Carrying a SAA revolver
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Carrying a SAA revolver
Most of my friends know that when they see me carrying a belt gun it’s almost always going to be a Colt or USFA 4 3/4 inch SAA chambered in .45 Colt.
I don’t tell anyone else what to do, but the factors of size, weight, power and accuracy seem to be just about perfect for my needs.
Here’s a good discussion from two guys who sort of disagree with my point of view. But it is interesting to hear what they have to say.
https://youtu.be/UDvobKqoToQ?si=kiM3uSxTWbbhhbY4
I don’t tell anyone else what to do, but the factors of size, weight, power and accuracy seem to be just about perfect for my needs.
Here’s a good discussion from two guys who sort of disagree with my point of view. But it is interesting to hear what they have to say.
https://youtu.be/UDvobKqoToQ?si=kiM3uSxTWbbhhbY4
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I carried my Freedom Arms Model 97 using the .45 ACP cylinder quite a lot in past years. Also my old model Ruger .357 that I shortened the barrel to 4 inches.
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I think it makes sense if a SAA is what you shoot well, and feel comfortable carrying for self defense. It may not be what everyone feels comfortable carrying, but same goes for almost any revolver. Most people think they need a semiauto handgun with 13 rds. or more, and numerous spare mags. The truth is most self defense shootings never result in that many shots fired. If I felt comfortable defending myself with a SAA I'd carry the same .45 Colt in a 4.75" barrel also.
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I shoot this gun more consistent well than any other. Even on a cold day like today. That’s about 15 yards.
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Even a factory duplication load of 6 gr Red Dot and a soft 255 gr Hornady Cowboy bullet will blast right through a treated 4x4.
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I have never as a civilian needed to pull a trigger on someone. According to what I read, 6 shots should be plenty. Punching through a treated 4 X4 is proof to me that it would be enough to damage a human severely.
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Me neither. I haven’t been in a fistfight since I hung up the badge 30 years ago
But there’s no reason to believe that the.45 Colt is lacking in effectiveness
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I have never met anyone who can punch and break a 4X4.
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I've been carrying for around 15 years. In that time I've carried a variety of guns from an NAA mini, a S&W 642, an LCP, and several full sized guns like a S&W 4006, Glock 22, and several 1911s.
I've been carrying a single action, a Blackhawk more specifically, for about 5 years now. Prior to my deciding to carry a single action, I would go to the range and either not shoot my carry gun, or shoot a few mags and then switch to shooting single actions. I was basically carrying something that I didn't really have an interest in. A gun that I forced myself to shoot.
I've always had a single action Ruger since I've owned guns. My first handgun was a New Model Blackhawk in 357 Magnum. Before my own, as a youngster, I learned how to shoot on a Single Six.
So, I got a holster and I started packing a Blackhawk around on the farm. I'd switch to a 1911 if I was going to town, then one day I jumped in the car and took off for a quick dollar store run and realized I didn't change my gun. I was comfortable.
I asked my wife if she'd be comfortable with me carrying a single action all the time. Her response was "I'm comfortable with it, you're good with a single action." I am not only good at shooting one, but loading and unloading. I'm not fumbly like a semi-auto guy that just got his first single action.
I can unload and reload my Blackhawk in under 20 seconds (I think the last I timed it was 17 seconds). Which, granted is an eternity in the self defense/auto loader world. The point is, it's about as speedy as a single action can be.
I mentioned that I carry a single action on another forum, which is geared towards self defense. I knew I'd catch flak, but I was feeling spunky. I got comments like: "You're irresponsible because there are better choices to defend your family", "If you're not comfortable with anything else it's better than a rock", "you're as good as dead in a self defense situation", "stop playing cowboy and get a real gun", and "I force myself to train with a gun I hate because it's the best tool for the job because I love my family."
I choose to carry a single action revolver because that's the type of gun I like. I also do not train to be a gunfighter with any type of gun. I train to be aware, and to be able to present my gun in a timely matter if need be. I am aware of the fact that if I need more than 6 shots, I will likely be out of luck.
I've been carrying a single action, a Blackhawk more specifically, for about 5 years now. Prior to my deciding to carry a single action, I would go to the range and either not shoot my carry gun, or shoot a few mags and then switch to shooting single actions. I was basically carrying something that I didn't really have an interest in. A gun that I forced myself to shoot.
I've always had a single action Ruger since I've owned guns. My first handgun was a New Model Blackhawk in 357 Magnum. Before my own, as a youngster, I learned how to shoot on a Single Six.
