the flowery Victorian language aside, my love, what also struck me was he hit every data point for confessing, like a bad film noir.earlmck wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:30 am Now they have released a batch of texts between Robinson and his boyfriend. Pretty damning.
But none of my grandkids/great-grandkids would text anything like that kind of language. Sounds more like composed by a 40-yr old LEO to me.
We're getting the 'shroom treatment again. And again. And again....
A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
"I'll tell you what living is. You get up when you feel like it. You fry yourself some eggs. You see what kind of a day it is."
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
We are being lied to. Has anyone seen or heard of the autopsy report being released?
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
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I’m not that sentimental, and like to think I’m a logic-driven gun-totin’ badass hybrid of Spock and the Terminator, but I cried watching the ‘Adele tribute song to Charlie Kirk’. Almost had to turn in my man-card and become a limpwrist for crying just due to hearing a sentimental (and I think AI-generated no less) song, but thankfully towards the end, my dwindling old-man-level of testosterone kicked in and I did indeed add a bit of anger to the sadness.
If I were a peace-loving, kind, inclusive, tolerant, progressive ‘liberal’ Democrat I’d go out and kill random conservatives, or maybe little kids, because that’s what that self-anointed bunch of ‘morally superior intellectuals’ tends to do, but instead I’m a hate-filled, gun-totin’, mean-spirited, racist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, greedy capitalist, climate-denying, violent Nazi FASCIST (and I know because the liberals are smart and they call me all those things), so instead I’ll pray for peace, give thanks to God that Charlie’s life may wind up as having been lost in the service of a truly greater cause of world peace, by revealing to the would the nature of the good-vs-evil struggle going on, and to help shift the battle from baseball bats, bombs, and bullets, to civil dialogue and honest elections.
I still get teary-eyed though…just at the thought if someone who surely had flaws, but was likely a better person than I am, senselessly murdered in front of his family.
We have the Soap box, which Charlie was so great at, the Ballot box, where we assign our political power to elected representatives after hearing out those on the soap box, the Jury box, where we have final say and veto if our representatives try to misuse the law against us, and as the last resort, the Cartridge box, which is the Ctrl-Alt-Delete reset button for use only if all else fails, because using that destroys whatever we were working on that was good, in the hopes of also de-virusing the system. It works way better on computers than in societies.
The Democrats seem intent on reversing the boxes: they unhesitatingly use the Cartridge box, as we’ve seen the past few decades. They have twisted the Jury box by using corrupt judges to effectively legislate, and they have clearly defrauded the Ballot box so that we have illegitimate results. Now they are coming after even the Soap box by killing anyone who stands up to speak.
I can think of no better example of ‘asymmetric warfare’ than the way today’s Democrats accept violence as a means to social change.
There ARE crazy violent people ‘on both sides’, but I think many more on the left. The greater concern is that while the overwhelming majority of conservatives and libertarians vehemently oppose violence, and call it out even if coming from their own ranks, the majority of Democrats today may not commit the violence directly, but they will fund it, and even if they are smart enough not to openly cheer it on, the rank-and-file Democrats do indeed endorse violence - either with their denial it is even a problem, or their quiet lack of opposition to such violence, except in the rare case it comes from their opponents. They equivocate with a virtue-signaling ‘both sides’ condemnation, at best.
Similarly, liberals and Democrats accuse ‘both sides’ of living in echo-chambers, when the reality is that it would be almost impossible for a conservative to only hear conservative opinions, given the overwhelming left lean of mainstream media, academia, and entertainment. In contrast, liberal think that by seeing a quote on CNN or TikTok that is attributed to something from Fox News, that by exposing themselves to that, somehow they have ‘heard both sides’. If they had the slightest degree of self-awareness or introspection, they’d see how ridiculous they look to those outside their bubble.
Liberals are truly living in delusional bubble-land, where all they see is a reflection of themselves. Evidently that’s why they are always accusing everyone else of being hateful and violent and lying and cheating. It’s because that’s what they see when they look at the reflection of themselves in the bubble.
