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This would have good strategic and environmental and economic benefit...

https://scitechdaily.com/a-new-concept- ... rials/amp/

(...I wonder how the FJB administration will screw it up... :| )
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The Government will find a way to mess it up.
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No doubt Xiden will.give the Technology.to.China
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They have been after a way to store power from renewables for ages because the issue with renewables is that there is no reciprocating mass to it. There is no advantage to having a wind farm capable of millions of watts if the wind stops.
What gets me is the fact that we cannot have something for nothing.
The infrastructure is massive and creates a huge carbon footprint.
I would love to see the real carbon output from making all this gear compared to the status quo.
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Nath wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:42 amThe infrastructure is massive and creates a huge carbon footprint.
I would love to see the real carbon output from making all this gear compared to the status quo.
...ahh, but it doesn't matter as long as the right people get the money, because other than some naive college kids and TDS sufferers who will go along with whatever hurts Trump (or whichever other wealthy human or corporate deodand is fashionable), none of the 'environmental advocates' are nearly as concerned with the environment as they are with enriching buddies who form 'startups' with lousy products that can't compete in the real world (think Solyndra)...
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Sounds wonderful. Now dispose of them. Aluminum is showing up in drinking water in every industrialized nation. Sulfur is available because it is a byproduct of oil refining. What’s your source as that winds down. And, you still need sunlight or wind and thet aren’t reliable.

As I stated before the only technology currently available to meet the every increasing demand for electricity is nuclear. Yes there are disposal issues. But, it is reliable.
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The used up parts from wind farms are non-recyclable. Real green.
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piller wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:44 am The used up parts from wind farms are non-recyclable. Real green.
WELL, has anyone sliced up the blades for cordwood, cordplastic, fiberglass burns hot. the bases of those monsters would make a splash on the tiny home networks, etc.

BUT, IF the new battery would do what it claims to do, I'M ALL FOR IT !
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jeepnik wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:34 am Sounds wonderful. Now dispose of them. Aluminum is showing up in drinking water in every industrialized nation. Sulfur is available because it is a byproduct of oil refining. What’s your source as that winds down. And, you still need sunlight or wind and thet aren’t reliable.

As I stated before the only technology currently available to meet the every increasing demand for electricity is nuclear. Yes there are disposal issues. But, it is reliable.
MUCH SAFER to dispose of than lithium, which is a top level hazmat emergency when the cars are on fire.
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I was looking up Thorium nuclear reactors and came across this:

Molten Salt Reactors
Update: See our full page on Molten Salt Reactors for more info.

One especially cool possibility suitable for the slow-neutron breeding capability of the Th-U fuel cycle is the molten salt reactor (MSR), or as one particular MSR is commonly known on the internet, the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors (LFTR). In these, fuel is not cast into pellets, but is rather dissolved in a vat of liquid salt. The chain reaction heats the salt, which naturally convects through a heat exchanger to bring the heat out to a turbine and make electricity. Online chemical processing removes fission product neutron poisons and allows online refueling (eliminating the need to shut down for fuel management, etc.). None of these reactors operate today, but Oak Ridge had a test reactor of this type in the 1960s called the Molten Salt Reactor Experiment [wikipedia] (MSRE). The MSRE successfully proved that the concept has merit and can be operated for extended amounts of time. It competed with the liquid metal cooled fast breeder reactors (LMFBRs) for federal funding and lost out. Alvin Weinberg discusses the history of this project in much detail in his autobiography, The First Nuclear Era [amazon.com], and there is more info available all over the internet. These reactors could be extremely safe, proliferation resistant, resource efficient, environmentally superior (to traditional nukes, as well as to fossil fuel obviously), and maybe even cheap. Exotic, but successfully tested. Who’s going to start the startup on these? (Just kidding, there are already like 4 startups working on them, and China is developing them as well).

https://whatisnuclear.com/thorium.html

Molten Salt Reactors
By Nick Touran, Ph.D.
Molten salt reactor schematic from GenIV
Molten Salt Reactors (MSRs) are nuclear reactors that use a fluid fuel in the form of very hot fluoride or chloride salt rather than the solid fuel used in most reactors. Since the fuel salt is liquid, it can be both the fuel (producing the heat) and the coolant (transporting the heat to the power plant). There are many different types of MSRs, including the Molten Salt Breeder Reactor (also know commercially as the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor, or LFTR). This MSR has Thorium and Uranium dissolved in a fluoride salt and can get planet-scale amounts of energy out of our natural resources of Thorium minerals, much like a fast breeder can get large amounts of energy out of our Uranium minerals. There are also fast breeder fluoride MSRs that don’t use Th at all. And there are chloride salt based fast MSRs that are usually studied as nuclear waste burners due to their extraordinary amount of very fast neutrons.

https://whatisnuclear.com/msr.html

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piller wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:11 am The Government will find a way to mess it up.
Don't they always? :roll:
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