So, I got a holster and I started packing a Blackhawk around on the farm. I'd switch to a 1911 if I was going to town, then one day I jumped in the car and took off for a quick dollar store run and realized I didn't change my gun. I was comfortable.
I asked my wife if she'd be comfortable with me carrying a single action all the time. Her response was "I'm comfortable with it, you're good with a single action." I am not only good at shooting one, but loading and unloading. I'm not fumbly like a semi-auto guy that just got his first single action.
I can unload and reload my Blackhawk in under 20 seconds (I think the last I timed it was 17 seconds). Which, granted is an eternity in the self defense/auto loader world. The point is, it's about as speedy as a single action can be.
I mentioned that I carry a single action on another forum, which is geared towards self defense. I knew I'd catch flak, but I was feeling spunky. I got comments like: "You're irresponsible because there are better choices to defend your family", "If you're not comfortable with anything else it's better than a rock", "you're as good as dead in a self defense situation", "stop playing cowboy and get a real gun", and "I force myself to train with a gun I hate because it's the best tool for the job because I love my family."
I choose to carry a single action revolver because that's the type of gun I like. I also do not train to be a gunfighter with any type of gun. I train to be aware, and to be able to present my gun in a timely matter if need be. I am aware of the fact that if I need more than 6 shots, I will likely be out of luck.
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Most of us were raised on John Wayne, we need to be able to defend ourselves ,today’s shooters were raised on Jon Wick, and need to be ready to defend against 20 ninjas at any time.
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It’s funny how carrying a sixgun is now considered irresponsible when folks have been carrying them regularly since Colt started making a holster gun.
It’s like our ancestors were not armed sufficiently to fight the Comanche, to conduct hostilities in the War of Northers Aggression and to defend against bandits (see Patton’s experience in Vera Cruz) and outlaws of every sort for 150 years.
It’s like our ancestors were not armed sufficiently to fight the Comanche, to conduct hostilities in the War of Northers Aggression and to defend against bandits (see Patton’s experience in Vera Cruz) and outlaws of every sort for 150 years.
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https://texasescapes.com/JefferyRobenal ... volver.htm
"they fired only 150 shots....."
Let this soak into the little grey cells for a minute. Certainly there was much gun emptying and multiple cylinder recharging ongoing that afternoon in/on arms that weren't convenient for recharging in the field on horseback and under fire from the enemy. There was a reason this configuration of Colonel Sam's manufactury went bankrupt. By the time the 4 horse colts models transitioned to the pocket and navy belt models, there were positive & efficient methods of recharging.
Ask our own brother sixgunner Denis Griffin about the paterson design.
Any solid framed fixed-cartridge sixgun is "modern" by comparison. How did Walker's men survive ? Some of them were carrying 4 paterson's colts. Who today carries just one heavy sixgun on a belt without something smaller in a pocket or a boot as a backup ?
"they fired only 150 shots....."
Let this soak into the little grey cells for a minute. Certainly there was much gun emptying and multiple cylinder recharging ongoing that afternoon in/on arms that weren't convenient for recharging in the field on horseback and under fire from the enemy. There was a reason this configuration of Colonel Sam's manufactury went bankrupt. By the time the 4 horse colts models transitioned to the pocket and navy belt models, there were positive & efficient methods of recharging.
Ask our own brother sixgunner Denis Griffin about the paterson design.
Any solid framed fixed-cartridge sixgun is "modern" by comparison. How did Walker's men survive ? Some of them were carrying 4 paterson's colts. Who today carries just one heavy sixgun on a belt without something smaller in a pocket or a boot as a backup ?
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Well the Comanches didn't carry high capacity Glocks, or AR15's really. So I kinda understand wanting to be as well armed as somebody you might get in a gun fight with. But I also know that two things are very important to me; accurate shooting, and a big hole. Those will make up for no practice, and a wimpy sized bullet.Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 3:24 pm It’s funny how carrying a sixgun is now considered irresponsible when folks have been carrying them regularly since Colt started making a holster gun.
It’s like our ancestors were not armed sufficiently to fight the Comanche, to conduct hostilities in the War of Northers Aggression and to defend against bandits (see Patton’s experience in Vera Cruz) and outlaws of every sort for 150 years.
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What amazes me is that the original load was designed to stop horses. And folks think they aren't enough for humans.
