AR field notes

[Grizz]

We took the cheapo-parts home-assembled 5.56 carbine out to dial in the cheapo Bushnell AR/223 1-4X scope on the cheapo Armourtac extension mount.

I hung a gong at around 20 yds and walked another up the hill, we 'think' something over 50yds. I strapped that one to a stump so we didn't have to re-align it. shooting 223 I dialed in some elevation and a little windage, then turned to the farther gong. shooting offhand I was hitting it, I thought, although it didn't ring, it just went plunk, plunk, plunk, sounding like it was hitting pallet below.

I turned a chair back into a field expedient bench rest, without the bench part, did the breath and pulse thing as if I was actually target shooting, and plunk, plunk, plunk, plunk. Arrrrrgh. "I'm walking up there to see what is going on". There are 4 or 5 nato divots near the center of the plate. For reference the flat one at one O'clock is from a 525gr PileDriver, which knocks 'em silly when they are free to swing. I guess the parts gun can shoot, even if it was assembled by a shade tree wrench bender.

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The other guy got busy with my Ruger 22 Automatic Pistol and a bottle of heinze57 ammo. He tinked the close gong two handed for a while and out of boredom switched to one hand. When he got bored with that he two-handed the farther gong and got a satisfying tink, tink, tink. He switched back to one hand and got the same tinking, so he drew a bead on the can of pop. It exploded in a shower of sticky whatever was in it, jumped off the stump and fell dead to the ground. One shot. One kill. Keep him in the hide or send him on point, eh?

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I like the carbine a lot. I like the slick side. I like the front grip. I like the gas-forward-director-doohickey. And I like the touching family portrait in the center of the gong.



Grizz out

[Malamute]

When shooting the old 300 yard plate (some sort of very large, 18" differential cover) and the new non armor grade steel plate, 556/223 makes a loud WHOP sound. Pistol rounds make it ring. The 600 yard plate makes a ring sound with rifles and pistols.


...and congrats on the gun running well and shooting good!

[Grizz]

thanks. it's my rifle now.

[firefuzz]

Nice rifle. Now if you can just get some ammo for it.

Rob

[sore shoulder]

Looks like it's working good Grizz. Time to do some mag dump/changes and wring it out. Is that the scope/mount combo someone posted in another thread? I was interested in that for a interim setup.

[Grizz]

Looks like it's working good Grizz. Time to do some mag dump/changes and wring it out. Is that the scope/mount combo someone posted in another thread? I was interested in that for a interim setup.

I think it's the same scope. It was recommended here. Took a long time to find a serviceable cheap scope mount. I figure I saved about 200$ by eschewing the brand names.

http://www.amazon.com/CCOP-MNT-1516-Pro ... ccop+mount

the only thing wrong with the mount that I can detect is that it is inexpensive. have not tried to remove the scope and fasten it back on the gun, so it isn't proven that for a cash saving of approx 200$ the mount will return to zero.

yeah, I know, there are some 80$ versions with brand names. I looked at them and pocketed the difference.

Grizz

[sore shoulder]

There was a scope/mount combo posted in your thread awhile back that had the scope and mount together in one "affordable" (cheap ) package, but I can't recall who made it. The poster said it was working well, wish I had bookmarked it. *facepalm*

[Griff]

There was a scope/mount combo posted in your thread awhile back that had the scope and mount together in one "affordable" (cheap ) package, but I can't recall who made it. The poster said it was working well, wish I had bookmarked it. *facepalm*

Link in photo... $79.99 @ Academy Sports.

[Grizz]

P.S.

I saved another $200 on these aluminum off-brand sights:

http://www.amazon.com/TACTICAL-EXCLUSIV ... ition+BUIS

the front looks like a regular AR post, and the rear has a flipper for two sizes and full two direction adjustments.

I figured I saved so much money buying off-brand cheapo accessories that I can now buy another cheapo rifle kit.

Grizz

[Griff]

P.S.

I saved another $200 on these aluminum off-brand sights:

http://www.amazon.com/TACTICAL-EXCLUSIV ... ition+BUIS

the front looks like a regular AR post, and the rear has a flipper for two sizes and full two direction adjustments.

I figured I saved so much money buying off-brand cheapo accessories that I can now buy another cheapo rifle kit.

Grizz

I haven't been shopping or a set... but dern it!!! NOW you've done it!

[Blaine]

That gong looks familiar.....Might I have put a couple of dents in that one?

[Grizz]

That gong looks familiar.....Might I have put a couple of dents in that one?

You Betcha.

remember when the .357 made a loud noise and you couldn't see the spot inless the paint was fresh?

it's not to the point of your Target Skillet yet q.v.

Grizz

[sore shoulder]

That was the one Grizz, for some reason I think that was Griffs rifle?

Those offset sights are becoming popular after the 3-gun crowd started using them. Someone even made a rifle with them integrated into the upper and foream, can't remember who, LMT or Stag (same thing actually )?

[Griff]

That was the one Grizz, for some reason I think that was Griffs rifle?
Those offset sights are becoming popular after the 3-gun crowd started using them. Someone even made a rifle with them integrated into the upper and foream, can't remember who, LMT or Stag (same thing actually )?

I haven't had the mount off the rifle yet, so I can't say if it holds its zero yet or not. But... I don't intend to take it off, but a pair of those angled irons could find their way onto it! Yea, it's my 3-gun rifle.

[Grizz]

I haven't shot with the angle sights. Think they are foolish, but I saved 200$, so what's not to like?

The one diss on my rifle is the gas block is not at the height of the receiver top, so special parts required.

I'm looking at using an M4 sight block and clamping it onto the front end of the barrel, like all the other rifle front sights I have. Only I don't know if that would dis-harmonize the thing and start it into a lead dispersion mode.

Any thoughts about getting a sight on the front end of the M4 barrel? I could bore a hole into the gas redirector and stick an M4 sight post in it. A little 100mph tape to even things out and . . .

Grizz

[sore shoulder]

It just occurred to me, if a person lapped the scope mount to the specific rails in the mounting location, wouldn't that guarantee a more consistent lockdown?

[sore shoulder]

Yea Grizz that same plane vs gas block height is a pain.

[MrMurphy]

Sore......

No. Speaking as someone who used to sell a ton of exact return to zero mounts and watched every step of their manufacture.....and having had the question asked me before.


If the M1913 rail is correct-to-spec (and quite a few cheaper ones aren't), a quality mount needs absolutely nothing more than to be mounted. It's designed that way. No hand fitting, lapping, turning in a circle five times throwing holy water on the gun while screaming prayers to the accuracy gods, etc or anything else bolt-action accuracy fanatics think is "necessary".