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What about influenza...?

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https://medium.com/illumination-curated ... fd1fa5e909

What the author says seems to be the most plausible explanation I've seen so far.
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Definitely something to chew on.
I had thought that since running PCR tests at 40-42 cycles could detect xx in an orange and that the xx is also found in other things including influenza and that the guv was paying medical systems a tiered rate for c19 diagnosed patients that those reading the tests were simply defaulting to a c19 “case” diagnosis.

One of the things I’ve known for a while is that the large majority of influenza like illnesses are not viral illness but environmental. Heating Teflon without liquid and inhaling the gas causes a flu like illness.
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Tycer wrote:
Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:29 am
Definitely something to chew on.
I had thought that since running PCR tests at 40-42 cycles could detect xx in an orange and that the xx is also found in other things including influenza and that the guv was paying medical systems a tiered rate for c19 diagnosed patients that those reading the tests were simply defaulting to a c19 “case” diagnosis.

One of the things I’ve known for a while is that the large majority of influenza like illnesses are not viral illness but environmental. Heating Teflon without liquid and inhaling the gas causes a flu like illness.
:lol: English, please...I have no idea what that means.
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Blaine wrote:
Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:09 pm

:lol: English, please...I have no idea what that means.
Different brands of PCR tests look for different snippets of Sars-CoV-2 gene sequence hence my xx

No lab has been able to culture live virus from a sample that tests positive over something like 34 cycle threshold.

Each cycle is a heating and cooling of the sample. Each cycle doubles the amount of genetic material in the sample.
Higher viral loads are detected sooner. If a person has a viral load high enough to be sick and contagious it should show up by cycle 28 and they should begin treatment ASAP. Between 29-34 keep an eye on yourself. Over 34 go to dinner and a movie.
This has been known long before 2019. The fact that the world guvs demand 40-45 CTs is all the smoking gun I need to know they are inflating the number of sick.
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Tycer wrote:
Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:45 pm
Blaine wrote:
Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:09 pm

:lol: English, please...I have no idea what that means.
Different brands of PCR tests look for different snippets of Sars-CoV-2 gene sequence hence my xx

No lab has been able to culture live virus from a sample that tests positive over something like 34 cycle threshold.

Each cycle is a heating and cooling of the sample. Each cycle doubles the amount of genetic material in the sample.
Higher viral loads are detected sooner. If a person has a viral load high enough to be sick and contagious it should show up by cycle 28 and they should begin treatment ASAP. Between 29-34 keep an eye on yourself. Over 34 go to dinner and a movie.
This has been known long before 2019. The fact that the world guvs demand 40-45 CTs is all the smoking gun I need to know they are inflating the number of sick.
Sounds like a person could carry and spread, but not be sick himself?
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Blaine wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:58 pm
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Sounds like a person could carry and spread, but not be sick himself?
Not for very long, a day maybe. The replication takes place in the upper respiratory first and fast. The associated immune response is pretty obvious.
There may be the rare person that has us suppressed immune system and doesn’t notice it or someone that doesn’t feel pain at all, but the great majority of us will absolutely know it.
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I used to sometimes have a strong immune system reaction to an oncoming bout with something awful, I got a few hours of super-well-being before the blech hit. It was consistent and got to the point that I recognized the signal and resigned myself to a miserable week ahead. I wish I had the current information back in the day.
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Tycer wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:18 pm
Blaine wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:58 pm
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Sounds like a person could carry and spread, but not be sick himself?
Not for very long, a day maybe. The replication takes place in the upper respiratory first and fast. The associated immune response is pretty obvious.
There may be the rare person that has us suppressed immune system and doesn’t notice it or someone that doesn’t feel pain at all, but the great majority of us will absolutely know it.
I think that respiratory mucosal response is mediated by IgA versus IgG and IgM, as well, which is one of the many reasons that people acquiring immunity by an injected vaccine have a less robust protection than those who have the actual virus.
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