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In a more civilized state I had a SBH 7.5" in a shoulder holster, then a G23 became my go to. Then it was my Single Six 44 special. Now I'm in a carry state but I refuse to have my name on a list! That's exactly what this state is doing.
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Carrying what you shoot best is the most sensible thing to do, for sure.
It must also be reliable, and single-action revolvers are notoriously reliable.
It should be chambered in the most powerful cartridge among those available in that 'platform', and 45 Colt is definitely powerful enough.
So it is very hard to fault your choice.
People with smaller hands, or who are very recoil-sensitive, or who have the need to super-conceal their firearm, are going to choose differently.
Carrying what you shoot best is the most sensible thing to do, for sure.
It must also be reliable, and single-action revolvers are notoriously reliable.
It should be chambered in the most powerful cartridge among those available in that 'platform', and 45 Colt is definitely powerful enough.
So it is very hard to fault your choice.
People with smaller hands, or who are very recoil-sensitive, or who have the need to super-conceal their firearm, are going to choose differently.
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Scott, my Simply Rugged SAA "sourdough" holster just arrived. Looks like we'll be carrying the same thing pretty soon. 
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Going through that 4X4 seems enough to kill a horse.
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I carry a single action at times. I learned on a single actions, as a teenager, and I never felt under gunned. But now days, It's usually a Colt Lightweight Commander and has been for self-defense, off of the farm. But if I happen to be packing a single Acton or double action revolver, because I was going to be on the farm and decided to go to town, if I wasn't going to have to change my pants before I go, then I am completely comfortable with a single action.
On another not, several years ago, my daughter had to go to college out of state for a year to complete her PHD, and she was a bit nervous about it, and was going to be living in an apartment in the city, where crime was definitely higher than where she had lived for her undergraduate work. She came to me for training and the loan of a gun. So, we trained to fight with a handgun. I had her shoot everything, from small .380's and various 9mm's both small and larger, and some smaller double action revolvers. She became pretty good and accurate, but had trouble racking slides and also had stovepipe issues with most of my Glocks because she was fairly petite and I guess was weak wristing them, because none of them ever stovepiped on me. And she wasn't really getting along with the double action revolvers that well either. So, i let her shoot some of my single actions. In the end, she chose a Ruger .357 Commemorative Flat Top Vaquero single action revolver with custom elk horn grips. She loved it and kept it until she got her PHD. She also liked it because it was in her mind safer as she knew it wouldn't fire until she cocked it, and she learned to cock it pretty fast.
I was pretty fond of that .357 flat top with the 4-5/8" barrel, and kind of hated to let it go, but what do you do when your daughter says, I'm taking that one. She had one close call with it, when there was robbery right outside her door in the hallway of her apartment building, she heard what was going on, but stayed inside with the door locked, and the Ruger in her hand. Anyway, she returned it to me a few years later and I gave her a Smith and Wesson M&P Compact 9mm which she added a laser to and still has it to this day. But the big single action was her choice in college, and she could have had any gun she wanted from me at the time. And I felt like she was pretty well armed at the time, because I knew she could make it talk and that was with full house 357's.
On another not, several years ago, my daughter had to go to college out of state for a year to complete her PHD, and she was a bit nervous about it, and was going to be living in an apartment in the city, where crime was definitely higher than where she had lived for her undergraduate work. She came to me for training and the loan of a gun. So, we trained to fight with a handgun. I had her shoot everything, from small .380's and various 9mm's both small and larger, and some smaller double action revolvers. She became pretty good and accurate, but had trouble racking slides and also had stovepipe issues with most of my Glocks because she was fairly petite and I guess was weak wristing them, because none of them ever stovepiped on me. And she wasn't really getting along with the double action revolvers that well either. So, i let her shoot some of my single actions. In the end, she chose a Ruger .357 Commemorative Flat Top Vaquero single action revolver with custom elk horn grips. She loved it and kept it until she got her PHD. She also liked it because it was in her mind safer as she knew it wouldn't fire until she cocked it, and she learned to cock it pretty fast.
I was pretty fond of that .357 flat top with the 4-5/8" barrel, and kind of hated to let it go, but what do you do when your daughter says, I'm taking that one. She had one close call with it, when there was robbery right outside her door in the hallway of her apartment building, she heard what was going on, but stayed inside with the door locked, and the Ruger in her hand. Anyway, she returned it to me a few years later and I gave her a Smith and Wesson M&P Compact 9mm which she added a laser to and still has it to this day. But the big single action was her choice in college, and she could have had any gun she wanted from me at the time. And I felt like she was pretty well armed at the time, because I knew she could make it talk and that was with full house 357's.
