation......just grab a pencil, paper and a cartridge case, then draw a straight line. Nowhere in the regulation book does it say "straight walled taper". The law doesn't say "straight walled sides that are parallel to each other"....Use "their" words in your favor......"straight walled" which it is.-----006
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Sixgun I see you are from SE Pa.I am up here in Northeastern Lancaster Co. about 20 mins from the Middle creek wildlife area.Right now the snow geese are passing thru.Quite a sight. As for the 32-40 I had a Win 1894 with a full oct barrell and curved buttstock with a metal butt plate. That gun was very accuirate.It was bought at a hardware store in Ephrata,Pa before WW2. Only thing was I had to pass it to my brother as that was our uncle's wish.In the late 50's early 60's I hunted with that gun where my uncle lived in what is now Yellow Springs or as we called it then Chester Springs. My e-mail tony63@ptd.net Drop a line.
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I just measured rounds I loaded for both 32-40 and 38-55. The 38-55 measured .415 right above the rim, and .393 at the case mouth. The 32-40 also measured .415 above the rim and .342 at the case mouth. So either they are both straight walled, or neither are. Unless the states specify the amount or angle of taper permissible.

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Note that my 32-40 has a nickel steel barrel so my load may not be safe in old BP barrels.
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308magtip wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:06 pm Sixgun I see you are from SE Pa.I am up here in Northeastern Lancaster Co. about 20 mins from the Middle creek wildlife area.Right now the snow geese are passing thru.Quite a sight. As for the 32-40 I had a Win 1894 with a full oct barrell and curved buttstock with a metal butt plate. That gun was very accuirate.It was bought at a hardware store in Ephrata,Pa before WW2. Only thing was I had to pass it to my brother as that was our uncle's wish.In the late 50's early 60's I hunted with that gun where my uncle lived in what is now Yellow Springs or as we called it then Chester Springs. My e-mail tony63@ptd.net Drop a line.
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Heck, we probably passed each other at gun shows or auctions...like 2 ships in the dark, cruising along with a Winchester (pre war) hanging on the end of our arms.... :D I know Chester Springs...maybe 20 miles north of me, near Phoenixville. I'm 5 miles south of West Chester and 5 miles west of Media or 8 miles north of Wilmington, de. If any of that makes sense. :D

I get up your way somewhat often spending time in New Holland and Ephrata, Bird in Hand, Intercourse......yea, it's hard to believe the names the Amish come up with. Lots of good auction houses and gun shows up your way....in 30 years I never missed a Forks of the Delaware show in Allentown, nor an auction at Horst.---006
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^^^ Don't forget Mount Joy and Blue Ball! In that order! Supposedly undersexed Amish women are prescribed two Mennonite by doctors. LOL
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kaschi wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:56 pm ^^^ Don't forget Mount Joy and Blue Ball! In that order! Supposedly undersexed Amish women are prescribed two Mennonite by doctors. LOL
Oh yea....Blue Ball.....that's much closer to me, maybe 15 miles....

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308magtip wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:25 pm Is the 32-40 win/Ballard considered a straight walled cartridge? If is it ok for deer hunting in states tha allow SW cartridges ?
All states that have a so called straight wall rule accept any if these tapered straight wall cases. If there's any shoulder on a case, no matter how slight it may be most will not allow it.
The .32-40 and .38-55 both started life as Marlin Ballard cartridges, yet today they often get the Winchester name tagged to them. Even Winchester made ammo back in the early days identified the ammo as ".32-40 Marlin Ballard rifles" and later added their name also.
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You may be OK from a technical standpoint in your "straightwall" state but I'd think you should feel some shame about thinking of using such a big powerful cartridge against the likes of the hapless whitetails thereabouts.
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Relating to the post of 1/19/23. I have seen my share of deer in Pa shot but never retrived with calibers such as 222 Rem,all the way to a 458 win mag. Straight wall cartridges are no more than a replacement for 12,20 gauge shotguns with the new modern slugs.No different than a 50 cal muzzle loading rifle. Bullet placement within the range of the firearm and the SHOOTER are the most important next to SAFTEY in hunting.
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Hey SIXGUN Next Sat 1/28 Horst has an all gun sale. Might get over as I am only 15 mins from there. Tony Magtip
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