Bought a 1949 and 1957 model 94 over the weekend

[WCF3030]

Pics to come.
Found two 94's one at pawn shop and another at a gun show.
The 1949 is one I had been looking for some time now. I wanted a pre-64 that I could re-blue and re-stock without ruining a vintage rifle. Well someone had taken sand paper to the receiver and looks like at some point they used a screwdriver to pry open the action. Still shoots very well but has lost its collectors value. Paid $220 out the door for it.
The other rifle a 1957 looks near mint but for a gouge in the butt stock. Hopefully the nice stock off the 49 will fit on the 57. That one I paid $300 for.

How did I do?

[Pitchy]

Grats, sounds like you`ll come out all right on those.

[woods-walker]

Sounds like you did good. Looking forward to your pictures. BTW I used to spend a fair amount of time hunting and fishing in Oceana County near Shelby. Beautiful country and close to Lake Michigan. Model 94's work well in those wetlands.

[3leggedturtle]

Sound like really good rifles to find, I luv to find another pre-64 for 300 or less

[WCF3030]

Sounds like you did good. Looking forward to your pictures. BTW I used to spend a fair amount of time hunting and fishing in Oceana County near Shelby. Beautiful country and close to Lake Michigan. Model 94's work well in those wetlands.

Hunted Shelby some and yes I'm fond of the lite carbines in the Michigan woods.

[FatJackDurham]

What is the difference between a 92 and a 94?

[earlmck]

Oh yes, you did well. That had to be pert near a $200 gouge in that '57 buttstock...

[3leggedturtle]

What is the difference between a 92 and a 94?

92's were a shorter action chambered for 218, 25/20, 32/20 38/40, 44/40 and in newer replica 357, 44mag and 45 colt. M94's were chambered for 32/40, 38/55,30/30, 32WS, 7-30 and similar length cartridges. Too me 92's are lots smoother and handier than 94's. Tho would be hard pressed to pick 1 or the other 3leg

[AJMD429]

What is the difference between a 92 and a 94?

The 'guts fall out of' the 94, so they can have the longer cartridge work in a sort of medium-length action. They both have the separate exposed locking lugs that slide up beside the rear of the bolt.

I tend to think of the longer-action guns as 'rifles' and the shorter-action 92's as 'carbines', though the terminology isn't really used that way due to variations in barrel and stock length, weight, and other conventions.

I got my first levergun over forty years ago, but had never owned a 94 Winchester until last year...! Since I already had a Marlin .30-30 and .444, I decided to get a Winchester 94 in .375 Winchester; ammo will have to be loaded up this spring for me to be sure if it shoots as good as it looks.

94's definitely feel 'rattlier' than 92's, but they are a 'classic'.

Still, the Marlins (unlike the Winchesters, both short and long actions are made the same) have way fewer parts and are much easier to do kitchen-table gunsmithing on.

[Hagler]

Lostowl05661,

The Model 1892 came first. The Model 1894 was designed for smokeless ammunition, and for longer amunition. Both guns are about the same size, but the 94's guts drop out of the bottom of the receiver, when you work the lever, to allow the use of the longer rounds. Here is a comparison of the actions:

Model 92:



Model 94:





While both rifles have some kind of safety incorporated in their designs, the 92 has an internal, firining pin retractor, the 94 has a trigger block:

Model 92:



Model 94:



Also, the 92 has TWO locking lugs, one on either side of the breechbolt, and the 94 has ONE locking lug, behind the breechbolt & in front of the hammer.

Both rifles were used extensively in Cowboy movies, but the 92 became one of the most-used rifles, since it could fire "5-in-1" blanks, just like many sixshooters can. Besides, John Wayne had a 92 in many of his films, and so did Chuck Connors:



Here is an article that tells a bit about the Model 94:

http://www.gundigest.com/vintage-gun-hi ... -receivers

Shawn

[FatJackDurham]

Okay, thanks. Is that little lever pin under the stock common to other rifles? I tried one in a store but it was a pain to squeeze the lever to release the hammer.