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I can only say, I trust my 1851s far more than any Paterson. Of the 3 I have, only 2 work with any regularity. the are cumbersome to load with powder & ball, and one must either cap them with the cylinder off the gun. One of the 3, fired once, then locked up tighter'n a drum. I had to removed the cylinder, and put it in the other revolver to fire the other 4 shots. Cleaned it, and shipped it back to the importer to have it fixed. Received it back, tried again. Same thing. If the manufacturer's representative couldn't fix it, I figured to try elsewhere. Took to a local cowboy gunsmith, who accepted the challenge, and after many trial & errors, was able to find the source of the problem and fix it. But, they are cumbersome beast, wickedly hard to cock, but absurdly accurate, it you can handle the 10 lb trigger. And, no, the gunsmith told me not the bring 'em back! Terribly fiddley to assemble the action. And don't lend themselves to traditional means of "slickin' up". I'd like to find someone that knows the 'in-n-outs' of the Paterson. For they are handsome weapons, even if a bit ungainly in use. Certainly gives one an appreciation of the Rangers of the day.
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Seems I'll be in good company.Ysabel Kid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 01, 2026 9:02 pm Scott, my Simply Rugged SAA "sourdough" holster just arrived. Looks like we'll be carrying the same thing pretty soon.![]()

I carry mine IWB most of the time. It's very comfortable. I forget I have it 99% of the time.
Here it was new.

Here it is after a few years. OWB for the sweaty summer mostly. Just to save the gun and leather a bit.

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I catch flak around here because I frequently change my carry gun. I'm quite happy to carry single action and double action revolvers, and all manner of semi autos.
Heck, today I carried two .38 spl snubbies. One left handed and the other right handed. Other than the fact that the two together weight more than what I usually carry as a primary it worked well. Sadly because I was using all of my belt real estate I had to live my little NAA mini home. Actually felt kind of naked with out it.
Heck, today I carried two .38 spl snubbies. One left handed and the other right handed. Other than the fact that the two together weight more than what I usually carry as a primary it worked well. Sadly because I was using all of my belt real estate I had to live my little NAA mini home. Actually felt kind of naked with out it.
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Someone once posted a video link of a sixgunner who was quite practiced at swiftly ejecting empties and used an improvised speedloader of sorts like a tube with a stopper on one end. Could it have been the rev. j.a.t. ?
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I gotta tell you that I never even thought about you frequently changing carry guns.jeepnik wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 12:59 am I catch flak around here because I frequently change my carry gun. I'm quite happy to carry single action and double action revolvers, and all manner of semi autos.
Heck, today I carried two .38 spl snubbies. One left handed and the other right handed. Other than the fact that the two together weight more than what I usually carry as a primary it worked well. Sadly because I was using all of my belt real estate I had to live my little NAA mini home. Actually felt kind of naked with out it.
I do carry a j frame in a pocket regardless of whether I have a sixgun on my hip.
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This discussion comes up from time to time.
There are a lot of better options.
There are a lot of better options.
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I’m not so sure.Safestuffer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 9:25 am This discussion comes up from time to time.
There are a lot of better options.
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I am less experienced carrying a revolver in a leather holster. What is your typical "rule of thumb" when a revolver and holster are not in use on your belt, do you store them separately ?
Seems like my 3" GP100 should spend more time in a lightly used Simply Rugged pancake holster (OWB).
I realize this is a subjective question ?
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Seems like my 3" GP100 should spend more time in a lightly used Simply Rugged pancake holster (OWB).
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I would say that you are correct, under most circumstances, but there are exceptions. A good single action is very safe to keep fully loaded, taking into account whether is has a transfer bar safety or an old model Colt 1873 patent, requiring the hammer be lowered over an empty chamber. Single actions are very reliable, and can be kept loaded for half a lifetime and still be called upon for duty, without the worry of being too dirty or a bad magazine or whatever, or ammo that doesn't feed correctly. They can be chambered in very powerful rounds for protection from dangerous animals as well as people.Safestuffer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 9:25 am This discussion comes up from time to time.
There are a lot of better options.
And some people who are very familiar with the singleaction, but not so much with the semi-auto, just might be better off staying with a singleaction. But it is a thinking man's gun, not a spray and pray wonder nine.
