Newest obsession. 1858 Remington

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Newest obsession. 1858 Remington

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I’ve had the Old Army for a few years. It’s set up with a Howell .45ACP conversion cylinder and a Belt Mountain base pin.
It’s been a great shooter and a lot of fun!

The revolver on the bottom is a Beretta-Pietta 1858 that came with the original BP cylinder and a Howell .45 ACP five shot conversion.
It was going cheap and I couldn’t resist.
Just as that auction was ending Mr. Taffin’s BP revolvers came up for sale on gunbroker and being such an admirer of his work I had to take a shot.
This one is an Armi San Marco that was worked over by the Gunsmith
that JimT had mentioned. The action is very smooth and the drift style front sight is a nice bonus.
Looking forward to a range trip!

jb 8)
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Hi Jason -

The 1858 Remington's are growing on me. I just love the Colt cap & ball revolvers, from an aesthetics standpoint, but the Remington was a better design. IIRC, Beretta bought Uberti in 2000, not Pietta. The latter is still a stand-alone company, IIRC, :)
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Jason, we simply must have a like button here!
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My Dad had both Colt and Remington originals. The Colt open-top percussion guns were better fighting guns as they did not tie up from fouling as quickly as the solid-frame Remingtons. The Remingtons seemed more accurate than the Colts, though they all were a lot better than most people today believe. The Remington solved the problem of the caps falling into the action of the pistol. Colts can be converted to that type of hammer and recoil plate, but it is quite a bit of work. Well worth it if you shoot matches.
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Ysabel Kid wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:36 pm Hi Jason -

The 1858 Remington's are growing on me. I just love the Colt cap & ball revolvers, from an aesthetics standpoint, but the Remington was a better design. IIRC, Beretta bought Uberti in 2000, not Pietta. The latter is still a stand-alone company, IIRC, :)
That’s what I thought, but when the shop that transferred it for me typed the SN# into their computer it came up Beretta/Pietta. Not that it really matters but I’ll see what I can find out about it.
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2ndovc wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 2:26 pm I’ve had the Old Army for a few years. It’s set up with a Howell .45ACP conversion cylinder and a Belt Mountain base pin.
It’s been a great shooter and a lot of fun!

The revolver on the bottom is a Beretta-Pietta 1858 that came with the original BP cylinder and a Howell .45 ACP five shot conversion.
It was going cheap and I couldn’t resist.
Just as that auction was ending Mr. Taffin’s BP revolvers came up for sale on gunbroker and being such an admirer of his work I had to take a shot.
This one is an Armi San Marco that was worked over by the Gunsmith
that JimT had mentioned. The action is very smooth and the drift style front sight is a nice bonus.
Looking forward to a range trip!

jb 8)

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I bought 1858 Remington in 1987 and shot it in matches for a year. It would foul and bind up quite regularly, sad to say, I could never predict when. I could never find a solution to the 1858 getting fouled out after only a cylinder or two, except for constant tear-down and cleaning. Not that's a onerous task, but is a time consuming one. Plus, the ergonomics of the 1858 varies quite a bit from the Colt, and the Remington never felt as comfortable... so I found a good trade... A pair of El Paso Saddlery "1849 California" holsters to fit the my 1851s.
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To be quite honest, the revolvers with the conversion cylinders will get more use. I enjoy black powder, but don’t always have the time for it.

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2ndovc wrote: Sat Oct 11, 2025 2:25 pm To be quite honest, the revolvers with the conversion cylinders will get more use. I enjoy black powder, but don’t always have the time for it.

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This is one I want.
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Pat C wrote: Sat Oct 11, 2025 9:51 pm This is one I want.
Pat,
That’s really sharp! Who makes it?

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2ndovc wrote: Sun Oct 12, 2025 4:48 am
Pat C wrote: Sat Oct 11, 2025 9:51 pm This is one I want.
Pat,
That’s really sharp! Who makes it?

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Stainless Pietta new model sheriff 1858 with Howell 45 LC stainless conversion cylinder.
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Cool!

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My great grandfather carried a brace of 1858 Remingtons during the Civil War.
I bought a Pietta reproduction just to have a likeness of the pistols he carried then.
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Back in the 1980's I bought an imported 1858 Remington (Italian reproduction) and shot it quite a bit. My Dad had original Civil War Remingtons when I was a kid. He had a gunsmith shop and converted some of them to .22 rimfire. People were not real interested in black powder guns in those days. He bought a shipment of what was then non-collectible Remingtons. Some had missing parts, some had cracked cylinders etc. He paid $10 each for them. This one in the photo was one he shot a lot.
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The one I bought was different from the original Remingtons in that the bore on the import was .445" instead of .457" and had standard twist rifling instead of the gain twist like the originals. Eventually I took off the front sight and soldered on a S&W Patridge front sight. Then I milled out the rear sight groove, making it square and wider. I removed the barrel and reamed a 3" long throat in it that went from .458" down to the bore size. Then I reamed the chambers so I could seat a .460" ball.

Squeezing the bullet down increased the muzzle velocity by quite a lot. 200 to 300 fps depending on the load. Accuracy was much improved. I hunted with this gun and killed game with it. I have posted this photo before .. probably more than several times. :D
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Very cool, Jim. I always enjoy seeing the picture of you as a kid. :D
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Ysabel Kid wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:29 pm Very cool, Jim. I always enjoy seeing the picture of you as a kid. :D
THANKS. I look in the mirror and wonder who that is!
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JimT wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:52 pm
Ysabel Kid wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:29 pm Very cool, Jim. I always enjoy seeing the picture of you as a kid. :D
THANKS. I look in the mirror and wonder who that is!
Me too! :lol:
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