They just left---------------
My roofer(nice guy)brought the Union Metal Rep/Distributer/Architect/and he drew up a drawing and will give me(the price)the roofer wanted second opinion with this guy(guy seemed really sharp???
They said(they will not be putting foam insert in each end of panel(which prevents bugs/birds/rain but also prevents venting?--they will be using some type of mesh/screening system to enhance ventilation/also they are doing something on the cap which will aid in this.
For this roof he recommends not Repel but Heavy Gauge (Stick Em ???)underlayment????
Also on my flat addition(which has a one piece Lifetime Rubber roof(10years old)I am having them match roof line(2"x8" 16"OC)with the rest of roof so complete roof will be (Pitched)this is about a 15X35 ft area.
First thing when they got out of truck------------shook Reps hand and said-------------Hi, I am Larry,don't want to waste anyones time but I want 24 GAUGE PBR (he laughed and said----I like this guy already----He ain't cheap
Watched every move they made on roof and glad I did------roofer was talking over the flat rubber roof----(this is where we are going to stop here with the metal-----I was standing on moss bank-----said,nope that area is getting rafters/matching pitch of other roof so whole roof will be one nice one slope(pretty steep)metal roof.
Rep said----------------Not a bad idea my friend. I told them to leave the rubber roof as is under but still over that install synthetic barrier. Found out they are both---------------BIG TIME HUNTERS/SHOOTERS told about this place(Leverguns)and also Joe(86er)
They are going to go on here-----and have a peek??????????
So----will price change-----well the roofer did already give me 4 prices already prior (last week etc.)and one included even that repitched/area over rubber roof
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so with the exception of 24ga PBR upgrade/the capping/and edge screening/and couple tubes of special Silicone to fix that patio drip(when snow is on/melts)Rep said he has stuff better than (my always choice)Silicone #1(that stuff that has the vinegar smell(forget what his is)----will have update price by the am.
he said not many people get the 24ga PBR(so that will be special order right from factory)should be able to have it within a week???
Don't mind paying little more for doing things right-----but also I ain't no fool. I verified every step they took on current roof so nothing was damaged and then I am in (a desperate situation)
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wife says on phone(You are paranoid)
ps----the chimney and the vent pipe---told em want the Union best stuff there too.
Last week the top of chimney cap(the concrete piece was getting bad)had some stones coming down on rubber roof------he said wow you did that cap??? (Now it is HD re-concreted/painted black/stainless cap(I made)and the whole thing is wrapped in HD fence wire.
so nothing getting in!
Told them I had some stainless sheeting(cut it,made a cap)had the HD galvanized fence(wire)and bought a 80lb bag of mortar Mix at Lowes for $3.95
Am I getting too anal(oooooops,can I say that word here/s/b able too in that reference!
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If not Mods remove it and (my bad)
2nd ps----------------Rep said---I bet you made that cap for sewer pipe too
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------sure did last week.
Wife says those caps are annoying (when coming up driveway first thing catching your eye is these sun bright shiny black/silver things.
Said-----at about 6pm last night they were reflecting off the trees??????????
Told the guys------if they do good work-------coffee/doughnuts at their wish and ice cold IPA beer afterwards each day!
Also they are bringing their guns and we be heading out back to the range!(before beer)
Thanks guys for all info!
I asked about the screws backing out(cold/ice/snow/wind etc.)they said with the nails(used to)here this region with the high quality screws/bushings---------------not an issue????
Could I be making a mistake(maybe big mistake???) But from what I have been seeing in the last couple years----shingles ain't gonna last. How do I know this------well this place was first built in 1976(back of house has original, then rated 25 year shingles(getting to needing replacing 37 years old--- but roofer says they are better than his 30 year rated shingles he put on 13 years ago.
The other section of the front of house(2nd addition)has 19 year old 30 year Owens Corning Architecturals (they are about beat)and actually that side is protected even more than backside.
So----knowing how they have degraded from 25year rated shingles in 1976 to now verses the 30 year rated shingles in 1994 to now I can not imagine what they are now???? Roofer said-----just pick up a bundle and feel for yourself--------------not even a fraction of what they once were.???? Nothing compares to the high quality high amount of oil they then used in an important part of the makeup of the shingle.