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Freedom Arms Model 97 3 1/2" 45 Colt wearing the 45 acp aux cylinder.
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Nice looking rig. I'm thinking about getting my next in black.Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 8:32 amI gotta tell you that I never even thought about you frequently changing carry guns.jeepnik wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 12:59 am I catch flak around here because I frequently change my carry gun. I'm quite happy to carry single action and double action revolvers, and all manner of semi autos.
Heck, today I carried two .38 spl snubbies. One left handed and the other right handed. Other than the fact that the two together weight more than what I usually carry as a primary it worked well. Sadly because I was using all of my belt real estate I had to live my little NAA mini home. Actually felt kind of naked with out it.
I do carry a j frame in a pocket regardless of whether I have a sixgun on my hip.
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I never store my gun in the holster. I wear my holster and gun from the time I put my pants on in the morning to the time I take them off at night. I have a matching holster for my Single Six, but I don't keep the gun in it.TraderVic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 11:17 am I am less experienced carrying a revolver in a leather holster. What is your typical "rule of thumb" when a revolver and holster are not in use on your belt, do you store them separately ?
Seems like my 3" GP100 should spend more time in a lightly used Simply Rugged pancake holster (OWB).
I realize this is a subjective question ?
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Ive carried Colt and Ruger SAs a fair bit over time. Much of my use is out in the hills, and whenever I wasnt working, Id be carrying in Az and up North. I started with SA 22's, a cheap german one in the early 70s, then a Ruger Single Six, the pre-adjustable sight one, and pre-New Model with transfer bar. The family had some ground out of town along a river with woods all around where I could shoot and hunt squirrels, I did whatever yard or farm work I could to buy 22 shells and eventually wore out the cheap gun (RG from germany I believe) and later destroyed it because it was so badly worn out. Centerfire SAs followed, a 357 blackhawk, then a New Model after they came out, a year or two later a Super, I think I was 14 or 15 when I got my first Super. I had a 357 Blackhawk with me when camping alone in NM and Utah, I think I had my 14th birthday alone in the Wasatch range. I had a relative that took me around, dropped me off, came back a few days later, and we went somewhere else. It was a glorious time for a kid.
I did really want a Colt copy (Uberti) in 357 for fun shooting, the smaller frame made a much trimmer gun, actually as much difference as a K to N frame smith in overall size of frame and all. Once I had the 357 cimarron/Uberti, I decided to get a 45, which became my instant favorite general carry gun. I dont have a good concealment holster, the normal right side high ride type dont work with my bum shoulder. I have a good old style belt holster but the damaged body isnt liking carrying it with a cartridge belt on. a K frame Lawrence shoulder holster has been the alternative. I carry 7 rds spare in the back pocket, one to top it off if desired, and a full reload, a few more in a vest pocket if out farther than the yard, and generally have a carbine either in the vehicle or in hand when dog walking. I have little trepidation of its ability on anything less than grizzlies, which are close by. Loads are 8 1/2 grs old unique, the Keith 452424, similar cast loads ran 925 fps in a Ruger.
A g-19 I have has had several magazines fail. The original factory non-drop free mags both cratered after using the gun about 8 years maybe. The gun is an early 2nd gen and looked unfired when I got it in 06. The mags just stopped pushing rounds up to feed. Worked fine one time I was out shooting it, didnt work the next. Some 10-12 years later 6 more factory mags I checked are super weak springs. I pulled those, and have basically sidelined the gun, I just dont trust it any more. Maybe if one likes tinkering with them they are fine, or dont load the mags and leave them 10-15 years and expect them to work, but other mags Ive done that with have worked fine, namely colt 1911 and military and Colt aluminum AR mags.
The couple of plate shoots Ive done, I shot as good score with the ruger 45 as with a Smith 19 with 38s in it, and better than with a 1911. They were 5 and 6 plate shoots. there was little danger Id win, but I was in the top 1/3. Stunning to watch guys run through several mags of auto pistol ammo and not get 5 or 6 plates down, I usually had an extra round on the 5 plate. Loads were 250 gr cast at 925 fps.
Ive never ever been able to shoot an auto pistol as well as a revolver, DA or SA. So is shooting better or reloading faster more important? Medium size bullets that are OK in defensive use or large ones capable of hammering a range bull, black bear, road hit elk, or 350 lb psycho decisively?
I have a nice old 1911, and just about zero interest in shooting it any more.
