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Wow, I guess the toggle link design is stronger than what we were led to believe. I understand todays steels are better but it was the design that was supposed to be weak. Neat----------Sixgun
Sixgun wrote:Wow, I guess the toggle link design is stronger than what we were led to believe. I understand todays steels are better but it was the design that was supposed to be weak. Neat----------Sixgun
That was my understanding too. Remember how they had to enlarge the action to take rifle length cartridges in the M-1876, and those cartridges had nothing like the pressure of the .44 RemMag.
I'll be interested to see how ordinary shooters react to this rifle in use. Not many paid reviewers I put much confidence in these days. Seems like they like every gun assigned to them or they don't tell the straight dope when they get handed a lemon.
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That is the way they made that model in the old days.
The perch belly was popular and can be seen on many old rifles of the time. They said that rifle is sized to 1/3" of the original size.
I think that little roller in .30-30 or .38-55 will need to be one of my flock.
The little Uberti rolling block is based on the No.2 Remington. The originals had much less perch belly to their stocks, but the cartridges were of pretty low recoil. I think Uberti had to bend the design to keep muzzle flip under recoil acceptable in such a light frame.
The rolling block Remington has been offering is the large No.1 frame.
This is where I am definately not a pioneer in the marketing sense fo the word. Its hard to believe that they would market something that is bound to fail with use, but....
ETA - I do really like those Colt clones though - wow really nice and something different for sure!
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As others have said, it will be interesting to see what they've done. Can't wait for Nate's, Jeff's and others' test drives. I understand the functionality, but the flat shotgun butt with recoil pad on the carbine is unfortunate and an anachronism on a '73 anyway...If I want comfort, I'll goof up a late '94 I hope you can at least get it in the traditional configuration as well (without having to go through the hassle of already doing a butt swap with another)...that's if the .44 turns out to be the real deal!
As long as you stick to blackpowder loades or blackpowder equivalents it ought not be too bad. you'll know you've touched of a heavy bullet but it ought not to hurt as bad as a Guide Gun throwing a 405 gr. slug at 2,000 fps.
i must admit I don't think much of the stock design.
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44 mag in an 1873, dont think I will go there just yet. Love the thought though. Wonder what the casualty rate will be both gun and human. Surely they would not leave themselves open to litigation.
Sixgun wrote:Wow, I guess the toggle link design is stronger than what we were led to believe. I understand todays steels are better but it was the design that was supposed to be weak. Neat----------Sixgun
The modern steel is much stronger, but I'm betting they made a few design changes as well.
Whenever I see a '73 that someone has blown up, it is not the toggle link action that let go, it is the chamber/throat area. So if they use a higher strength steel for the barrel, that would explain how they can do it. Next thing you know, they'll be bringing out a '76 repro chambered for the 458 Winchester Magnum.
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