Part of the problem IS the ‘Republicans’ - for several generations now, we have failed to confront, even gently, the stupidity, lack of logic, or even the outright lies, coming from the Left. We did it partly out of kindness, just as one might decide not to argue with someone who has Alzheimer dementia, or someone who is mentally handicapped; why embarrass them if you can avoid it, plus you won’t convince them their delusion is not real. We also did it partly for the sake of the OTHER folks there at the holiday get-together, or classroom; why disrupt their peace by making them be audience to a verbal wrestling match, especially when one competitor has the mental equivalent of muscular dystrophy…? It just seems cruel to make a child confront the reality that Santa Claus is not a real person, and confronting a liberal with logic or facts (…or history or math or economics or science….or reality…) is pretty much the same thing.
I’m not that sentimental, and like to think I’m a logic-driven gun-totin’ badass hybrid of Spock and the Terminator, but I cried watching the ‘Adele tribute song to Charlie Kirk’. Almost had to turn in my man-card and become a limpwrist for crying just due to hearing a sentimental (and I think AI-generated no less) song, but thankfully towards the end, my dwindling old-man-level of testosterone kicked in and I did indeed add a bit of anger to the sadness.
If I were a peace-loving, kind, inclusive, tolerant, progressive ‘liberal’ Democrat I’d go out and kill random conservatives, or maybe little kids, because that’s what that self-anointed bunch of ‘morally superior intellectuals’ tends to do, but instead I’m a hate-filled, gun-totin’, mean-spirited, racist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, greedy capitalist, climate-denying, violent Nazi FASCIST (and I know because the liberals are smart and they call me all those things), so instead I’ll pray for peace, give thanks to God that Charlie’s life may wind up as having been lost in the service of a truly greater cause of world peace, by revealing to the would the nature of the good-vs-evil struggle going on, and to help shift the battle from baseball bats, bombs, and bullets, to civil dialogue and honest elections.
I still get teary-eyed though…just at the thought if someone who surely had flaws, but was likely a better person than I am, senselessly murdered in front of his family.
We have the Soap box, which Charlie was so great at, the Ballot box, where we assign our political power to elected representatives after hearing out those on the soap box, the Jury box, where we have final say and veto if our representatives try to misuse the law against us, and as the last resort, the Cartridge box, which is the Ctrl-Alt-Delete reset button for use only if all else fails, because using that destroys whatever we were working on that was good, in the hopes of also de-virusing the system. It works way better on computers than in societies.
The Democrats seem intent on reversing the boxes: they unhesitatingly use the Cartridge box, as we’ve seen the past few decades. They have twisted the Jury box by using corrupt judges to effectively legislate, and they have clearly defrauded the Ballot box so that we have illegitimate results. Now they are coming after even the Soap box by killing anyone who stands up to speak.
I can think of no better example of ‘asymmetric warfare’ than the way today’s Democrats accept violence as a means to social change.
There ARE crazy violent people ‘on both sides’, but I think many more on the left. The greater concern is that while the overwhelming majority of conservatives and libertarians vehemently oppose violence, and call it out even if coming from their own ranks, the majority of Democrats today may not commit the violence directly, but they will fund it, and even if they are smart enough not to openly cheer it on, the rank-and-file Democrats do indeed endorse violence - either with their denial it is even a problem, or their quiet lack of opposition to such violence, except in the rare case it comes from their opponents. They equivocate with a virtue-signaling ‘both sides’ condemnation, at best.
Similarly, liberals and Democrats accuse ‘both sides’ of living in echo-chambers, when the reality is that it would be almost impossible for a conservative to only hear conservative opinions, given the overwhelming left lean of mainstream media, academia, and entertainment. In contrast, liberal think that by seeing a quote on CNN or TikTok that is attributed to something from Fox News, that by exposing themselves to that, somehow they have ‘heard both sides’. If they had the slightest degree of self-awareness or introspection, they’d see how ridiculous they look to those outside their bubble.
Liberals are truly living in delusional bubble-land, where all they see is a reflection of themselves. Evidently that’s why they are always accusing everyone else of being hateful and violent and lying and cheating. It’s because that’s what they see when they look at the reflection of themselves in the bubble.
Part of the problem IS the ‘Republicans’ - for several generations now, we have failed to confront, even gently, the stupidity, lack of logic, or even the outright lies, coming from the Left. We did it partly out of kindness, just as one might decide not to argue with someone who has Alzheimer dementia, or someone who is mentally handicapped; why embarrass them if you can avoid it, plus you won’t convince them their delusion is not real. We also did it partly for the sake of the OTHER folks there at the holiday get-together, or classroom; why disrupt their peace by making them be audience to a verbal wrestling match, especially when one competitor has the mental equivalent of muscular dystrophy…? It just seems cruel to make a child confront the reality that Santa Claus is not a real person, and confronting a liberal with logic or facts (…or history or math or economics or science….or reality…) is pretty much the same thing.
