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I think a 25 would be quite the little number. That new 22 from Winchester/Savage looked to be a hot ticket , I was intrested in it but the accuracy just wasnt there, over inch groups at 50 just didnt appeal to me. Could be it's over bore and could benefit from larger dia bullet.
Bar Humbug.
Some of us don't want to reload any more.
You guys may be able to reload at reasonable prices but over here it's gotten silly and getting worse and there is an ever narrowing of choices.
N.
I have one of those .17 Win Super Magnum rifles. 3/8th inch groups at 100 yards when playing around, and under 1/8th inch when trying. NOPE, not accurate at all. Kicks like a mule and so loud that the host from lifestyles of the rich and famous asks "WHAT WAS THAT"?
Seriously, it would probably do well if necked to .25 as it starts life as a .27 sized power unit for sending nails into concrete. My best group was 50 rounds all touching at 100 yards. It was slightly larger than a pencil eraser.
D. Brian Casady
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piller wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:17 pm
I have one of those .17 Win Super Magnum rifles. 3/8th inch groups at 100 yards when playing around, and under 1/8th inch when trying. NOPE, not accurate at all. Kicks like a mule and so loud that the host from lifestyles of the rich and famous asks "WHAT WAS THAT"?
Seriously, it would probably do well if necked to .25 as it starts life as a .27 sized power unit for sending nails into concrete. My best group was 50 rounds all touching at 100 yards. It was slightly larger than a pencil eraser.
That's even better, a .27 case. Come on Winchester....
Can't get any more British meets New Frontier, but here's my AUS Cadet with a set of Parker Hale sights and a new Shaw barrel chambered in .25 WCF! I have about 3000+ .258 LRNGC bullets that my Grandfather made up ( along with his molds), so it was an easy choice for the new chambering. When I do my part, it makes one ragged hole at 100 yds.
Nath, Sorry for the lack of options over there. A little Revolution now and then is a healthy thing!
Someone will come along and tell me I'm wrong anyway, but If was only allowed to have a few long guns, this would be one of them. Easy to load, shoot and repeat. Kills way outside of what the "Professionals" say it should.
jb
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jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
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2ndovc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:18 pm
Can't get any more British meets New Frontier, but here's my AUS Cadet with a set of Parker Gale sights and a new Shaw barrel chambered in .25 WCF! I have about 3000+ .258 LRNGC bullets that my Grandfather made up ( along with his molds), so it was an easy choice for the new chambering. When I do my part, it makes one ragged hole at 100 yds.
Nath, Sorry for the lack of options over there. A little Revolution now and then is a healthy thing!
Someone will come along and tell me I'm wrong anyway, but If was only allowed to have a few long guns, this would be one of them. Easy to load, shoot and repeat. Kills way outside of what the "Professionals" say it should.
Cal me crazy but I'm really intrigued by the .327 Federal. On paper it looks equal to a .32-20 but with a straight wall easy to reload case. It will shoot all manner of .32 cartridges. I just wish there were more long gun options for it.
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Rusty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:32 pm
Cal me crazy but I'm really intrigued by the .327 Federal. On paper it looks equal to a .32-20 but with a straight wall easy to reload case. It will shoot all manner of .32 cartridges. I just wish there were more long gun options for it.
Love my .327 Federal! Super easy to load and a wicked accurate revolver! It would make a great Zombie apocalypse pistol. You can shoot .32 Short, Long H&R Magnum, .327 Federal and even .32 ACP! Just about any .32s you can find. Henry makes a rifle and carbine but they're hard to find in my part of the woods. Would like to pick one up eventually.
jb
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jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
There are dozens of good CF cartridges, but some of us own rifles already chambered for the old .25 Stevens Long RF, and would love a steady source of ammo for them! Sure I wouldn't seek out a .25 RF, but when you've already got one with a beautiful bore, I'd sure love to shoot it more!
I've got 6 or 7 boxes of original Cannuck ammo for the .25 Stevens RF, but I shoot it sparingly because it's irreplaceable. If I could find the ammo again I'd be shooting the heck out of my little Ballard #3 in this caliber!
marlinman93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:20 pm
There are dozens of good CF cartridges, but some of us own rifles already chambered for the old .25 Stevens Long RF, and would love a steady source of ammo for them! Sure I wouldn't seek out a .25 RF, but when you've already got one with a beautiful bore, I'd sure love to shoot it more!