I did really want a Colt copy (Uberti) in 357 for fun shooting, the smaller frame made a much trimmer gun, actually as much difference as a K to N frame smith in overall size of frame and all. Once I had the 357 cimarron/Uberti, I decided to get a 45, which became my instant favorite general carry gun. I dont have a good concealment holster, the normal right side high ride type dont work with my bum shoulder. I have a good old style belt holster but the damaged body isnt liking carrying it with a cartridge belt on. a K frame Lawrence shoulder holster has been the alternative. I carry 7 rds spare in the back pocket, one to top it off if desired, and a full reload, a few more in a vest pocket if out farther than the yard, and generally have a carbine either in the vehicle or in hand when dog walking. I have little trepidation of its ability on anything less than grizzlies, which are close by. Loads are 8 1/2 grs old unique, the Keith 452424, similar cast loads ran 925 fps in a Ruger.
A g-19 I have has had several magazines fail. The original factory non-drop free mags both cratered after using the gun about 8 years maybe. The gun is an early 2nd gen and looked unfired when I got it in 06. The mags just stopped pushing rounds up to feed. Worked fine one time I was out shooting it, didnt work the next. Some 10-12 years later 6 more factory mags I checked are super weak springs. I pulled those, and have basically sidelined the gun, I just dont trust it any more. Maybe if one likes tinkering with them they are fine, or dont load the mags and leave them 10-15 years and expect them to work, but other mags Ive done that with have worked fine, namely colt 1911 and military and Colt aluminum AR mags.
The couple of plate shoots Ive done, I shot as good score with the ruger 45 as with a Smith 19 with 38s in it, and better than with a 1911. They were 5 and 6 plate shoots. there was little danger Id win, but I was in the top 1/3. Stunning to watch guys run through several mags of auto pistol ammo and not get 5 or 6 plates down, I usually had an extra round on the 5 plate. Loads were 250 gr cast at 925 fps.
Ive never ever been able to shoot an auto pistol as well as a revolver, DA or SA. So is shooting better or reloading faster more important? Medium size bullets that are OK in defensive use or large ones capable of hammering a range bull, black bear, road hit elk, or 350 lb psycho decisively?
I have a nice old 1911, and just about zero interest in shooting it any more.
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Re: Carrying a SAA revolver
The only exception to not storing a handgun in a holster is when the holster is new. I recently bought a Simply Rugged Cuda for my AMT .45 Backup. The pistol has been in the holster for about a week. But I work with it, drawing and holstering, for an hour or so a day. It's just about "broke in". Then the holster will go in the cabinet with the rest of them.
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Every military and police force on earth are sure. Been a while since a SA was an issued sidearm. Must be for a reason.Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 10:31 amI’m not so sure.Safestuffer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 02, 2026 9:25 am This discussion comes up from time to time.
There are a lot of better options.
Not worth arguing about though. The consequences for whatever equipment you train with and carry, good or bad, are entirely on you and those who depend on you.
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So you are judging on whether a sidearm is currently issued?
I didn’t carry an issued handgun for the majority of my police career. There are lots of great guns that are simply too expensive to be issued by any government agency.
I didn’t carry an issued handgun for the majority of my police career. There are lots of great guns that are simply too expensive to be issued by any government agency.
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I just remembered one time, about 40 years ago, when I was at a shooting match, and we had an after shoot jackpot, where we were shooting bowling pins off of a table. The pins were heavy already full of lead from be shot a lot, and winners were almost exclusively shooting 1911's including myself, but I kept getting edged out by a couple of guns who had a slightly faster time to clear the table of the five pins. They had to be shot and blown completely off of the table. No one was clearing the table with one magazine, everyone had to reload and shoot at least a couple of extra rounds to clear the table.
I knew the pins would or could be hard to knock off of the table, so I brought another gun that day just in case. I brought a 7.5 inch Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 mag, and some fairly stout reloads. So, I shot it again and cleared the table with one cylinder full and had one of the fastest times of the day. Just saying, don't count the single action guy out, until you have seen him shoot.
I knew the pins would or could be hard to knock off of the table, so I brought another gun that day just in case. I brought a 7.5 inch Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 mag, and some fairly stout reloads. So, I shot it again and cleared the table with one cylinder full and had one of the fastest times of the day. Just saying, don't count the single action guy out, until you have seen him shoot.
