The old water ram

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here ... politely.

Moderators: AmBraCol, Hobie

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Post Reply
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

Got the water ram out today had to see it run again. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmlmh8iO7N4
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
2ndovc
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8714
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:59 am
Location: OH, South Shore of Lake Erie

Re: The old water ram

Post by 2ndovc »

That thing is just cool!

I'd love to find one for our cabin.

jb 8)
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"


" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
User avatar
Blaine
Posting leader...
Posts: 30047
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Still Deciding

Re: The old water ram

Post by Blaine »

Pitchy wrote:
Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:04 pm
Got the water ram out today had to see it run again. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmlmh8iO7N4
Could that pump water back to the tank? Sort of perpetual motion?
The Rotten Fruit Always Hits The Ground First

Proud Life Member Of:
NRA
Second Amendment Foundation
Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms
DAV
User avatar
Grizz
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 10215
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:15 pm

Re: The old water ram

Post by Grizz »

that's so cool. knew a guy in ak who used one to water his gardens and cool his witte generator . . . thanks for reminding me
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

Blaine wrote:
Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:55 pm
Pitchy wrote:
Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:04 pm
Got the water ram out today had to see it run again. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmlmh8iO7N4
Could that pump water back to the tank? Sort of perpetual motion?
yep that`s what it does ya can see it coming out of the small hose, they will raise the water to great distances. :)
But the tank can`t keep up with the water that is splashing out for display it`s best to catch that water and pump it back to the tank.
In actual use it would be down hill from a water supply like a stream or lake ect... where the waste water doesn`t matter.
They made huge pumps that ere placed right in a river and the current would be enough to run the pump.
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Tycer
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7386
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:17 am
Location: Asheville, NC

Re: The old water ram

Post by Tycer »

Blaine wrote:
Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:55 pm
Pitchy wrote:
Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:04 pm
Got the water ram out today had to see it run again. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmlmh8iO7N4
Could that pump water back to the tank? Sort of perpetual motion?
That particular pump is probably 60% efficient so 40% of the supply is used to drive the pump.
Given sufficient head and flow that pump will probably run more than 30gpm at 10’ of head and has a max head of well over 200’. If it has a snifter valve to introduce air back into the pressure chamber it should run 24/7 for decades without maintenance.
Super nice pump. I have pump envy.
Here’s the Atlas 1” I built: https://youtube.com/shorts/v8vnElJaYxU?feature=share
Kind regards,
Tycer
----------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.saf.org - https://schoolsucksproject.com/ - http://www.guntalk.com
Bill in Oregon
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7147
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:05 am
Location: Sweetwater, TX

Re: The old water ram

Post by Bill in Oregon »

These things still just boggle my mind. 8)
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

An example of 7 pumps in a river that would supply a town with water, it`s using drive pipes from a higher elevation in the river.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MiLas_FCfQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pORYUjKoSuA
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
gamekeeper
Spambot Zapper
Posts: 15773
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:32 pm
Location: Across the pond but visible from a tall tree in Maine.

Re: The old water ram

Post by gamekeeper »

Absolutely fascinating.... 8)
I dream of a world where Chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned.
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

Added a catch tank under the pump and a electric pump to pump the waste water back to the tank now it will run as long as i want. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLa4xm0PfJ4
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
Nath
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8233
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: England

Re: The old water ram

Post by Nath »

So it's the weight of water used to push it past a one way valve when the flow shuts a flap on the large volume side, or have I got that wrong?
I need a diagram!
Psalm ch8.

Because I wish I could!
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

Nath wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:18 pm
So it's the weight of water used to push it past a one way valve when the flow shuts a flap on the large volume side, or have I got that wrong?
I need a diagram!
You got it , the valve is open allowing the water to flow freely through until it closes the valve then it closes and the water goes up into the air bulb where it compresses the air where a flapper valve closes and the air pushes the water up a pipe leaving the air bulb then the pressure drops and it starts the process over again.
Yep it`s the weight of the water in the drive pipe that runs it.
Do a search on such pumps and you`ll find a description. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
Nath
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8233
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: England

Re: The old water ram

Post by Nath »

Pitchy wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:28 pm
Nath wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:18 pm
So it's the weight of water used to push it past a one way valve when the flow shuts a flap on the large volume side, or have I got that wrong?
I need a diagram!
You got it , the valve is open allowing the water to flow freely through until it closes the valve then it closes and the water goes up into the air bulb where it compresses the air where a flapper valve closes and the air pushes the water up a pipe leaving the air bulb then the pressure drops and it starts the process over again.
Yep it`s the weight of the water in the drive pipe that runs it.
Do a search on such pumps and you`ll find a description. :)
Thank you Pitchy.

It never ceases to amaze me just how much energy is lurking all around us!

Best wishes buddy.
Psalm ch8.

Because I wish I could!
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

Sometimes i think we would be better off going backward instead of forwards with technology, yep a three foot drop or more and the longer the drive pipe the better. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Tycer
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7386
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:17 am
Location: Asheville, NC

Re: The old water ram

Post by Tycer »

E23DD983-0301-4DBE-871E-E62B6B53BAA5.jpeg
F3949904-C0D8-4D36-8936-F46D4D671DBE.jpeg
E12D7C45-A895-4CAA-B8F2-B5CE39A9BD74.jpeg
D0937ABD-C48C-41AD-A5C7-D18BBB8713D6.jpeg
Nath wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:18 pm
So it's the weight of water used to push it past a one way valve when the flow shuts a flap on the large volume side, or have I got that wrong?
I need a diagram!
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by Tycer on Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:58 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Kind regards,
Tycer
----------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.saf.org - https://schoolsucksproject.com/ - http://www.guntalk.com
Nath
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8233
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:41 pm
Location: England

Re: The old water ram

Post by Nath »

Tycer wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:43 pm
D0937ABD-C48C-41AD-A5C7-D18BBB8713D6.jpegE12D7C45-A895-4CAA-B8F2-B5CE39A9BD74.jpegE23DD983-0301-4DBE-871E-E62B6B53BAA5.jpegF3949904-C0D8-4D36-8936-F46D4D671DBE.jpeg
Nath wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:18 pm
So it's the weight of water used to push it past a one way valve when the flow shuts a flap on the large volume side, or have I got that wrong?
I need a diagram!
Thank you Tycer.
Psalm ch8.

Because I wish I could!
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

Tycer i just now seen the link to the one you built, great job works great. 8)
I built a small Rife pump years ago but i can`t find it someone must of wanted it more than me, may have to make another one. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

A video of the operation of the Rife Ram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5AXw6fWXg
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Blaine
Posting leader...
Posts: 30047
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Still Deciding

Re: The old water ram

Post by Blaine »

Pitchy wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:50 am
A video of the operation of the Rife Ram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5AXw6fWXg
I wonder if a check valve upstream from the pump would be useful?
The Rotten Fruit Always Hits The Ground First

Proud Life Member Of:
NRA
Second Amendment Foundation
Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms
DAV
Oldncrusty
Levergunner 2.0
Posts: 325
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:39 am

Re: The old water ram

Post by Oldncrusty »

Awesome stuff Pitchy. Thanks for the lessons.
piller
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 14443
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: The old water ram

Post by piller »

That is a great method of using what is readily available . Too bad we are forgetting so much of that type of technology.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
User avatar
Pitchy
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 12815
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: The old water ram

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks everyone, Blaine i`m not sure on that one. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
Post Reply