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
I agree, but history does not. The weaker ideology will always attack the better one. It can't stand up to the comparison. A good example is the Soviet Union. We could coexist with them as long as they didn't hurt our economy. But the only way they could coexist with the west is by keeping their people behind walls. Otherwise they would have voted with their feet. The superior competing example could not be tolerated. Thus they looked to destabilize the west at every opportunity.
Failed ideologies will always attack the superior ideology. And leftism in every form is a failed ideology. Why? If you must use force to get your way, your way sucks.
Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
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YK I fear you are correct.
No matter how many times it is beaten down with history and facts and logic, socialism puts on a new costume, adopt a new name, and resurfaces. We cycle through the stages of strong citizens, creating good times, creating weak citizens, creating bad times, over and over.
As long as we have young, naïve people to be followers, and older, dishonest people to take advantage of them, this will happen.
Look at the way so many of the young college students view two parallel situations:
If a conservative says something that upsets a liberal, and consequence is that a liberal kills the conservative, the liberal is labeled a ‘hero’, just enforcing ‘consequences’…
If a liberal celebrates the murder of someone because they don’t like what they said, and the consequence is that a conservative won’t patronize their business, the conservative is labeled a ‘fascist’, committing a ‘violent’ act…
I keep coming back to feeling that although the act itself was a particularly horrific crime, that the crime that is a little worse is when a sizable percentage of so-called ‘progressive’ liberals (you know, the ‘tolerant’ and ‘inclusive, and ‘peaceful’ ones
) celebrated, and the crime that is a LOT worse is the tens of millions of people who would consider themselves ordinary Democrats, who didn’t openly celebrate because they are too savvy to do that in public, but instead gave lip service to criticizing the murder, being sure to sprinkle in their equivocating about ‘both sides’, but not speaking out and holding accountable their fellow Democrats, who advocate even more violence, are attached endorsing violence. Ironically, most of them push for gun control because they actually consider themselves ‘against violence’.
I think I’ll start a campaign to raise money to donate hearing protectors for liberals, because the cognitive dissonance they must constantly suffer from has to be deafening.
However, a nice upbeat take on it from this guy is kind of how I feel too, and it gives me hope:
https://youtube.com/shorts/_4aOz45gzWE
YK I fear you are correct.
No matter how many times it is beaten down with history and facts and logic, socialism puts on a new costume, adopt a new name, and resurfaces. We cycle through the stages of strong citizens, creating good times, creating weak citizens, creating bad times, over and over.
As long as we have young, naïve people to be followers, and older, dishonest people to take advantage of them, this will happen.
Look at the way so many of the young college students view two parallel situations:
If a conservative says something that upsets a liberal, and consequence is that a liberal kills the conservative, the liberal is labeled a ‘hero’, just enforcing ‘consequences’…
If a liberal celebrates the murder of someone because they don’t like what they said, and the consequence is that a conservative won’t patronize their business, the conservative is labeled a ‘fascist’, committing a ‘violent’ act…
I keep coming back to feeling that although the act itself was a particularly horrific crime, that the crime that is a little worse is when a sizable percentage of so-called ‘progressive’ liberals (you know, the ‘tolerant’ and ‘inclusive, and ‘peaceful’ ones
) celebrated, and the crime that is a LOT worse is the tens of millions of people who would consider themselves ordinary Democrats, who didn’t openly celebrate because they are too savvy to do that in public, but instead gave lip service to criticizing the murder, being sure to sprinkle in their equivocating about ‘both sides’, but not speaking out and holding accountable their fellow Democrats, who advocate even more violence, are attached endorsing violence. Ironically, most of them push for gun control because they actually consider themselves ‘against violence’.I think I’ll start a campaign to raise money to donate hearing protectors for liberals, because the cognitive dissonance they must constantly suffer from has to be deafening.
However, a nice upbeat take on it from this guy is kind of how I feel too, and it gives me hope:
https://youtube.com/shorts/_4aOz45gzWE
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
ok, now Candace Owens reported she has seen rear-camera footage and there was no blood, and no exit wound.
