House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
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House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
I just got this in an email from a retired police officer. I don't know anything else about. Do you?Are you ready for the House Bill titled 'HR 45, Blair
Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009'. It will make it
illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the
database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to
be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#,
SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit
to mental and physical health records being put on file, you
will also be required to file any address changes and any
ownership changes even if a private sale. Each update will
cost $25 and if you fail to comply you will lose your right
to own firearms. This bill and its language mirror almost
completely one defeated last year in the House of
Representatives by soon to be Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.
Will we the citizenry be as lucky this time?
Pass this on to everyone who believes in strict
Constitutionalism and remember that laws only apply to those
who obey them. Criminals by definition and nature do not
abide by laws. New laws and restrictions only apply to the
law abiding citizen and are not written with the criminal in
mind. With guns, it is not about having laws on the books to
prosecute individuals, it is about taking guns away from the
people so that no one has them in the first place.
One last item to note, when assuming power and creating a
facist state, Hitler was a proponent of strong gun laws
because a disarmed populace was much easier to control than
an armed one. The kings of old also outlawed weapons of any
kind in any region that they conquered to quell the ability
of the citizens to rise up against them.
The Founding Fathers of this nation understood all of the
above and because of this they included the second amendment
in the constitution. In fact, they knew that at some point
in every society's life span that the need for the
population to arise came about. To this end they made the
right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical state an
absolute right that could not be revoked. They did this
because the first thing tyrants and despots do is to remove
a population's right to defend themselves When this is
done, the tyrants have no problem with the destruction of
society as we know it.
Send this on to all true patriots! Protect your Second
Amendment!
The following is a summary of the bill as provided by the
Congressional Research Service. If you read the whole bill,
you'll find it will effectively preclude the ownership
of ANY firearms by law-abiding people unless licensed by the
Attorney General. How long do you think THAT would take??
Congressional Research Service Summary:
The following summary was written by the Congressional
Research Service, a well-respected nonpartisan arm of the
Library of Congress. GovTrack did not write and has no
control over these summaries.
1/6/2009--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act
of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that
person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a
state system certified under this Act and such license has
not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license
application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm
unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the
license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking
authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting
and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorne y
General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale
system.
Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other
than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a
licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal
background check system requirements, with exceptions;
(2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to
comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of
this Act;
(3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to
the Attorney General within 72 hours;
(4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address
change within 60 days; or
(5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and
ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly
disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining
access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or
serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms
provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain
a firearm injury information clearin ghouse; (2) conduct
continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related
deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current
production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm
licensing or record of sale systems.
ref: http://www.nolanchart.com/article5821.html
Pleased be advised and pass this along: House Bill HR 45,
Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009 will, in my
opinion, be the first of 2 or 3 steps toward confiscation of
privately owned firearms.
Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009'. It will make it
illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the
database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to
be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#,
SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit
to mental and physical health records being put on file, you
will also be required to file any address changes and any
ownership changes even if a private sale. Each update will
cost $25 and if you fail to comply you will lose your right
to own firearms. This bill and its language mirror almost
completely one defeated last year in the House of
Representatives by soon to be Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.
Will we the citizenry be as lucky this time?
Pass this on to everyone who believes in strict
Constitutionalism and remember that laws only apply to those
who obey them. Criminals by definition and nature do not
abide by laws. New laws and restrictions only apply to the
law abiding citizen and are not written with the criminal in
mind. With guns, it is not about having laws on the books to
prosecute individuals, it is about taking guns away from the
people so that no one has them in the first place.
One last item to note, when assuming power and creating a
facist state, Hitler was a proponent of strong gun laws
because a disarmed populace was much easier to control than
an armed one. The kings of old also outlawed weapons of any
kind in any region that they conquered to quell the ability
of the citizens to rise up against them.
The Founding Fathers of this nation understood all of the
above and because of this they included the second amendment
in the constitution. In fact, they knew that at some point
in every society's life span that the need for the
population to arise came about. To this end they made the
right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical state an
absolute right that could not be revoked. They did this
because the first thing tyrants and despots do is to remove
a population's right to defend themselves When this is
done, the tyrants have no problem with the destruction of
society as we know it.
Send this on to all true patriots! Protect your Second
Amendment!
The following is a summary of the bill as provided by the
Congressional Research Service. If you read the whole bill,
you'll find it will effectively preclude the ownership
of ANY firearms by law-abiding people unless licensed by the
Attorney General. How long do you think THAT would take??
Congressional Research Service Summary:
The following summary was written by the Congressional
Research Service, a well-respected nonpartisan arm of the
Library of Congress. GovTrack did not write and has no
control over these summaries.
1/6/2009--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act
of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that
person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a
state system certified under this Act and such license has
not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license
application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm
unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the
license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking
authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting
and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorne y
General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale
system.
Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other
than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a
licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal
background check system requirements, with exceptions;
(2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to
comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of
this Act;
(3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to
the Attorney General within 72 hours;
(4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address
change within 60 days; or
(5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and
ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly
disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining
access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or
serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms
provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain
a firearm injury information clearin ghouse; (2) conduct
continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related
deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current
production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm
licensing or record of sale systems.
ref: http://www.nolanchart.com/article5821.html
Pleased be advised and pass this along: House Bill HR 45,
Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009 will, in my
opinion, be the first of 2 or 3 steps toward confiscation of
privately owned firearms.
"That'll Be The Day"
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
It was reported on the news last night that the Holt Bill had been incorporated into the stimulus package and that is one reason they wanted it rammed through so fast so that people wouldn't know it was there.
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
From the NRA website:
Rumors and the Economic Stimulus Bill
Friday, February 13, 2009
We have been hearing many rumors, and receiving many inquiries, about "buried" provisions in the federal economic stimulus bill that would negatively affect our Second Amendment rights. People have claimed the bill would designate interstate highways as national parks, or impose ammunition encoding and new ammunition taxes. Fortunately, and contrary to what you may have heard, there are no provisions in this bill prohibiting firearms or ammunition anywhere, or for anyone.
The only reference in the bill to firearms is a provision authorizing funds for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' (BATFE) "Project Gunrunner," which is a program that enforces existing laws to reduce smuggling of firearms from the United States to Mexico. This program imposes no new restrictions on gun owners, and if it did, we can assure you we would take swift action.
Needless to say, NRA, as a single-issue organization, takes no position on the economic stimulus legislation as a whole.
For more information and to view the legislation yourself, you can visit http://www.readthestimulus.org/. The site features a convenient search function and covers every version of the legislation.
Rumors and the Economic Stimulus Bill
Friday, February 13, 2009
We have been hearing many rumors, and receiving many inquiries, about "buried" provisions in the federal economic stimulus bill that would negatively affect our Second Amendment rights. People have claimed the bill would designate interstate highways as national parks, or impose ammunition encoding and new ammunition taxes. Fortunately, and contrary to what you may have heard, there are no provisions in this bill prohibiting firearms or ammunition anywhere, or for anyone.
The only reference in the bill to firearms is a provision authorizing funds for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' (BATFE) "Project Gunrunner," which is a program that enforces existing laws to reduce smuggling of firearms from the United States to Mexico. This program imposes no new restrictions on gun owners, and if it did, we can assure you we would take swift action.
Needless to say, NRA, as a single-issue organization, takes no position on the economic stimulus legislation as a whole.
For more information and to view the legislation yourself, you can visit http://www.readthestimulus.org/. The site features a convenient search function and covers every version of the legislation.
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
Ed, this has been thrashed around quite a bit on the gun boards this morning, seems like it is a mis-statement by the New Hampshire representative being interviewed on Glen Beck yesterday. No one can find any other reference to it, I myself have googled myself silly over it and cant find anything. I believe if it were true the revolution would have started already.Modoc ED wrote:It was reported on the news last night that the Holt Bill had been incorporated into the stimulus package and that is one reason they wanted it rammed through so fast so that people wouldn't know it was there.
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
Yes, I saw that interview and heard it there but I also heard it reported on one of their later programs in a news break.jnyork wrote:Ed, this has been thrashed around quite a bit on the gun boards this morning, seems like it is a mis-statement by the New Hampshire representative being interviewed on Glen Beck yesterday. No one can find any other reference to it, I myself have googled myself silly over it and cant find anything. I believe if it were true the revolution would have started already.Modoc ED wrote:It was reported on the news last night that the Holt Bill had been incorporated into the stimulus package and that is one reason they wanted it rammed through so fast so that people wouldn't know it was there.
Like I said, "We'll see"!!! There's a lot of stuff in that bill that nobody even has a clue to. Even some of the drafters from one office to another don't know what was put it. I found it interesting that the White House said that after it came down to the White House that Obama was going to work on it -- Huh? That ain't suppose to be how it works. I think they'll be discovering things in that bill for some time to come. Only time will tell.
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
I think it should be retittled "House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Revolution Stimulus and Inciting Act 2009".
Because that's the actual effect it will have.
Game on.
Because that's the actual effect it will have.
Game on.
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
was defeated before cmt. I posted this on the political forum. We have to stay aware and fight all legislation
Mike Johnson,
"Only those who will risk going too far, can possibly find out how far one can go." T.S. Eliot
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
Well good. I wasn't quite ready for the revolution yet... ![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
Fella's mark this link http://thomas.loc.gov/
There you can check on any house or senate bills pending. You can also check to see how your elected reps in DC voted on bills.
There you can check on any house or senate bills pending. You can also check to see how your elected reps in DC voted on bills.
Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
What is interesting is that we posted on this a couple of WEEKS ago and last year but it is a surprise to so many. We all need to stay aware and be ready to (if you haven't already and continue to do so) let your reps know that you're opposed.
Sincerely,
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
Hobie
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
+1rjohns94 wrote:was defeated before cmt. I posted this on the political forum. We have to stay aware and fight all legislation
I firmly believe we need to inform ALL our legislators BEFORE the next 'gun bill' comes up that we EXPECT them to stand firm and not compromise.
If we rely on the 'organizations' to inform and motivate us, by the time a vote comes, there's only 24 hours notice, and we rarely can get through to the legislators, who BY THAT TIME HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MINDS and committed to support it via back-room handshake deals and tradeoffs for other legislation.
Our lethargy and ignorance must not be allowed to stall us out any more than our following 'rumors' - contact your legislator NOW before the 'urgent' gun bill(s) come up for vote.
See my post http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... =4&t=14001 for a sample letter to your Legislative Leech Loser Lunatic...
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Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
Sorry, the email that was sent to me said that he thought it was passed last night as written. ![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
Anybody know how to file a lawsuit against a bill that violate your rights?
If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
Isiah 55:8&9
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
I believe this is how the Stimulus/HR45 rumor got started... a very poorly written headline:
http://www.magic-city-news.com/Editor_s ... 1500.shtml
The headline and article discuss how HR45 is trying to be rammed through under the COVER of the stimulus bill... i.e. everyone is paying attention to a $700bil boondoggle and not paying attention to a monsterous Gun Control Bill written by a Black Panther/Felon trying to be passed at the same time...
http://www.magic-city-news.com/Editor_s ... 1500.shtml
The headline and article discuss how HR45 is trying to be rammed through under the COVER of the stimulus bill... i.e. everyone is paying attention to a $700bil boondoggle and not paying attention to a monsterous Gun Control Bill written by a Black Panther/Felon trying to be passed at the same time...
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Re: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act 2009
First, you have to have Standing... which means you have to have been arrested/convicted before you can "prove" your Rights have been violated...Rusty wrote:Anybody know how to file a lawsuit against a bill that violate your rights?
Hellova way to run a country...
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מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
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Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976
Gott und Gewehr mit uns!