Chaparral 76 range report and new outfit

Shasta · Post by **Shasta** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:56 pm

Pitchy,

Here is a link to an original cleaning rod on ebay. These go for big bucks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WINCHESTER-4-PI ... 35bb7174fb

SHASTA

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:03 pm

Yepper just found those too, i`m going to the shop and see if i can make a set.
Thanks.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:45 pm

Wouldn`t use a steel ram rod in a rifle unless it was a emergency, we figured if a person slipped and stuck the barrel in the mud or snow it might come in handy to clear it. They are a tight fit and rattle so not real impressed.

walks with gun · Post by **walks with gun** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:04 am

Well thank you much Pitchy, maybe I'll take you up on that offer. How about I shoot it from Mat to December and you can shoot it the rest of the year.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:11 am

Pitchy, great thread, nice rig and love the jacket.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:13 am

walks with gun wrote:Well thank you much Pitchy, maybe I'll take you up on that offer. How about I shoot it from Mat to December and you can shoot it the rest of the year.

I`ll put it on my horse and send it down.

Thanks rjohns94

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:17 pm

I emptied my rifle, they were coming fast and my pistol hung up on the thong, dern near got scalped.

Was shootin at a steel gong at 75 yards.

Video, click on picture.

Borregos · Post by **Borregos** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:48 pm

Enjoyed that

.45colt · Post by **.45colt** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:55 pm

.45Colt wrote:"Good all around Pitchy. must be the right choice in Your neck of the woods as them hostiles that shoot all them arrows at You have run for cover."
there I go again wrong once more....at least they are along ways away lookin at the angle of them arrows. You are well armed.

.

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:39 pm

I enjoyed that shoot-out, Pitchy! Them hostiles are on the run for sure now. I like that little pistol spin at the end as well. Nice touch.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:44 pm

I do believe that I heard a couple of "dings" in amongst those shots!

+1 on the spin reholstering! But... you gotta practice that unholstering bit!

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:51 pm

Can`t believe that happened, if it would of been a gun fight i`d be a dead man.

First time in my life that has ever happened, i had the thong off, it caught on the draw.

Also i better lay off with the videos, i think a lot of people think i`m showing off to much.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:03 pm

One more, had to correct that draw blunder

Hope ya enjoyed the videos

ollogger · Post by **ollogger** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:21 pm

Heck Pitchy that was cool, if me & Boots could figure out a vid. we would make one, as for now im still mastering the key board

ollogger

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:29 pm

ollogger wrote:Heck Pitchy that was cool, if me & Boots could figure out a vid. we would make one, as for now im still mastering the key board

ollogger

Thanks, i asked how sweety boots was doing in another thread but ya must of missed it, say hi from us.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:42 pm

Too all you youngsters out there, never twirl a loaded gun.
I only had it loaded with as many as i was going to shoot and spun it empty, safety first .

ollogger · Post by **ollogger** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:53 pm

Hey Pitchy,
Love the video... just got home from a wicked day at work.
Many to please tomorrow with so many flying in from ND to our coal plant. I get to serve around 40 people tomorrow.
I am in my glory with food... So not complaining but man this Sangria hits the spot.
Love the jacket but the hat is my favorite!
I love the twirl.. gotta work on mine. Maybe be shootin side by side someday!
Thanks for sharing. Always enjoy your stuff.
Later
Ms Boots

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:00 pm

ollogger wrote:Hey Pitchy,
Love the video... just got home from a wicked day at work.
Many to please tomorrow with so many flying in from ND to our coal plant. I get to serve around 40 people tomorrow.
I am in my glory with food... So not complaining but man this Sangria hits the spot.
Love the jacket but the hat is my favorite!
I love the twirl.. gotta work on mine. Maybe be shootin side by side someday!
Thanks for sharing. Always enjoy your stuff.
Later
Ms Boots

Would be great to get out your way and see you guys, thanks for the compliments

Don`t know what Sangria is?

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:29 pm

Love the vids. A guys gotta be careful with those hammer thongs. Thanks.

Oh, Sangria is a hard drink. Best I remember it's a wine.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:53 am

kimwcook wrote:Love the vids. A guys gotta be careful with those hammer thongs. Thanks.

Oh, Sangria is a hard drink. Best I remember it's a wine.

Thanks buddy.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:30 am

KirkD wrote:I enjoyed that shoot-out, Pitchy! Them hostiles are on the run for sure now. I like that little pistol spin at the end as well. Nice touch.

Thanks buddy, i should of made a new video but guess ya gotta show the blunders too.
I love the Vaquero, it`s a natural shootin gun for me.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:53 am

The Chief and i are having talks, so maybe the raids will stop.

Borregos · Post by **Borregos** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:37 pm

Get the peace pipe out Pitchy

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:06 pm

Pitchy, keep those videos coming! You are inspiring me to make some too! (but don't anyone hold their breath)

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:45 pm

KirkD wrote:Pitchy, keep those videos coming! You are inspiring me to make some too! (but don't anyone hold their breath)

I was just thinking about making one with the camera right above the action while shooting, might be cool and so would a video by you.

KCSO · Post by **KCSO** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:04 am

Slug your bore and i bet it is a tad oversize, that has been the big complaint with these. Try a 460 cast bullet of 250 to 300 grains.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:35 am

KCSO wrote:Slug your bore and i bet it is a tad oversize, that has been the big complaint with these. Try a 460 cast bullet of 250 to 300 grains.

If so then i`ll have to get a bigger sizer luber die, i`ll tinker with powders a little first.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:05 pm

Excellent Pitchy

Them's injuns sure got it in fer' ya'!

