Question for Kirk

[hondo1892]

Kirk do you get unburned powder with 5744 in your 45-60 loads. I loaded some up with 22 grains for my Uberti 1876 and had unburned powder. Do you use magnum primers or standard? It's not a lot of powder for that size case.

[KirkD]

Hondo, it so happened that I just got back from the range with my '76, so I took a peek down the muzzle. My load is 26.2 grains under a 318 grain cast GC bullet for 1,337 fps, an E.S. of 9 fps, and an S.D. of 4 fps. I counted about 20 kernels in the first roughly 6 or 7" of barrel down from the muzzle. The number of kernels decreased as I looked down the barrel toward the chamber. Maybe there was a total of 60 kernels, roughly. These do not matter to me, as long as I don't have kernels falling out of the chamber and gumming up my action, which I don't have. My load is very accurate, and has excellent burning consistency judging by the very low E.S., so I'm happy. I use either Winchester large rifle primers or Winchester Magnum primers, whichever happens to be handy. Today, it was the Magnum primers. Your load of 22 grains is very mild.

[Sixgun]

I go through 10-14 pounds of it a year in a dozen different calibers. Its the nature of the beast. Magnum primers do not help. Apply a solid crimp.--------------Sixgun

[hondo1892]

Thanks guys. Kirk I started with the 22 grs because that was the recomended starting load. I didn't have enough cases to do as many different loads as I would like. I plan to do load some up with heavier charges this next time around. I hope to get my order of brass from Jamison soon.

[morgan in nm]

Thanks guys. Kirk I started with the 22 grs because that was the recomended starting load. I didn't have enough cases to do as many different loads as I would like. I plan to do load some up with heavier charges this next time around. I hope to get my order of brass from Jamison soon.

I don't mean to hijack your thread but I was wondering, have you ever tried Jamison brass? The local gun shop has 100rds loaded by some outfit I cant remember the name of and he wants to sell these but he wants $135 for them. I have been using cut-down remington 45-70 brass but was thinking it would be nice to have 45-60 brass that was marked appropriately.

[Old No7]

Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, so...

Here's some pix of loads from my .38-55 Winch High Wall (which has a "lever"... ) using xmp5744 and sr4759:

38-55 Fouling xmp5744.jpg

Cleanliness is next to Godliness is another saying, but in my rifle -- your mileage may vary -- it's also next to better accuracy!!!

38-55 Fouling sr4759.jpg

Both loads use WLR primers and the same 245gr RNFP bullet.

So, you can guess which powder I'm using...

Either way, good luck and tight groups!

Old No7

[Old Savage]

I know this is different but the most accurate load in my 6 1/2" 44 spl uses 12.5 gr of 2400 and it always left unburned kernels in the barrel.

[hondo1892]

Morgan Jamison is selling there new batch of brass at $1.28. It used to be cheaper but with metal prices going up and the Obama factor they have went way up.

[hondo1892]

Kirk what is your starting load for sr4759 for the 45-60? I seen that you have used it befor but I couldn't find it with any of my searches.