I've got 6 or 7 boxes of original Cannuck ammo for the .25 Stevens RF, but I shoot it sparingly because it's irreplaceable. If I could find the ammo again I'd be shooting the heck out of my little Ballard #3 in this caliber!
2ndovc wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:18 pm
With full bore loads, it's just about the loudest *** I've ever had. Right up there w/ my Contender with the .30 Carbine barrel on it.
jb
And there is another little nearly forgotten gem, 30 carbine!
marlinman93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:20 pm
There are dozens of good CF cartridges, but some of us own rifles already chambered for the old .25 Stevens Long RF, and would love a steady source of ammo for them! Sure I wouldn't seek out a .25 RF, but when you've already got one with a beautiful bore, I'd sure love to shoot it more!
I've got 6 or 7 boxes of original Cannuck ammo for the .25 Stevens RF, but I shoot it sparingly because it's irreplaceable. If I could find the ammo again I'd be shooting the heck out of my little Ballard #3 in this caliber!
And how well does it shoot pard?
It's shoots amazing with the Cannuck ammo. I get under 1" groups at 50 yds. and I almost wish it wasn't so pristine, as I'd reline it to .22LR. But it's marked under the forearm wood as being "re-rifled by J Stevens Arms Co.". It left Marlin as a .22 Long, and I guess someone wanted the new fangled .25 Stevens when it came out later. So they had Stevens rebore it and chamber for the .25 Stevens. I love it, but wish the ammo was more available, or that they'd never have rebored it. I believe the full length Stevens scope was likely purchased and added when the gun was rebored at Stevens.
Bummer when something shoots so well, but ammo is limited.
Anyone interested in .25 Stevens RF might consider going to Winchester and Hornady's websites and use the "contact" format to send them a message stating your desire for them to make this ammo. I've done so, but it will take others to ask a lot before they'll likely respond.
marlinman93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:31 pm
Thanks Bill!
Anyone interested in .25 Stevens RF might consider going to Winchester and Hornady's websites and use the "contact" format to send them a message stating your desire for them to make this ammo. I've done so, but it will take others to ask a lot before they'll likely respond.
Thanks marlinman.
That's a good idea about contacting ammo manufacturers.
wm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:22 pm
What ballistics would you expect from a new 25 Rimfire? I'm just curious, I had not really thought about it before you brought it up.
Wm
I would think, if possible, 60grn doing 1600 would be very handy!
Bet there is some software somewhere that could give a prediction.
PillHer's Henry in .327 federal hits what she can see. I can reload it and she has a lot of fun with it. Her SP101 in the same caliber is ideal for her.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
wm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:22 pm
What ballistics would you expect from a new 25 Rimfire? I'm just curious, I had not really thought about it before you brought it up.
Wm
The original Stevens .25 Long had a 67 gr. bullet that left the muzzle at 1400 fps. No slouch, and the heavier bullet could bring down small game easier than even hot .22LR.
I looked at doing the nail gun charges also. The .25 caliber are supposedly too large, and you need to use the .22 charges to fit in a .25 RF. Supposed to also use the lightest charge possible, as anything heavier can dame some old guns that are weak.
I would build a breech seating tool myself, and then breech seat a .257" bullet in the bore, and a shot case behind it. I breech seat for several old single shot rifles, and have a tool designed to work on my other Ballard rifles. I'd just need to make the seating rod and case to make it work for the little .25RF.
Here's my friend's son shooting one of my Ballard rifles with my breech seater tool.
I happen to stumble across this on GunBroker. Just thought I would pass it along. Not mine, no connection to me but the price seems at least reasonable .
2ndovc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:18 pm
Can't get any more British meets New Frontier, but here's my AUS Cadet with a set of Parker Hale sights and a new Shaw barrel chambered in .25 WCF! I have about 3000+ .258 LRNGC bullets that my Grandfather made up ( along with his molds), so it was an easy choice for the new chambering. When I do my part, it makes one ragged hole at 100 yds.
Nath, Sorry for the lack of options over there. A little Revolution now and then is a healthy thing!
Someone will come along and tell me I'm wrong anyway, but If was only allowed to have a few long guns, this would be one of them. Easy to load, shoot and repeat. Kills way outside of what the "Professionals" say it should.