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Way Off Topic: Electrical & Instrumentation Test Guides
I have a Electrical & Instrumentation a local papermill, Arkansas Craft a park of Green Bay Packaging, test on the 27th that I feel like I am very unprepared for. I have no 3 phase experience, but from what I've learned on my own and talking with others. And feel like I am going to get slaughtered to say the least. I'm been over the internet and gotten what I can but I don't know 2005 or 2008 NEC book. I'm thinking of picking up a copy this weekend, but am wonder if I should or not. Will picking up a copy be helpful? The test is 4 hours classroom and 4 hands on. I'm sure the test will cover PLC's as well, but I think I have that covered. I've been looking for an ISCET practice test but not much luck.
Anybody got any help on this?
Johnny
Anybody got any help on this?
Johnny
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more than likey, you'll have some electonic questions; and ,or and nor gates, along with truth tables. some insulation testing, know how to calculate polarization and dielectric absortation indexes. some didgital electronics. a lot of questions on plc's. be sure to look over the resistor color codes. how to calculate fault current. grounding is a big issue in industry today. series and parrallel circuits, calulating voltage drop, etc. if u use cranes or drives at your facility, brush up on direct current. probably have some trouble shooting questions. if the test involves any hands on troubleshooting, look for clear tape on the contact surface. hope this helps. GOOD LUCK!
Not exactly my trade, I do refrigeration, but for the practical side always trust your meters. The key is to understand what you read. These are your eyes and sometimes they can fool you if you don't understand what the readings mean. Diagrams are also important, they are your map. Follow the circuit from beginning to the end. Never start in the middle because you can miss something real easy ie fuse, loose connection etc. Best of luck and let us know how you make out. We are pulling for you.
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Thank you gentlemen for the info.
Spent hours last night looking for Journeyman Electricans & Industrial Mainetenance Guides but didn't find any at Hastings, a local book/video store.
Also, I'm still unsure how to calculate polarization. I'm thinking I need the linear equation?
Johnny
Spent hours last night looking for Journeyman Electricans & Industrial Mainetenance Guides but didn't find any at Hastings, a local book/video store.
Also, I'm still unsure how to calculate polarization. I'm thinking I need the linear equation?
Johnny
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tman,tman wrote:polarization index 10 min. readind in ohms divided by 1 min. reading in ohm s. dielectric absorbtion rate 1 min. reading divided 30 sec. reading . try to find an ugly's handbook at your hardware store, or electrical supply house. hope this helps
Now that you've said it I seem to recall something along those lines. Thanks for the lead on the book.
Johnny
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Johnny,
This is way out of my league. My son has just entered the apprenticeship program and my nephew has his journeyman's papers both with the I.B.E.W. The nephew has see what appears to be a shortage of instrument tech's and is seeking training along those lines as well. You might see if there is an I.B.E.W. hall near you that might be willing to offer some help.
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This is way out of my league. My son has just entered the apprenticeship program and my nephew has his journeyman's papers both with the I.B.E.W. The nephew has see what appears to be a shortage of instrument tech's and is seeking training along those lines as well. You might see if there is an I.B.E.W. hall near you that might be willing to offer some help.
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After further search on "Polarization Index" I was able to determine what you are referring to.
In the first link they are referring to Insulation Testing.
http://www.maintenanceworld.com/Article ... plesof.pdf
Where as in link they are referring to over all PI.
http://www.contractorsunlimited.co.uk/t ... tion.shtml
My background is in electronics. Electronics and electrical are, what I'm finding, two different worlds.
Johnny
In the first link they are referring to Insulation Testing.
http://www.maintenanceworld.com/Article ... plesof.pdf
Where as in link they are referring to over all PI.
http://www.contractorsunlimited.co.uk/t ... tion.shtml
My background is in electronics. Electronics and electrical are, what I'm finding, two different worlds.
Johnny
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I think you're biting off a huge piece with so little time left. You wont be able to gain much from a NECA code book unless you've familiarized your way around it for some time prior to the test.
I've been a licensed journeyman electricain for over 30 years, and picking up a code book wont do any good, unless you know enough to find your way around inside it.
You might try getting a copy of Audel's Electircian's Handbook, which has a good intro to electrical basics, plus lots of troubleshooting help. The instrumentation part will not be covered in this book or the code book. Instrumentation is a whole other can of worms, which can vary greatly depending on what type of instrumentation they use in the plant.
It could be oven controls that require calibration, and adjustment skills, plus setting up temp controlers, or thermocouples. Could be analog or digital controls of various speed devices, prox. switches, or PLC's. Most companies wont require you to repair PLC's, but rather to install modules and devices, and program. If they require more than setup and assembly, they better be prepared to pay big dollars for your services.
If you had more time you could look into your local community college for classes that might be related to electrical or electronics. Our CC have a good selection, plus code update classes.
Good luck, sounds like you'll need it!
I've been a licensed journeyman electricain for over 30 years, and picking up a code book wont do any good, unless you know enough to find your way around inside it.
You might try getting a copy of Audel's Electircian's Handbook, which has a good intro to electrical basics, plus lots of troubleshooting help. The instrumentation part will not be covered in this book or the code book. Instrumentation is a whole other can of worms, which can vary greatly depending on what type of instrumentation they use in the plant.
It could be oven controls that require calibration, and adjustment skills, plus setting up temp controlers, or thermocouples. Could be analog or digital controls of various speed devices, prox. switches, or PLC's. Most companies wont require you to repair PLC's, but rather to install modules and devices, and program. If they require more than setup and assembly, they better be prepared to pay big dollars for your services.
If you had more time you could look into your local community college for classes that might be related to electrical or electronics. Our CC have a good selection, plus code update classes.
Good luck, sounds like you'll need it!
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UBC is the same. My GC test was open book, and trying to source information from that book required forgetting logic.marlinman93 wrote: You wont be able to gain much from a NECA code book unless you've familiarized your way around it for some time prior to the test.
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Blackhawk, hang in there man and let us know how you do. Could be you've got all the right overall quals for the job, and the areas your missing can be picked up OTJ.
Linear equations. Ha. I'm taking a break right now from EE homework that uses a reciprocal of the reciprocal as one protion of the formula.
I have biten off quite a chunk here. But they've had to have seen something on my resume that got me the spot to take the test. Got a Associates in Electronics and fair amount of OJT w/PLC's so I am trying to study what I can of the electrical side. Test is tomorrow so prayers are appreciated.
Johnny
Johnny
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take the test. if you pass, great, if you don't you'll have an idea what you need to either study up on or get more training on. in this day of downsizing and leaner and meaner, it's doutful that your get much on the job training. your be expected to perform as a rated journyman 2 seconds after you pass the test in the bygone days , you would work under and with experenced people. today , you'll gonna get thrown into it, probably alone. not tring to depress you, just my two cents of experence worth. just be CAREFULL, THINK THE JOB THRU, DONT LET ANY ONE PUSH YOU BEYOND YOUR CAPABILITY. industry is short on qualified technician's. GOOD LUCK!
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Thank you Frank.
Man what a test. 200 questions straight thru in 4 hours. My brain is wore out. Wont know the results for awhile.
Overall though it was good, I think, and look forward to finding out how I did.
Johnny
Man what a test. 200 questions straight thru in 4 hours. My brain is wore out. Wont know the results for awhile.
Overall though it was good, I think, and look forward to finding out how I did.
Johnny
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin