Lever Action for Self-Defense on Shooting Gallery Today

[kemosabi45]

Shooting Gallery TV Show on the OutDoor Channel is doing a show today on The Lever Action for Self-Defense. Today is Wed. Jan 28

[AJMD429]

Post a followup - we don't have TV here...

[J Miller]

What AJMD said. We don't get cable.

Joe

[Southern Bamboo]

Oops, I posted up above, didn't see it down here but obviously didn't look hard enough.

Hopefully it'll be on the net somewhere.

'Boo

[Mike D.]

I saw it , but the whole episode was silly. Heavily biased toward Marlins that were turned into sleazy looking copies of EBRs. The part about "car-bean" self defense was demonstrated using a '92 rifle. Maybe it's just me, but the pronouncing the word carbine as "car-bean" doesn't sound quite right.

[Whit Spurzon]

Car-Bean is how it's listed in my dictionary'

<a> href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictiona ... carbine</a>

[kirkwood]

I saw it , but the whole episode was silly. Heavily biased toward Marlins that were turned into sleazy looking copies of EBRs. The part about "car-bean" self defense was demonstrated using a '92 rifle. Maybe it's just me, but the pronouncing the word carbine as "car-bean" doesn't sound quite right.

I've rarely heard it pronounced any other way than car-bean.

[John in MS]

Jeff Cooper noted that the correct pronunciation, in his opinion, was Car-BINE. He was well educated and known for his prowess with the English language. For all that, however correct he may have been, I suspect
you'll get a lot of wierd looks and some corrections if you say Car-BINE rather than Car-Bean...

John

[edwardyoung]

I think it's a regional thing. Here in the backwards South, I always hear it pronounced car-bean.

[JohndeFresno]

According to Merriam Webster online pronunciation, it's car-bean:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/ ... av=carbine

According to Answers.com, it comes from the French word of similar pronunciation:
Dictionary:
carbine
(kär'be-n', -bi-n') pronunciation
.....[Note - no "bine" alternative here - JdeF].....
n.
A lightweight rifle with a short barrel.
[French carabine, from Old French carabin, soldier armed with a musket, perhaps from escarrabin, gravedigger, from scarabee, dung beetle. See scarab.]

[Rexster]

Well, for those of use with rabbit ears on our caveman TVs, what was the substance of the show, please? It is car-bean here in SE Texas, too, FWIW.

[Griff]

Good show. Show was about showing techniques on using a levergun as a tactical weapon... much as you'd use an EBR or shotgun in a houseclearing exercise.

The big deal, don't show the gun, don't allow it to become a weapon or handle to be used against you. Good show.

[kemosabi45]

Here is link to a little of what it looked like http://www.downrange.tv/shootinggallery/episode109.htm

I liked it in general but then again I like anything to do with lever guns.

I like the small Aim-Piont site on the one, I also have old man eyes and can't use the steel sites for long range shooting.

XS sites is making a tactical forearm for hanging stuff on it but they said the 45-70 is the first one to be made.
A 45-70 for home defence is a little much in my opion
Why do you need to buy a special tactical forearm I would just use a rail and a few screws or this http://www.wildwestguns.com/products.html

They also said that rural police agencies are more in favor of using a 30-30 lever gun for tactcal use than using the AR15.

Hre is a link to Banes blog let him know that we would like the episode listed on his site.http://www.downrange.tv/blog/

[Old Ironsights]

...Hre is a link to Banes blog let him know that we would like the episode listed on his site.http://www.downrange.tv/blog/

I did that yesterday on the Comment form.

They responded quickly and said they would look into it.

[C. Cash]

I saw most of it but was exhausted and had to hit the hay. It seemed well done...good to see the Lever brought back into consideration for a defensive firearm in the eyes of the masses(most of us knew that it would do just fine all along). Loading a lever the way he showed can be problematic for many levers. Some don't like it when the whole round is passed into the loading gate until it's completely in the mag tube, and then trying to insert the next cartridge. I put the first round about three quarters into the loading gate, then follow up with another round on top which goes three quarters in, until the last round when it of course is inserted fully into the gun. That part takes practice but it's always been much faster for me with the 94 Win. My first 94 would not load the second round until I started doing it the way I do now and my Big Bore shows the same tendency.

[Old Ironsights]

I've found that loading my Rossi with the same Speed Strips I carry for my CCW is really pretty quick...

Top-feeding is handy too if all you've got is a pocket full.

[Nath]

It's car BINE over ere'

Nath.

[Hillbilly]

Anything that has a 6 to 10 round capacity... and can be topped off -on the move-without opening the action up- is good in my book.

You learn real fast to leave a little bit of rim showing in the gate...lots easier to shove the next round in that way.

[Mike D.]

Sorry if y'all like the pronunciation "car-bean", but I don't buy it. It may be ONLY me, but "car-byne" sounds much better to my ears. Petty though it may be, I gotta stick to my guns.

My choice of home defense weapon has always been a Winchester '97 trench shotgun, loaded with game loads of #5 lead shot. Good enough for close in work, and it won't penetrate several walls and the neighbor's house.

[kimwcook]

Good show. Show was about showing techniques on using a levergun as a tactical weapon... much as you'd use an EBR or shotgun in a houseclearing exercise.

The big deal, don't show the gun, don't allow it to become a weapon or handle to be used against you. Good show.

+1

I liked the forend on the 45-70 GG. To bad they didn't at least paint the buttstock black. It would be nice to see a tactical change out made to incorporate the buttstock and forend.