So, an announcement was put out by Charlie's team that they checked with the coroner, who said the bullet DID NOT EXIT.
A 30-06 bullet from 200 yards, hit him on the side of the neck (where there is no spine) and didn't exit?
The coroner called it "miraculous."
Well, it's 9 am Sunday, I predict that Charlie will rise from the dead today...
So, an announcement was put out by Charlie's team that they checked with the coroner, who said the bullet DID NOT EXIT.
A 30-06 bullet from 200 yards, hit him on the side of the neck (where there is no spine) and didn't exit?
The coroner called it "miraculous."
Well, it's 9 am Sunday, I predict that Charlie will rise from the dead today...
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
here's the statement:
I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know.
I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital…
He said the bullet “absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I’ve seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc.”
But it didn’t go through. Charlie’s body stopped it.
I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students, and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent, and he replied:
“It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed.”
“His bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he’s like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too.”
In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin.
Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him.
Remarkable. Miraculous.
https://x.com/AndrewKolvet/status/1969551427648569633
I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know.
I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital…
He said the bullet “absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I’ve seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc.”
But it didn’t go through. Charlie’s body stopped it.
I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students, and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent, and he replied:
“It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed.”
“His bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he’s like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too.”
In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin.
Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him.
Remarkable. Miraculous.
https://x.com/AndrewKolvet/status/1969551427648569633
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
Yep -- one of those miracles. I'll bet that bullet is in good enough shape they can match it to the very gun they found wrapped in a towel in the bushes...
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
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I think these two videos do raise sensible concerns.
https://youtu.be/o2F1BatlSBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlqkAMqQJY
It seems like at some point after the investigation is done, full details should clarify things.
Certainly after seeing MLK, JFK, and the Tate murders, among many others, it seems reasonable to suspect a deeper layer of intrigue.
BUT IF YOU'RE GETTING INTRIGUE-FATIGUE..... and need a bit of a smile....
The Babylon Bee always brings a smile, even in the worst of times - https://babylonbee.com/news/people-okay ... ncellation
and https://babylonbee.com/news/this-is-a-b ... ille-shot-
I think these two videos do raise sensible concerns.
https://youtu.be/o2F1BatlSBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKlqkAMqQJY
It seems like at some point after the investigation is done, full details should clarify things.
Certainly after seeing MLK, JFK, and the Tate murders, among many others, it seems reasonable to suspect a deeper layer of intrigue.
BUT IF YOU'RE GETTING INTRIGUE-FATIGUE..... and need a bit of a smile....
The Babylon Bee always brings a smile, even in the worst of times - https://babylonbee.com/news/people-okay ... ncellation
and https://babylonbee.com/news/this-is-a-b ... ille-shot-
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
New texts surface in the murder of Charlie Kirk:
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1968683565249421502
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1968683565249421502
"I'll tell you what living is. You get up when you feel like it. You fry yourself some eggs. You see what kind of a day it is."
Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
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This person named Claire Guinan published a story about putting a 'curse' on Kirk, bought on 'Etsy' and published about in 'Jezebel'...
Here's the curse story - https://web.archive.org/web/20250908211 ... arlie-kirk
Here's Megyn Kelly discussing it - https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/charl ... r-AA1Nacka
There are some sick and dangerous people out there - 99% seem to be on the 'progressive' left...
However I think in this case, her desire to make Kirk a laughing-stock and fail kinda backfired - he's likely to go down as one of the most influencial people of the 21st Century, and in his martyrdom (how can you call it anything else?) his power grew where the spell-caster wanted it to wither.
This person named Claire Guinan published a story about putting a 'curse' on Kirk, bought on 'Etsy' and published about in 'Jezebel'...
Here's the curse story - https://web.archive.org/web/20250908211 ... arlie-kirk
Here's Megyn Kelly discussing it - https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/charl ... r-AA1Nacka
There are some sick and dangerous people out there - 99% seem to be on the 'progressive' left...
However I think in this case, her desire to make Kirk a laughing-stock and fail kinda backfired - he's likely to go down as one of the most influencial people of the 21st Century, and in his martyrdom (how can you call it anything else?) his power grew where the spell-caster wanted it to wither.
It's 2025 - "Cutesy Time is OVER....!" [Dan Bongino]