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I would think that military and police needs would be quite different than civilian self defense needs for several reasons:
The first would be logistics and supply. If you are equipping a police force they should all have compatible if not identical firearms, which need to be suitable for use with a variety of levels of expertise and training even though there are obvious attempts to make that uniform. The firearms also need to be usable by those with the smallest hands. Finally police need to use firearms with a power level and capacity and accuracy suitable for majority of encounters they may have, and even taking into account the potential publicity involved as the media tries to demonize the police.
On the other hand the individual citizen need not concern himself or herself with compatibility issues, other than perhaps with another family member, and they can pick a firearm that either requires little to no training to be reasonably proficient, or may choose a firearm that has a very difficult and unique manual of arms, if they patient and persistent enough to become proficient with it. And as far as power level and capacity, although the media likes to demonize citizens as well as police, there may be a little more leeway. Finally, situations a civilian is likely to find themselves dealing with, particularly in rural areas where there may be livestock or bears to deal with, demand quite a different type of firearm then most law enforcement would need.
Ideally every individual would carry the firearm they were the most proficient and confident with, whether it's a single shot 22 long rifle Derringer, or a 300 Blackout SBR. I'm pretty sure my best concealed carry firearm is something like the Beretta Centurion in 9mm, although I at one time carried a Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 Magnum (Not because I wanted the power, but it happened to be the only centered fire handgun I owned at the time). But I had a friend who carried a Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Colt for over 40 years, and probably shot several thousand rounds a year during that entire time. I think the worst thing that would happen to him if he came into a gunfight would be for him to ditch that gun for a 'better' one such as a 1911 or a Glock or a Beretta or any other service pistol.
Would that mean that my advice to someone starting out with firearms would be that they should carry a Blackhawk...??? Definitely not, because that's not a gun ideal for new shooter, or even the average experienced shooter.
A similar situation happens with rifles. I had a neighbor who had a Ruger M77 in 7mm Mauser, and he was so experienced with that rifle that he could head shoot a squirrel at 100 yards and salvage the meat, and I saw him harvest at close to 400 yards with it. There were definitely better rifle choices for both of those chores, But that really didn't mean much to him because he was simply doing what worked for him, rather than what everyone said was best.
I would think that military and police needs would be quite different than civilian self defense needs for several reasons:
The first would be logistics and supply. If you are equipping a police force they should all have compatible if not identical firearms, which need to be suitable for use with a variety of levels of expertise and training even though there are obvious attempts to make that uniform. The firearms also need to be usable by those with the smallest hands. Finally police need to use firearms with a power level and capacity and accuracy suitable for majority of encounters they may have, and even taking into account the potential publicity involved as the media tries to demonize the police.
On the other hand the individual citizen need not concern himself or herself with compatibility issues, other than perhaps with another family member, and they can pick a firearm that either requires little to no training to be reasonably proficient, or may choose a firearm that has a very difficult and unique manual of arms, if they patient and persistent enough to become proficient with it. And as far as power level and capacity, although the media likes to demonize citizens as well as police, there may be a little more leeway. Finally, situations a civilian is likely to find themselves dealing with, particularly in rural areas where there may be livestock or bears to deal with, demand quite a different type of firearm then most law enforcement would need.
Ideally every individual would carry the firearm they were the most proficient and confident with, whether it's a single shot 22 long rifle Derringer, or a 300 Blackout SBR. I'm pretty sure my best concealed carry firearm is something like the Beretta Centurion in 9mm, although I at one time carried a Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 Magnum (Not because I wanted the power, but it happened to be the only centered fire handgun I owned at the time). But I had a friend who carried a Ruger Blackhawk in 45 Colt for over 40 years, and probably shot several thousand rounds a year during that entire time. I think the worst thing that would happen to him if he came into a gunfight would be for him to ditch that gun for a 'better' one such as a 1911 or a Glock or a Beretta or any other service pistol.
Would that mean that my advice to someone starting out with firearms would be that they should carry a Blackhawk...??? Definitely not, because that's not a gun ideal for new shooter, or even the average experienced shooter.
A similar situation happens with rifles. I had a neighbor who had a Ruger M77 in 7mm Mauser, and he was so experienced with that rifle that he could head shoot a squirrel at 100 yards and salvage the meat, and I saw him harvest at close to 400 yards with it. There were definitely better rifle choices for both of those chores, But that really didn't mean much to him because he was simply doing what worked for him, rather than what everyone said was best.
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Re: Carrying a SAA revolver
Well said doctor! "The Best" as far as I am concerned is what I can use without thinking about it. What I have carried and shot and dry-fired ultra-thousands of times until I can pull and hit with it without consciously thinking about it ... load and unload without looking at it ... just like most people can use a fork for eating and not accidentally stick themselves in the eye or their gums. 