Looks like it's warming up for you there too!

Is it me or does the rifle need some more "go" ?

N.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:38 pm

Is it me or does the rifle need some more "go" ?

Huh, lost me on that one?

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:02 pm

Sorry friend, I meant a bit more power/powder.

I was kinder expecting a bit more recoil in the video, it just made me wonder if it needs a bit more powder what with you mentioning your not to happy with the groups.

Forgive my ignorance Pitchy, I never shot a 76 or that cartridge! Just thinking out loud thats all

Nath.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:33 pm

No problem bro, i just understand what ya meant, naw these 76`s are pretty mild and the rifle weighs 10 pounds .
That load is around 1400 FPS.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:06 pm

The 76 action, in action.
Ka Chink, Ka Chink

video

Post by **Hobie** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:37 pm

There's a lot of metal moving in the bronze lifter block!

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:40 pm

One of the reason i like it so much is the sound of the action.

getitdone1 · Post by **getitdone1** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:42 pm

Pitchy,

Great outfit and guns. Your Indian and arrow "theme" is a good one.

Don't worry one bit about "overdoing it" with pictures and videos. Always appreciated.

Don

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:57 pm

Loaded up some 300 grain cast bullets over 37 grains of 3031 today, they seem to shoot pretty good with no signs over over pressure.
That load doesn`t leave much air space which i like, anyone loading the 45-60 in that range.

Also i slugged the bore by accident and it is 457 and that`s what my sizing die is so good there.
I got lucky, i loaded a couple with some 25 year old reloader seven and the first shot only made it half way down the barrel.
Pulled the rest of them and picked up another can of 3031.

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:48 pm

Pitchy, I think it would be worth trying those new cast bullets with a faster powder, which may seal up the throat and bore a bit better. That will leave more airspace, however. If you have 5744, you might want to try a few loads of that to see how it works. If not, then 2400 would be worth a try. 2400 will give you a sharper pressure spike than 5744 and either will give you a sharper spike than IMR 3031.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:03 pm

Thanks Kirk, i don`t have that powder, i`ll try experimenting a little more with 3031.
I`m going to wait until the new sight gets here before i shoot any more groups.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:50 am

Anyone else out there in wonderland that shoots this caliber speak right up, don`t be bashfull all suggestions are welcome.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:02 pm

Great vid Pitchy. I can see the gun coming back plenty in that vid(recoil wise).

N.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:05 pm

Thanks buddy, i still haven`t made any scarves but haven`t forgot ya, maybe will get one done by next winter.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:33 pm

Hey Pitchy, how stiff is the hammer spring and dust cover on that one of yours? There's one at the local shop here in the Tucson and it's just stiff as heck. The main spring seems [img]real[/img] heavy, and the dust cover is rather hard to slide back and forth. The only thing I have to compare it to is the 1873, so I don't know if they're supposed to be like this.

Thanks,
Oly

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:09 pm

Is it new, out of the box mine was real stiff but after cleaning with WD and oiling it smoothed right up.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:54 am

Will be doing a little tune up work on the 76 next few days, ordered a lighter lever saftey spring and will be thinning out the hammer and trigger springs. Also new buckhorn sight should be here soon .
So hopefully between a better sight and a better trigger pull the groups will get a little better.
If anyone is interested.

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:13 pm

A lighter trigger pull and a better sight can make a big difference. My original '76 had a very heavy trigger pull. I practically have to hook a cable up from the trigger to the hitch on the back of my truck. (well ..... I might be exaggerating a bit, but it is dadgummed hard to pull). I'll look forward to your further updates.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:40 pm

Thanks buddy, will do if possible.

Mike D. · Post by **Mike D.** » Wed May 02, 2012 2:38 pm

Pitchy, I tried 3031 in my Chaparall 45-75 carbine and did not like the results. 45 grains under a 300 grain Laser Cast LFN gave only 1366 FPS with absolutely abysmal results. The cases were badly sooted and the bullets were all over the place. Next I went with IMR 4198. MUCH better. 40 grains, same bullet, gave 1773 FPS average and was VERY accurate. Clean cases and very easy ejection. I'm gonna do the same load only with 250 Barnes TSX. That ought'ta make a A No 1 pig banger.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed May 02, 2012 3:10 pm

Mike D. wrote:Pitchy, I tried 3031 in my Chaparall 45-75 carbine and did not like the results. 45 grains under a 300 grain Laser Cast LFN gave only 1366 FPS with absolutely abysmal results. The cases were badly sooted and the bullets were all over the place. Next I went with IMR 4198. MUCH better. 40 grains, same bullet, gave 1773 FPS average and was VERY accurate. Clean cases and very easy ejection. I'm gonna do the same load only with 250 Barnes TSX. That ought'ta make a A No 1 pig banger.

Thanks Mike, i use 3031 in my 45-70`s so would like to stay with it but after i get the new sight and lighten the trigger it still shoots erratic i`ll try some of that powder.
Thanks for your input.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed May 02, 2012 3:31 pm

On second thought i`m going to see if i can find a can of that powder, i have some data that Shasta sent me showing 29.0 grains at 1366 fps.with imr. 4198
Now that i think of it my 45-70`s haven`t been all that accurate with 3031 either and lot of unburt powder in the barrel.

Pitchy · Post by **Pitchy** » Wed May 02, 2012 4:05 pm

Guess i`ve been banned so won`t be any updates

Whoops forgot to edit this, was all a misunderstanding, all is good.