Seeking advice on putting a "matte" finish on stainless guns

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Seeking advice on putting a "matte" finish on stainless guns

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With my recent 1894 CSS purchase, I've decided I finally need to deal with learning how to refinish a 'stainless' gun. In other words, I want to see if it is possible to do a 'matte' finish of some kind without handing my gun over to a local gunsmith for six months and paying half the cost of a new gun only to find out the job was seriously "Bubba'd" ( :? can you tell I've been burned a couple times...?).

I've seen small sand/bead blasting cabinets for sale, but I've also heard that with stainless, it isn't that hard to burnish the surface with fine grit paper, valve-grinding compound, or even a 'Scotch-brite' pad. Anyone ever redo a stainless gun on their own? I really do hate handing over guns to local 'smiths who can't even put on a scope base without it being misaligned, and I don't want to sent it out long distance and be without it for weeks.

Besides - I'm one of those guys who likes to do (and sometimes screw up) things himself... :? 8)
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Myself, no I've not done that to a stainless gun. Never owned one actually.

However over on The Ruger Forum they talk about this a lot. Most of them use the Scotch Brite pads, or the various grits sanding pads you get at paint stores.

Some of their jobs rival the custom guys. Obviously a lot less expensive.

And yes I can tell you've been singed by bubbas that call themselves gunsmiths. I have too.


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The bead-blasted SBH I bought from CEB is absolutely beautiful....for something I wanted to kill the shine on, I wouldn't hesitate to spend the bucks for it....Remember the DeLorians? You cleaned the stainless panels on it with a scotchbrite pad :lol: Looked good, too, but it's still the color of stainless and kind of bright.
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You can get a cheapo bead blast cabinet from Harbor Freight for about a hundred bucks. I've got a stainless Taurus 357 that I've been thinking of blasting in mine. Those cabinets come in handy, not a bad thing to have in the shop anyway.
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don't know just how unshiny you want.

check this thread out.

http://singleactions.proboards.com/inde ... hread=1293

just enough to break the glare.
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my rossi I think was bead blasted. looks great to me. I have done this to SBH, SRH, and a colt .38 in the past, all with great results using a cheap cabinet.
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I put new stainless barrels on bolt action rifles part time. When a customer wants a finish similar to the factory finishes I have to bead blast them (glass bead) but for anyone who really wants a finish that won't shine or glare (hunting rifle) I use sand and get a little more aggressive. Win 92
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I wasn't looking for the mat finish you're talking about, but I did polish a Speed Six one time. It came out looking like a nickled piece. I'd thing bead blasting would be thte only way to go to get things uniform all over.
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I bought a new sand/bead blaster a year ago, you are welcome to my old one if you want it.
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I would put a fire wire wheel on the grinder and put a "brushed' finish on the steel. It is non-reflective, but have a velvet look about it. I don't like the rougher bead blasted look.
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Charles uses the same method I recomend. Works well, is fast and easy to do, and very easy to touch up.


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This is not exactly an answer to your question but have you considered DuraCoat for a blackened finish? I have components to make a double rifle from NEW parts, but they are stainless and therefore won't take traditional bluing or blackening. I have researched a number of finishes and determined that DuraCoat is a nice black tone, weather resistant, tough, can be touched up easily or re-finished and fairly easy and inexpensive to apply. It is a two part process. If you consider putting a black matte finish on your stainless gun, this may be a good option for you.
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Thats what I used for my Ithaca deerslayer.(HK BLUE/GRAY) its Exactly as Joe says!
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Hmmm...

1. What's a "fire wheel" - I do have a bench grinder...?

2. How difficult is bead blasting and if the item is a long part, do the cabinets have openings in the ends to pass it through or do you have to have a cabinet as big as your biggest gun part...?

Appearance-wise, I'm mostly after a more subdued look - kind of like the difference in a new, shiny brass-framed gun, vs. one with a normal patina of age.

Perfection-wise, at least at this point, I realize whatever I do may look silly, but so do I, and at least that way people will know my guns and I belong together... I wouldn't dare refinish a mint-condition Ruger No.1, or an antique with collector value, but my 'shooters' get dinged, scratched, and scuffed anyway, so little I can do wrong worries me.
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AJMD429 wrote:Hmmm...

1. What's a "fire wheel" - I do have a bench grinder...?
I believe that he meant that to read "fine wire wheel", as in not course wire.
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Doc,Here is what the Duracoat in SS looks like on an example of a Ruger 10/22 http://www.jimsgunsupply.com/DuraCoat/d ... s_1022.jpg

Dulls it up/no sanding etc.just spray er on and now you have this hardcore protective finish with touchup left over if ever needed!
86er was right on the money with this idea!
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Looks really nice on that Ruger. I wouldn't mind doing that with an aluminum or blued-but-needs-refinished gun, but hopefully starting with stainless I can just do some sort of blasting, buffing or 'firewheeling' (?).
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Re: Seeking advice on putting a "matte" finish on stainless guns

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There is nothing that you can screw up with sand that you can't fix with glass beads, if they are the same size. I am sure your marlin has a bead finish.
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