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I saw a Colt Sheriffs Model that was ordered by the San Antonio Police Department in 1923 and issued to a police officer here. That’s over 100 hundred years ago now.
So perhaps I am behind the times. I’ve been told that before and I’m good with it.
So perhaps I am behind the times. I’ve been told that before and I’m good with it.
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I’ll have to second, third….and fourth the idea of carrying what your comfortable with and shoot well! If it’s not comfortable you won’t carry it….if you can’t shoot it well….you may not hit where you want! That leads to my next part…..over penetration is bad…..if you shoot a threat and the bullet passes through…..it goes somewhere……possibly into an unintended innocent bystander! The human body isn’t a tough target…..when hit in the right places….key word….right places! A 45 slug in the leg will probably not stop a threat as well as a 38+p to the melon. If you’re comfortable with a SAA and shoot it well I see no reason not to carry it……I love my Colt SAA and carry it often on my land…..but in town I go with my 1911 commander in 45 acp…..I shoot the 1911 well and hit what I aim at. Plus the target is different in town than on my property. In town I like the 45acp for it’s stopping power on a human threat…..on my land I prefer the penetration on 4 legged critter…blackies, hogs and dogs running wild….and I usually don’t have potential collateral damage to worry about!
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You know, I carried a 1911 for most of my police career. Shot 1911s at Gunsite and Thunder Ranch. Competed in IPSC for years with a 1911.
But today, I’m more sure about good hits quickly with a SAA. And only slightly less confident up close with a J Frame.
I still shoot the 1911 and I own Sigs and Glocks. But I feel good with an old fashioned sixgun in my hand.
But today, I’m more sure about good hits quickly with a SAA. And only slightly less confident up close with a J Frame.
I still shoot the 1911 and I own Sigs and Glocks. But I feel good with an old fashioned sixgun in my hand.
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Appreciate all the contributors to this thread. It's wonderful thinking about carrying single-action revolvers, especially with the original Colt grip shape. I've enjoyed the wonderful photos of revolvers as well as the leather. I wish I had spent more time with Colt SAA clones instead of 1911s, although my respect for John Browning knows no bounds. I am going to get quiet and try to channel my great-grandfather who carried and used an SAA very, very seriously in Texas.
Thanks for starting it Scott.
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I carry a semiauto most of the time. Size and weight are the primary factors. Can I hit with a revolver? Quite well. Yes, most revolver cartridges are enough.
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I love the holster wear on my Blackhawk after carrying it full time 4-5 years.


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That’s a great looking sixgun!LeverGunner wrote: ↑Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:19 pm I love the holster wear on my Blackhawk after carrying it full time 4-5 years.
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The single action sixgun is my favorite carry gun. When we lived in Arizona I carried my 7 1/2" Ruger .45 Colt a lot as well as my 7 1/2" 454 Freedom Arms. My favorite carry gun was my 4 3/4" .45 Colt. It rode well when in the saddle.
These days I carry the old model flattop .357 quite a bit, though around the home place it is usually the Ruger Shopkeeper Bearcat.
And lately, I have been carrying the Model 10 S&W. I have autoloaders but a good sixgun fits me better and I just enjoy them more.
These days I carry the old model flattop .357 quite a bit, though around the home place it is usually the Ruger Shopkeeper Bearcat.
And lately, I have been carrying the Model 10 S&W. I have autoloaders but a good sixgun fits me better and I just enjoy them more.
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Thank you very much!Scott Tschirhart wrote: ↑Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:52 pmThat’s a great looking sixgun!LeverGunner wrote: ↑Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:19 pm I love the holster wear on my Blackhawk after carrying it full time 4-5 years.
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Darn it Jim. I haven't carried a Model 10 in months. Guess what I'll have on tomorrow.JimT wrote: ↑Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:41 pm The single action sixgun is my favorite carry gun. When we lived in Arizona I carried my 7 1/2" Ruger .45 Colt a lot as well as my 7 1/2" 454 Freedom Arms. My favorite carry gun was my 4 3/4" .45 Colt. It rode well when in the saddle.
These days I carry the old model flattop .357 quite a bit, though around the home place it is usually the Ruger Shopkeeper Bearcat.
And lately, I have been carrying the Model 10 S&W. I have autoloaders but a good sixgun fits me better and I just enjoy them more.
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