OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:07 pm

Actually looks more fun than punishing. 200 gr. Fg with a 1750 gr. round ball.

http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c313/ ... CN0362.flv

here's the message string:
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/ind ... pic=3337.0

deerwhacker444 · Post by **deerwhacker444** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:55 pm

If someone wanted to fab such a beast, where would an individual find a barrel that size?

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:30 pm

I think some custom barrel makers like Ed Rayle will make you a beast like that. Some guys I believe use pipes which are not necessarily made of hard gun steel, which is pretty controversial. This looks like a high quality gun so I'm betting one of the custom BP barrel makers made it for him.

Doc Hudson · Post by **Doc Hudson** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:58 pm

Y'all realize of course that that cannon would be more comfortable to shoot from a standing rest than seated.

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:48 pm

Doc Hudson wrote:Y'all realize of course that that cannon would be more comfortable to shoot from a standing rest than seated.

He's probably afraid that he will drop it Doc. If a guy stumbled back it would be easy to put it in the dirt. That's just what I'm thinking but I agree, it would be much easier to shoot standing. He's only using 200 Gr. but that is a light charge for the 4 bore. Also, it can be tough on ranges back here trying to find a standing rest or even a range table that allows you to sit up properly while shooting. I break out a pair of home made standing cross sticks when I shoot my Winchester Big Bore, but I'm waiting for a range officer to tell me they are illegal. Thats the way it is here, and that video looks like here but not sure.

don Tomás · Post by **don Tomás** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:59 pm

4 bore! Sorry, I've become way too attached to my retinas...

Tom

Shasta · Post by **Shasta** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:23 pm

If you think you might be interested in buying or building a really BIG BORE muzzleloader, contact Joe Williams at The Gun Works in Springfield, Oregon. He has a website, but I don't believe it mentions the availability of behemoth barrels and/or guns, so you may have to ask.

My brother built a 2 bore half-round barrel flintlock, a 4 bore flintlock with full octagon barrel, an octagon percussion 8 bore, and had started a 6 bore using barrels from The Gun Works. Unfortunately my brother suffered a heart attack and passed away before he got very far along with the 6 bore.

I have shot the 2, 4, and 8 bore, and they are for the time being in my possession. The 8 is not bad at all on the shooter. The 4 and the 2 are fine for up to 200 gr. charges, but with much more than that, they take the "n" out of "fun"!

Here is a pic of my brother with his 2 bore;

Shasta

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:43 pm

No, nope, uh-uh, ain't happenin', nein, nyet, non, not a chance, no way Jose, the idea is a non-starter, not just no but Hell no, and my favorite, man falling off a cliff: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:44 pm

I'd have to try it at least once.

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:04 pm

TedH wrote:I'd have to try it at least once.

I be glad to stand by and watch ya but thats about it.

spaceman spiff · Post by **spaceman spiff** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:48 pm

JReed wrote:
I be glad to stand by and watch ya but thats about it.

You're a wise man...... I'd watch with you.

Troy

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:11 pm

Shasta wrote:If you think you might be interested in buying or building a really BIG BORE muzzleloader, contact Joe Williams at The Gun Works in Springfield, Oregon. He has a website, but I don't believe it mentions the availability of behemoth barrels and/or guns, so you may have to ask.

My brother built a 2 bore half-round barrel flintlock, a 4 bore flintlock with full octagon barrel, an octagon percussion 8 bore, and had started a 6 bore using barrels from The Gun Works. Unfortunately my brother suffered a heart attack and passed away before he got very far along with the 6 bore.

I have shot the 2, 4, and 8 bore, and they are for the time being in my possession. The 8 is not bad at all on the shooter. The 4 and the 2 are fine for up to 200 gr. charges, but with much more than that, they take the "n" out of "fun"!

Here is a pic of my brother with his 2 bore;

Shasta

Wow!!!! Alright Shasta....can we get a video of you touching off that 2 bore????

Very neat. Sorry to hear about your brother....hate to hear that. Looks you guys had some good fun together.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:14 pm

don Tomás wrote:4 bore! Sorry, I've become way too attached to my retinas...
Tom

And other "parts"!

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:50 am

I wuz born durring the day but it weren't yesterday.

I think I'd just watch y'all watch him.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:03 am

shoot'em gut'em and quarter him all in 1 shot
bet that hurt.....

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:36 pm

Rusty wrote:I wuz born durring the day but it weren't yesterday.

I think I'd just watch y'all watch him.

LOL

Hey I'll save ya a seat and make sure there is a cold one in the cooler for ya.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:40 pm

Awe c'mon guys! You wouldn't really turn down a chance to light off a beast like that, would you?

awp101 · Post by **awp101** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:46 pm

TedH wrote:Awe c'mon guys! You wouldn't really turn down a chance to light off a beast like that, would you?

The words "No thanks" couldn't roll off my tongue fast enough...

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:48 pm

Now, now fellas...all they've done here is re-create Elmer Keith's boyhood squirrel rig, before he decided he needed something bigger.

It doesn't look too bad....like having a car hit you at at only 10 mph. There was another video out there of a group shooting larger charges....I think 250 or 300 gr. charges in the 4 bore. It is gone now but was funny to watch. From info posted on the original thread, aparently if you were shooting Elephant in Africa you would use between 320-430 gr. of Fg, or about 120-230 grains more black powder than these fellas are using. I'm just wondering how many fellas injured themselves shooting these loads?

(disclaimer: I like Elmer Keith, this is a joke)

deerwhacker444 · Post by **deerwhacker444** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:38 pm

My heart says sure, I'd like to shoot it, but my brain says absolutely not. The hardest I've ever been kicked was shooting a 2 oz (875 gr.) turkey load thru my alloy framed 12 ga. It was a snot slinger and left a nice bruise, probably wasn't very smart. I can't imagine being kicked by 1800 gr. worth.

Shasta: Sorry bout your brother. I swear I've seen a pic of him or someone else who looks alot like him holding one of the big bores a while back. The photo was a little more from the front so you get to see a good pic of the rifle and I think it was in black and white. For the life of me I can't remember where it was posted thou.

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:09 am

The alloy framed Mossberg Turkey Gun shooting the 3.5" Mag. is an interesting ride for sure. It will really get your attention. I shot one and like Don Tomas...realized how fond I was of my retina's being attached

turnkey · Post by **turnkey** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:36 pm

Where's the wheels?

OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?

Re: OT: For Recoil Junkies....a 4 bore Wall Gun?