loads for 50-110

[eagles]

Does any commercial company or private hand loader service (maybe a member ?) load max loads for a newly made 50-110 ? In doing a search I found a company, Mashburns , that had lots of old big bore ammo , they showed a box of 50-110 +P and it said Grizzly ammo but when I went to Grizzly ammo it says the 50-110 is comming soon so it does not appear those were from the same "Grizzly " company . Is their another one ? I found another add for a 450 grain +p close out on the Grizlzy 50-110 but I want a heavier slug , still who is this other Grizzly cartridge company ? My rifle is a newer model 71 action and made to shoot higher velocity rounds, Mike McDermnit says in this gun this round can develop above 458 Winchester performance in the 5,000 ft lbs of energy safely and that is what I am looking for .

[RKrodle]

Mike at Grizzly can be reached at 503-556-3006. He is in the process of totally redoing his web site and it's not up to date. His web site says the same for 348 but I know he has them, I used them to help kill a water buffalo.

[eagles]

Thanks I will call him tomorrow . I had tried him earlier but he probably does not answer on sunday ,as he is working on a special 375 W. for me . Where was the water buffalo hunt and how did the 348 do ? Were you backing up another guy ?

[RKrodle]

Eagles, the water buff was down in Hondo at 86er's place. They had one that was becoming aggressive so CRS, 86er, and myself shot it for the meat. We hunted it until we could all take a shot at the same time. CRS was using a 405 Win, 86er a 375 H&H, and me the 348. Needless to say it hit the ground pretty hard with all 3 of us firing at the same time. The 348 did real good using the Kodiak bonded 250 gr. bullet. About 20 to 24 inches of penetration and great weight retention. That 50-110 should really put the whack on something .

[eagles]

Sounds like realk good penatration .I think mine nmight pack a good wallop , 30 inch barrel to boot to get max velocity and sight radius , bolt peep and dead mule recoil reducer in the stock to help out a little . I want to try one of the Huge Russian Boars at Bear Mountain . they say they have had guys their with that 600 overkill using a 700 grain slug that FAILED to shoot clear through both shoulder plates of a 400 pounder (each side is about two inches of armor ) I killed on 350 pounder in Tennessee with my 75 caliber Jaeger flint lock round ball . At about 25 yards I hit the shoulder plates on purpose and shot clear through !!! The guide with me never saw any modern rifle do that he said . Boar went ten feet and that was it . They can be real tough . If i use the 50-110 I will shoot for the plates again to see what I get . I want at least a 550 grain heavy jacket slug pushing the 5000 ft pounds area and lets see !!!!

[eagles]

I was just told the 50 AK can be shot in any modern 50-110 is that correct . Will it cycle ok etc ?????

[RKrodle]

If you come across a hog that the 50-110 won't shoot through let me know so I can stay clear of that state .

[RKrodle]

I was just told the 50 AK can be shot in any modern 50-110 is that correct . Will it cycle ok etc ?????

The 348 is based off of the 50-110 brass and the 50AK is based off of the 348 but I don't know. When you talk to Mike ask him as he has both.

[RKrodle]

oops double post

[eagles]

I will ,Buffalo Bore ammo says it will , buit will it cycle in the gun not sure . If if can no need for a 50 AK . I iw ll have my 50 AK chambered for 50-110 as well if it can choot both why not . the 50-110 given an equal gun will alllways get more power .

[eagles]

Go to Bear Mountan Boar hunting and look at the calibers and results they have had .on the hogs . THose really big boys have very heavy armor plate

[Malamute]

You don't load your own?

[eagles]

No I dont

[buckeyeshooter]

I get 2050fps out of a 535 woodleigh in my 50ak. You should be able to do better with a 50-110 as you have more room for powder. The 50ak is said to feed in a 50-110 as the only diffeence is length. I will warn you that my guess is that it will not feed well. Just as 38 specials and 44 specials often feed poorly in guns designed for the magnum version -- my get is the shorter 50ak will give you some problems in the way of smooth feeding.

[eagles]

Thanks ,thought i allready posted this here , but I called Grizzly ammo and he WILL load the 525 Grain 50-110 at the 2150 fps for me . He has a 50-110 as well . He normaly loads it down a bit as people were screaming about recoil but that is why I have big bores , if I want low recoil Ill grab the 375 winchester . That said it seems the 50-110 is quite the all arround gun as one could load it down to BP range for deer etc and then be still able to get the full potential in a modern gun . I am thinking the feeding might also be a problem with the 50 AK but who knows . I am surprised some people have not blown up old 50-110 guns trying to shoot the 50 AK !!! Probalby far to valuable for most of them to shoot anyway. GOOD THING !!!!

[COSteve]

If you come across a hog that the 50-110 won't shoot through let me know so I can stay clear of that state .

This one might give you a go.

[eagles]

Is that that" HOGZILLA" pictrure ? If you look at Bear Mountain they have the real Euro Russian boars with the LONG snout and high shoulders. You can see the Domestic in the head of this monster !!!!

[1886]

That is the buff. Ricky shot with Joe, when he was younger. 1886.

[eagles]

What do you mean "the Buff: . Was that the hogs nick name ? How large was that ? 1886 , what caliber , how many shots ?

[COSteve]

What do you mean "the Buff: . Was that the hogs nick name ? How large was that ? 1886 , what caliber , how many shots ?

11 year old Jamison Stone claimed he used a 500 S&W magnum pistol near Delta, Alabama to bag this monster while hunting with his dad. He claimed it took 8 shots to down it. The wild hog was reported to be 9' 4" long and weigh 1,051 pounds. Whether it's true or not is still an open question.

[eagles]

HMMMM seems it would have been easy enough to prove with witneses , Taxidermist , butcher shop etc . Photo shop is real easy . Tat is also a lot of pistol for an elleven year old but maybe . I killed my first bear at 12 , 300 Weatherby . If I bagged a monster like that my first call would be to the press , next the game commision , next a taxidermist . Otherwise its like another big foot story . Is it mounted somewhere , was the skull measured ? My guess is no .

[RKrodle]

The hog in the pic turned out to be wild only in the sense that it had been purchased from a family that had raised it and recently turned loose. If I recall it was darn near a pet. But none the less, if I remember correct the boy did shoot it and it is BIG. I have no problems with it being hunted, but I believe they (maybe dad?) tried to make it more then it was. I imagine it was very exciting for the boy, and it would of made for great bullet testing.

[Mike D.]

Speaking of .50-110s, Cabela's has one I can almost taste, but can't pay the freight on. One of the few LWTD calibers that I do not have and $25K makes it a bit out of reach. So far, they will not negotiate further.

[eagles]

That is what I meant by the shape of that short fat snout , really domestic looking . Still the fact they can get that large ( I sam sure with hormones etc though ) is very interesting . I think most of the true Russian , Euro Maors , the really big ones are in the 400 range . I am sure the young man did have a rush though !!!!

[buckeyeshooter]

Keep beating on them Mike! I'll hold while you hit if you want!!