doesnt have a lever but .....
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- Advanced Levergunner
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doesnt have a lever but .....
umarex 50 cal PCP air gun [ pre charged pneumatic ] has lever gun type ballistics:
Umarex Hammer™ Energy Generation
Grain Material FPS Energy (ft-lbf)
180 Umarex® ARX® 1100 484
200 Lead 1055 495
250 Lead 1000 555
275 Lead 945 545
300 Lead 930 576
330 Lead (Lyman) 935 641
350 Lead (Lyman) 875 595
550 Lead 760 705
maybe a lever could be added ?
Umarex Hammer™ Energy Generation
Grain Material FPS Energy (ft-lbf)
180 Umarex® ARX® 1100 484
200 Lead 1055 495
250 Lead 1000 555
275 Lead 945 545
300 Lead 930 576
330 Lead (Lyman) 935 641
350 Lead (Lyman) 875 595
550 Lead 760 705
maybe a lever could be added ?
cable
Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
that 550 load is about like my 45/70/525 round at a couple hundred yards. that's amazing. i wonder how they get that much energy behind those bullets?
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- Advanced Levergunner
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Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
I'm sure you could get one of those lever-actuated bicycle pumps and use it to fill the cylinder of that air-rifle.......might take a couple weeks though...!
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Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
bet you are right
Lewis and Clarks men spent many happy hours around the camp fire pumping up their air rifle , i suppose
Lewis and Clarks men spent many happy hours around the camp fire pumping up their air rifle , i suppose
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Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
Sounds fun.
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Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
I've looked at getting one of these big bores. Think I would get a .30 or .357 just for the more shots per air charge.
Yes there are bicycle type pumps and yes it takes a while.
The biggest reason I haven't pulled the trigger on one is the cost of the special compressors- as much as the cost of the gun! The bike pump just isn't appealing for high volume shooting!
Yes there are bicycle type pumps and yes it takes a while.
The biggest reason I haven't pulled the trigger on one is the cost of the special compressors- as much as the cost of the gun! The bike pump just isn't appealing for high volume shooting!
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Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
Yeah I think I'd build a 'bicycle' pump that ran off of an exercise bike to do the pumping...! Then I could get a workout.
The idea of a 45 ACP level carbine that only needed bullets but no powder or primer is kind of cool.
The idea of a 45 ACP level carbine that only needed bullets but no powder or primer is kind of cool.
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Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
I had a Benjamin Maurader in .25 and the English-made Hill hand pump. It was a real workout and quickly lost its appeal, although the rifle itself was wonderfully accurate, powerful and quiet. Umarex has come out with a compressor under $600, which begins to make a PCP gun slightly more affordable.
https://www.amazon.com/Umarex-ReadyAIR- ... B08PPMSLZR
The Hammer itself gets mixed reviews:
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/umar ... 36#Reviews
https://www.amazon.com/Umarex-ReadyAIR- ... B08PPMSLZR
The Hammer itself gets mixed reviews:
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/umar ... 36#Reviews
Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
it does bring up an interesting discussion of how much "bullet" do we actually need? I'm first to admit that i don't foresee giving up my primary 45/70 -- 50Beo rifle/pistol for woods walking / meat hunting, ocean travel.
that said, game is taken with air guns at "crazy" TKO numbers, in comparison. I think we've been all over this in the past, something like, if a .17 pellet can kill a deer, why use anything else?
my out is to carry something that resembles a freight train, relatively.
but for an air gun, what is your ideal, only one, all round, do everything you need a projectile for, caliber and bullet choice?
that said, game is taken with air guns at "crazy" TKO numbers, in comparison. I think we've been all over this in the past, something like, if a .17 pellet can kill a deer, why use anything else?
my out is to carry something that resembles a freight train, relatively.
but for an air gun, what is your ideal, only one, all round, do everything you need a projectile for, caliber and bullet choice?
Re: doesnt have a lever but .....
All the air rifle dealers like Pyramid have been out of powerful air rifles, except for the expensive PCPs for some time.....
I would like to get a Hatsan break barrel .30 cal if/when they are once again available.
If you can't get to within fifteen yards or so (average archery shot) and hit a two inch area on a deer's head, don't try it.
These are useful in the same way a silenced 22 short is useful.
I would like to get a Hatsan break barrel .30 cal if/when they are once again available.
If you can't get to within fifteen yards or so (average archery shot) and hit a two inch area on a deer's head, don't try it.
These are useful in the same way a silenced 22 short is useful.
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