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J Miller wrote:Those things are useless as txxs on a bull frog. They would be awkward to shoot as you can't stabilize them on your shoulder, they aren't really a rifle, and regardless of the BATFE says they sure aren't a handgun.
Not seen one of any variety 'cept on Wanted Dead or Alive. That's where they should stay, on the Hollywood lot.
If I had $600.00 to spend I'd buy a real Rossi 92 and have something worthwhile.
Sorry, but that's JMNSHO
Joe
AJMD429 wrote:For the ballistics you'd get, I'd just as soon have a .44 Magnum or .454 Casull revolver - much easier to fire one-handed, carry in a holster, and way less paperwork.
I'm sure it's a fun gun-toy, though,and I never fault anyone for wanting one of those...
Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:AJMD429 wrote:For the ballistics you'd get, I'd just as soon have a .44 Magnum or .454 Casull revolver - much easier to fire one-handed, carry in a holster, and way less paperwork.
I'm sure it's a fun gun-toy, though,and I never fault anyone for wanting one of those...
Your half right. These are sold as handguns (never before built as a rifle)and don't require any more paper than any other handgun. If it were a converted rifle it would be an SBR and definately require additional paper and money.
Might be cool to buy one and put a shoulder stock on it and paper it as an SBR.
Now, if one were to put an "extendable" stock on it... it would be a pistol one second and an SBR in another...Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:AJMD429 wrote:For the ballistics you'd get, I'd just as soon have a .44 Magnum or .454 Casull revolver - much easier to fire one-handed, carry in a holster, and way less paperwork.
I'm sure it's a fun gun-toy, though,and I never fault anyone for wanting one of those...
Your half right. These are sold as handguns (never before built as a rifle)and don't require any more paper than any other handgun. If it were a converted rifle it would be an SBR and definately require additional paper and money.
Might be cool to buy one and put a shoulder stock on it and paper it as an SBR.
Alan Wood wrote:Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:AJMD429 wrote:For the ballistics you'd get, I'd just as soon have a .44 Magnum or .454 Casull revolver - much easier to fire one-handed, carry in a holster, and way less paperwork.
I'm sure it's a fun gun-toy, though,and I never fault anyone for wanting one of those...
Your half right. These are sold as handguns (never before built as a rifle)and don't require any more paper than any other handgun. If it were a converted rifle it would be an SBR and definately require additional paper and money.
Might be cool to buy one and put a shoulder stock on it and paper it as an SBR.
Doesn't the order have to be paper it then change?
Doc Hudson wrote:I pretty well agree with Joe Miller.
Sure they look neat, but they are not very usable.
FWIW, Rossi does not list the Ranch Hand on their website.
This think might not be anything more than a trial balloon to see how many folks are interested.
personally I got no interest in the awkward thing.
Steve,
I'm not arguing with you about the legality issues, but the receiver was forged as a rifle receiver even if never assembled as a rifle.
I can remember way back when Remington intorduced the XP-100 a few months later they introduced the Models 600 and 650 using the same action. From what I heard Remington introduced the XP=100 first because a rifle made on a handgun action would be acceptable to BATF (no"E" in those days) but a pistol built on a rifle action would require Federal Tax Stamps.
Has this stupid rule been changed or merely differently interpreted?
Hi Doc,DPris wrote:As with the Chiappa Bounty Hunter, and as noted above, if the receiver HAS NEVER BEEN ASSEMBLED AS A RIFLE, it requires no federal tax stamp to own or possess when built as a handgun.
That's it & that's all.
The Rossi version would fall into exactly the same category as all of the similarly constructed Chiappas, one of which I own & had to do no more paperwork with than the yellow sheet I do on all regular non-NFA purchases.
Denis
They didn't catalog it so I bet it's a planned limited run. Probably left over parts from the JBCUSTOMS deal.Buck Elliott wrote:It may suffer the same fate as Taurus' Gaucho... Discontinued "due to popularity...'